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Cardiovorax
Jun 5, 2011

I mean, if you're a successful actress and you go out of the house in a skirt and without underwear, knowing that paparazzi are just waiting for opportunities like this and that it has happened many times before, then there's really nobody you can blame for it but yourself.
Well, I guess if I had to choose, I guess I'd trust a professor of Swedish food history over a random twitter post, but fair enough.

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MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

quote:

"It's a sort of fake news definitely. You make something up for a political or a commercial purpose, and you spread the news without doing proper research," he said, according to The Swedish Local.

"It's more likely, considering the linguistic source, that meatballs are French or Italian.

"Meatballs is historically a very expensive dish, because you have to have fresh meat. We are talking about the top levels of society."

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/fake-news-historian-denies-swedish-meatballs-originated-in-turkey

Solid argument. This. Yep.

Good work PrOfEsSoR

Cardiovorax posted:

Well, I guess if I had to choose, I guess I'd trust a professor of Swedish food history over a random twitter post, but fair enough.

helg snart

Ghostlight
Sep 25, 2009

maybe for one second you can pause; try to step into another person's perspective, and understand that a watermelon is cursing me



the random twitter post being on the official account of the swedish government as a result of a (different) university professor's research into the contemporary written accounts of king charles xii's time in the ottoman empire.

who can say what the truth is

Ghostlight posted:

please keep politics out of meatballs

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Cardiovorax posted:

As dumb as those people are, the suggestion that Scandinavians weren't able to come up with an idea like "make the meat paste into round blobs" independently is weirdly insulting.

Like, I'm pretty sure every culture has someone who invented that spontaneously, it's just that basic.

This post is extra funny now after reading this part of the historians statement.

quote:

We are talking about the top levels of society.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Cardiovorax posted:

As dumb as those people are, the suggestion that Scandinavians weren't able to come up with an idea like "make the meat paste into round blobs" independently is weirdly insulting.

Like, I'm pretty sure every culture has someone who invented that spontaneously, it's just that basic.

And yet people think a crusty loving Earl invented the sandwich

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

Cardiovorax posted:

As dumb as those people are, the suggestion that Scandinavians weren't able to come up with an idea like "make the meat paste into round blobs" independently is weirdly insulting.

Like, I'm pretty sure every culture has someone who invented that spontaneously, it's just that basic.

It's true!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bVLkxSSvegc

TehRedWheelbarrow
Mar 16, 2011



Fan of Britches

Cup Runneth Over
Aug 8, 2009

She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate



So... It was "debunked" by saying that they're actually from a different European country. Ergo, still not Swedish.

Jesus.

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Cythereal posted:

Back when 40k was satire, they were a football hooligans joke.

Now there's a book series out there about a super-Ork empire that once nearly conquered the Imperium and farmed humans for food with loving descriptions of human breeding facilities filled with women who had their limbs chopped off, tongue cut out, eyes gouged out, and they're all pregnant.


That was exactly the book series that made me give up on 40k as a setting. The real life fascists who don't get that they're the joke are now running the place.

Oh wow that's some super bad taste. Didn't know that was in 40k lore before.

MariusLecter
Sep 5, 2009

NI MUERTE NI MIEDO

Cup Runneth Over posted:

So... It was "debunked" by saying that they're actually from a different European country. Ergo, still not Swedish.

Jesus.

Unlike European countries Turkey is known to be devoid of fresh meat and society.

Alternately,

You have to have a high IQ to understand rick and morty meatballs.

marathon Stairmaster sesh
Apr 28, 2009

ALL HAIL CEO NUGGET
1988-PRESENT

Okay which one of you convinced Nexus and Lovers Lab to create Hot Coffie 2.0 for RDR2?

Arc Hammer
Mar 4, 2013

Got any deathsticks?

The Titanic posted:

Oh wow that's some super bad taste. Didn't know that was in 40k lore before.

The War of the Beast is a bad series and has a lot wrong with it beyond ruining the Orks. Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists working together should not be a thing ever.

Like I said earlier, 8th edition has made a lot of improvements in that regard. There's still the excessive grimdark but they've been cutting it with some good humour. Ork Margaret Thatcher is back and got caught in a time travel adventure so he built a super Waaagh in the past to meet up with his modern day Boyz and then went on an adventure to beat the poo poo out of the Tyranids.

Brainamp
Sep 4, 2011

More Zen than Zenyatta

Please shut up about warhams

marathon Stairmaster sesh posted:

Okay which one of you convinced Nexus and Lovers Lab to create Hot Coffie 2.0 for RDR2?

Porn aside, Rockstar's really been against the mod scene for a while for some reason.

Catfishenfuego
Oct 21, 2008

Moist With Indignation
My Swedish ex tried to get me into 'Swedish kebab pizza' which is just the ingredients for a cheap kebabon a cheap bad pizza and I had to break the news to her that every country with lovely takeaway pizza/kebab places had that pizza, it's just no one buys it because it's bad.

Magmarashi
May 20, 2009





Brainamp posted:

Please shut up about warhams


Porn aside, Rockstar's really been against the mod scene for a while for some reason.

What a bunch of cops for a company that...well, loving makes GTA

BaldDwarfOnPCP
Jun 26, 2019

by Pragmatica

Magmarashi posted:

What a bunch of cops for a company that...well, loving makes GTA

A game that punishes you with death when you accidentally steal another player’s car. Where lots of cop and fed trucks are unstealable for no explainable reason. Where whales teleport in huge yachts with helicopter decks and watercraft to just chill off the coast while the average player hits the streets only to be immediately wasted by a flying assault vehicle or ASM. Where idiot hackers rain money from the sky and you can get your account locked for picking it up.

In conclusion Rock* is a fair and balanced company

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



Catfishenfuego posted:

My Swedish ex tried to get me into 'Swedish kebab pizza' which is just the ingredients for a cheap kebabon a cheap bad pizza and I had to break the news to her that every country with lovely takeaway pizza/kebab places had that pizza, it's just no one buys it because it's bad.

we have had kebab takeaway for abt 20 years, and pizza for 50-60, where I live, and haven't even bothered to combine the two because we know better-

so you can tell her that kansans are too smart to go for that. kansans!

anyway, this is from a lord of the rings minecraft mod for some reason:
https://lotrminecraftmod.fandom.com/wiki/Kebab_Stand

IShallRiseAgain
Sep 12, 2008

Well ain't that precious?

Brainamp posted:

Please shut up about warhams


Porn aside, Rockstar's really been against the mod scene for a while for some reason.

Modders will make content for free that Rockstar can charge money for, so of course they don't want people modding stuff.

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Catfishenfuego posted:

My Swedish ex tried to get me into 'Swedish kebab pizza'

Just be thankful it wasn't banana pizza.

Slowflake
Aug 18, 2010

Peanut Butler posted:

we have had kebab takeaway for abt 20 years, and pizza for 50-60, where I live, and haven't even bothered to combine the two because we know better-

so you can tell her that kansans are too smart to go for that. kansans!

anyway, this is from a lord of the rings minecraft mod for some reason:
https://lotrminecraftmod.fandom.com/wiki/Kebab_Stand


From the page:

The wiki posted:

The kebab model was made by MG, and remains possibly his most valuable only contribution to the mod, besides the music, which is yet to appear.

To be fair I wanna open a kebab shop in Minecraft now, so it's got that going for it

Peanut Butler
Jul 25, 2003



jonsicoli posted:

To be fair I wanna open a kebab shop in Minecraft now, so it's got that going for it

it's rad as all hell and all I can think about are all the powerful force-of-nature angel-wizards lining up to chomp down on shawarma

Max Wilco
Jan 23, 2012

I'm just trying to go through life without looking stupid.

It's not working out too well...

Arcsquad12 posted:

Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists working together should not be a thing ever.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WBt1vqff7dE

Midnight Voyager
Jul 2, 2008

Lipstick Apathy

Peanut Butler posted:

it's rad as all hell and all I can think about are all the powerful force-of-nature angel-wizards lining up to chomp down on shawarma

You know Gandalf would get high as hell on Hobbit weed and down like twenty of them.

Rigged Death Trap
Feb 13, 2012

BEEP BEEP BEEP BEEP

Midnight Voyager posted:

You know Gandalf would get high as hell on Hobbit weed and down like twenty of them.

I am couchlocked my friends, and the time of the kebab shops closing grows ever closer. Do not tarry! Fly you fools!

RareAcumen
Dec 28, 2012




https://twitter.com/pat7286/status/1230643677686530050

fool of sound
Oct 10, 2012

Manuel Calavera posted:

Well you see they're from The Elemental Plane of Cops, as summoned by Coppamancers. It's totally inaccurate lore.

Copromancers, actually :itwaspoo:

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Arcsquad12 posted:

The War of the Beast is a bad series and has a lot wrong with it beyond ruining the Orks. Iron Warriors and Imperial Fists working together should not be a thing ever.

Like I said earlier, 8th edition has made a lot of improvements in that regard. There's still the excessive grimdark but they've been cutting it with some good humour. Ork Margaret Thatcher is back and got caught in a time travel adventure so he built a super Waaagh in the past to meet up with his modern day Boyz and then went on an adventure to beat the poo poo out of the Tyranids.

I've always liked the nutty grimdark atmosphere and the tropes and especially how fun Orks were just as a kind of silly and crazy take on the usual Tolkien fare of it all.

But I don't want it to dive into some weird fetish fantasy of creepiness. I'm not all over it though so it may have been that way for a while but it wasn't what I thought it was. Oh well. :)

The Titanic
Sep 15, 2016

Unsinkable

Brainamp posted:

Please shut up about warhams


Porn aside, Rockstar's really been against the mod scene for a while for some reason.

My opinion is they realize modding actually means money.

It's why Bethesda has suddenly gone to these lengths to create these workshops to buy mods. Basically instead of selling one game you can sell a game and unlimited little bits and pieces after it.

I'd be surprised if we see games as modding friendly as some of the Bethesda games without needing to do some heavy duty stuff just because people love to buy DLC.

A good example is like Fortnight and all the different models and stuff they have made mad money from.

Cool Dad
Jun 15, 2007

It is always Friday night, motherfuckers

I honestly have trouble enjoying Warhammer because of the Space Marines. A bunch of religious fascists running the universe hits too close to home.

Mendrian
Jan 6, 2013

Mod shops are dumb.

Modding used to be a gateway hobby to learning how to code. If companies are going to profit off of mods then modders should get paid but I have a hard time envisioning a world of monetized mods that isn't completely dystopian.

That's how the youtube world got where it is. For every hbomber guy there's like 3000 dudes working a lovely gimmick and it's unbearable.

Ariong
Jun 25, 2012

Get bashed, platonist!

Paid mods are never going to happen. It's a completely futile idea borne of game companies' desire to have their cake and eat it too. They want people to constantly produce extra content for their game for free, but they also want people to pay them money for it. You're right that they ought to pay modders if they're going to make money off of it, but at that point it's not modding so much as contracting people to make DLC.

EDIT: And by "happen" I mean be implemented successfully.

LashLightning
Feb 20, 2010

You know you didn't have to go post that, right?
But it's fine, I guess...

You just keep being you!

The Titanic posted:

I've always liked the nutty grimdark atmosphere and the tropes and especially how fun Orks were just as a kind of silly and crazy take on the usual Tolkien fare of it all.

But I don't want it to dive into some weird fetish fantasy of creepiness. I'm not all over it though so it may have been that way for a while but it wasn't what I thought it was. Oh well. :)

Not only is it weird fetish creepiness, it's entirely unneeded. If there's a lot of Orks about, it means there's also a lot of mushrooms, squigs, and grots about, everything that a growing Ork needs!

Maybe them making their own ecosystem is leaning on the Tyranids' territory, but, eh, why fix something that's not broken?

Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Every fantasy setting is always on the verge of falling into full-on fetish creepiness, cause nerds are involved. Like with corruption in politics, the only solution is eternal vigilance.

Leal
Oct 2, 2009

Ariong posted:

Paid mods are never going to happen. It's a completely futile idea borne of game companies' desire to have their cake and eat it too. They want people to constantly produce extra content for their game for free, but they also want people to pay them money for it. You're right that they ought to pay modders if they're going to make money off of it, but at that point it's not modding so much as contracting people to make DLC.

EDIT: And by "happen" I mean be implemented successfully.

Patreon makes it possible. Ask the guy who made the groundwork for the Sims 4 sex mod (that is just the groundwork, not any of the models or animations). Raking in at least 6.2k a month. I want to say 13k cause thats what I saw last time but like everyone else on that platform they're hiding how much they make now.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

Leal posted:

Patreon makes it possible. Ask the guy who made the groundwork for the Sims 4 sex mod (that is just the groundwork, not any of the models or animations). Raking in at least 6.2k a month. I want to say 13k cause thats what I saw last time but like everyone else on that platform they're hiding how much they make now.

That's not quite the same thing

flatluigi
Apr 23, 2008

here come the planes
yeah one is modders getting paid for their time and effort and the other, uh

Neddy Seagoon
Oct 12, 2012

"Hi Everybody!"

flatluigi posted:

yeah one is modders getting paid for their time and effort and the other, uh

Is wholly reliant on the goodwill and charity of a multi-billion corporation whose bottom line is everything to them.

Improbable Lobster
Jan 6, 2012

"From each according to his ability" said Ares. It sounded like a quotation.
Buglord

flatluigi posted:

yeah one is modders getting paid for their time and effort and the other, uh

A corporation taking a cut of that money for no reason

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Releasing for free and taking donations is different because it creates a living modding environment, which is very important because it's that community effort (and often, the interactions between releases) that really makes modding work. It's the collaborative effects that make it as good as it is. If you nickel and dime everyone for each little bit that completely changes the environment, there is no common ground because there is no longer a community, there's just lots of people all with their own little hoards of commodities. You can't talk to other people about mods cos every one costs money, it's profoundly atomizing compared to the option where everyone can just go hog wild and install all sorts of stuff together.

That environment attracts people, who then go on to, potentially, fund the mod makers. And yeah you might get more freeloaders, but the larger number of people total might still result in more money to the modders, and I would suggest that the cooperative environment produces far more utility in terms of people actually enjoying the loving game.

Of course the developers probably don't give a poo poo because they'd rather just extract more money from the players and sacrificing long term quality for short term cash income is exactly the kind of move a lot of companies go for because ultimately the people in charge won't suffer if the property or the studio gets hosed up by it.

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Skippy McPants
Mar 19, 2009

Corporations also consistently fail to grasp just how much money a healthy modding community earns them by proxy. Skyrim and The Sims would not be the multi-year sales juggernauts they are without their vibrant modding scenes.

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