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large_gourd posted:oh, right. yeah i mean i agree the 'emulation is amoral' opinion is stupid, but you said there's no way to play it legally and i just thought surely you could just get the old console and a cartridge which i guess is true. There are games that were only available on digital shops which have been taken down and are no longer available anywhere.
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One thing I do think plays a factor here is how absurdly strict Japan's IP laws are. Like, you can get arrested for selling an action figure you customised. If that's the norm where you're from, I can see how the idea of emulation might be grouped in with piracy, even it's a very different situation.
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MassRafTer posted:There are games that were only available on digital shops which have been taken down and are no longer available anywhere. Yep, also online only games that have had servers taken down. The extent to which certain publishers care about that stuff differs but some will go hard to shut down unofficial servers even for games they don't sell anymore (like NCSoft with City of Heroes).
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ah okay fair enough i hadn't thought about those kind of cases. but i don't think emulating games where nobody who matters (ie, suits don't count) are actually going to benefit from your money is a bad thing, anyway. i think that's 100% okay and it's even a good thing for maintaining the existence of these things whether for documentation purposes or for entertainment. i just thought there must be a legal way to play pretty much everything if that's what you feel you need to do, no matter how obscure, but i suppose that isn't always the case with digital only or online games. Gaz-L posted:One thing I do think plays a factor here is how absurdly strict Japan's IP laws are. Like, you can get arrested for selling an action figure you customised. If that's the norm where you're from, I can see how the idea of emulation might be grouped in with piracy, even it's a very different situation. eh, doesn't excuse individual stupidity. takes like 30 seconds to complete the thought process.
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large_gourd posted:ah okay fair enough i hadn't thought about those kind of cases. but i don't think emulating games where nobody who matters (ie, suits don't count) are actually going to benefit from your money is a bad thing, anyway. i think that's 100% okay and it's even a good thing for maintaining the existence of these things whether for documentation purposes or for entertainment. To take it even further there are games from the Nintendo Satellaview that don't even exist anymore. At best a couple have been partially restored. It's similar to wrestling in a way because we only have access to a lot of old TV (Memphis especially) because fans taped so much of it.
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MassRafTer posted:To take it even further there are games from the Nintendo Satellaview that don't even exist anymore. At best a couple have been partially restored. It's similar to wrestling in a way because we only have access to a lot of old TV (Memphis especially) because fans taped so much of it. Also there were games distributed via rewritable disks and carts for the Game Boy and Famicom Disk System that we only have dumps of because people found those carts and dumped whatever was on them, those were games designed to be ephemeral and disposable. Then there's all the stuff stored on magnetic media like floppy disks or cassettes that is increasingly failing and would be lost forever without dumps and emulation. Then there's also the unreleased prototype games that've been found in dumpsters and in defunct company archives people have found like the NES port of Sim City.
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MassRafTer posted:He left when his contract was up with an offer to re-sign on the table. for some reason i totally thought they released him immediately after survivor series 2011
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Asuka has far too much to lose and absolutely nothing to gain by supporting piracy. At least, that's my read on the subject. It's better for her to take a hardline stance against it, rather than risk her good relationships with every major player in the video game industry.
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PepsimanVsJoe posted:Asuka has far too much to lose and absolutely nothing to gain by supporting piracy. At least, that's my read on the subject. Say nothing?
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In terms of major publishers giving a poo poo about emulation, it's pretty much only Nintendo that actively cares. Even professional games media people talk about emulation as an accepted part of gaming these days.
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PepsimanVsJoe posted:Asuka has far too much to lose and absolutely nothing to gain by wearing a Nazi costume Didn't stop her though!
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Chris James 2 posted:Didn't stop her though! What? *googles Asuka Nazi uniform* Oh... Freaking pro-wrestlers. Sometimes I don't know why I even bother.
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PepsimanVsJoe posted:What? *googles Asuka Nazi uniform* Japan Loves Nazi cosplay.
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in more ways than one
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I'm sorry. I wasn't thinking. drat. Never thought I would be the one to say the original person's joke over again
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Gaz-L posted:One thing I do think plays a factor here is how absurdly strict Japan's IP laws are. Like, you can get arrested for selling an action figure you customised. If that's the norm where you're from, I can see how the idea of emulation might be grouped in with piracy, even it's a very different situation. Japan IP law as a whole is weird as for a time it was super lax and companies themselves sold their IP in weird deals sometimes where the original creator ended up losing control of the property outside of Japan (hi Macross) and they corrected by moving super hard in the other direction. You do still have events like Comiket and unlicensed Garage Kits that were around from before the laws got more strict and companies let them exists though. Anyway as for emulation, I think you should support the original creator if you can buy the game but if you can't emulate away. And if you download/emulate cause you can't afford it than that's okay too
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Another thing to consider is that prices and availability of old games are much more reasonable in Japan, which would make the opinion seem at least somewhat less insane for a Japanese person to have. Still a dumb stance as far as I'm concerned.
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Video game emulation is cool, and good! Go mod your NES/SNES Classics or your old 3DS.
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Being that she seems more interested in streaming than she does wrestling now that WWE has beaten the love of wrestling out of her I'm not surprised she's already taking a video game companies should support me as a streamer stance
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stealing from nintendo is fine because they keep reselling the same software 1,000 times on various different formats and will keep doing it, but also never offering more than about 15% of the range either. But I would never do it. the stealing.
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Asuka’s opinions on emulation are irrelevant now that I found out you can hack mame into a TV.
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Those Nazi Asuka pics are hot. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Hot trash
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coconono posted:Asuka’s opinions on emulation are irrelevant now that I found out you can hack mame into a TV. say what
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Prokhor Zakharov posted:say what There’s smart TVs running full boat Android OS.
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Goddammit, Darby (in a good way) https://twitter.com/DarbyAllin/status/1231333648831569921
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Dream's panties gloves are amazing. I hope he wins the NXT title from Cole ASAP. I even love his horrific new gear that looks like Andy's toy room wall paper
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Natch.
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Yukaichiban posted:Those Nazi Asuka pics are hot. you really keep swinging for the fences lol
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https://twitter.com/davemeltzerWON/status/1231340517721423872?s=20
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lol Social media was one of the worst inventions of all time
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Gaz-L posted:One thing I do think plays a factor here is how absurdly strict Japan's IP laws are. Like, you can get arrested for selling an action figure you customised. If that's the norm where you're from, I can see how the idea of emulation might be grouped in with piracy, even it's a very different situation. A lot of Japanese people won’t even charge their phone at work because that’s stealing electricity.
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Eat My Fuc posted:Dream's panties gloves are amazing. I hope he wins the NXT title from Cole ASAP. I even love his horrific new gear that looks like Andy's toy room wall paper They're awful, including because they don't look like converted panties they're clearly just normal lace gloves. I doubt that part of the story will make it to TV but it would make me laugh in how lazy it is addition to horrible. https://twitter.com/FO_VVerhei/status/1231296603715031040 Vinny meanwhile here with the 90s art blood bowl reference
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can't wait for the dream of velveteen to pull off the panty gloves and make the bad guy sniff his fingers
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yea ok posted:you really keep swinging for the fences lol I mean all I got do is ignore the nazi bit, rest is hot. Don't feel like I've swung for the fences any other time on here, although my comment after someone said Sanada may have hiromued himself didn't land well. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Yukaichiban posted:I mean all I got do is forkboy84 posted:Say nothing? 
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