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Okay how long has Disney been doing this live action remake poo poo because I've only heard of like three of these
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RandomFerret posted:Okay how long has Disney been doing this live action remake poo poo because I've only heard of like three of these Forever Race to Witch Mountain exists
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Feb 23, 2020 15:07
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RandomFerret posted:Okay how long has Disney been doing this live action remake poo poo because I've only heard of like three of these Since the 90s https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_live-action_remakes_of_animated_films They've also remade a lot of their old live action films like The Shaggy Dog or That Darn Cat or The Computer Wore Tennis Shoes. They've remade Freaky Friday three times: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Disney_film_remakes They've also made a huge number of direct-to-DVD animated sequels of their older animated movies and shows: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Disney_feature-length_home_entertainment_releases They also used to re-release their classic films to cinemas all the time. They've very very carefully and methodically experimented in the optimal techniques for remaking their classic IPs in terms of generating the greatest financial gain over many decades and have pretty much perfected their techniques with these recent billion-dollar remakes. They've been incredibly patient and calculating, it's quite monstrous. Snowglobe of Doom has a new favorite as of 15:31 on Feb 23, 2020 |
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Feb 23, 2020 15:19
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It's even more amazing when you realize that they were in danger of being bought out and split up only forty years ago.
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Feb 23, 2020 15:55
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Once upon a time a Don Bluth film was released the same day as a Disney film and the Bluth film was #1 for the weekend.
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Feb 23, 2020 16:08
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Since the 90s To save a click, it should be noted that the current wave that we're in of plumbing the, like, A-list Animated Disney Canon for remakes starts with The Jungle Book in 2016 (or possibly Maleficent in 2014 if you count it). There's some attempts before then that are basically just one-and-done experiments, but that's the point when they realize 'oh drat, this can work for us' and start going full-scale on it using the same framework. Since then, there's been either five or eight so far, depending on if you count 'same universe, not the same story'. Soon to be plus one either way with the Mulan remake coming in March. Cleretic has a new favorite as of 16:14 on Feb 23, 2020 |
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Feb 23, 2020 16:10
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Inzombiac posted:I tried to watch the live action Aladdin movie and it solidified something for me: You've clearly not seen the trailers for Mulan. Pretty serious departure from the original, and not in a way that looks like an improvement. They look like instead they're trying to merge Hidden Dragon with Mulan plus adding a big chunk of magic that wasnt necessary.
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Feb 23, 2020 16:21
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Cleretic posted:To save a click, it should be noted that the current wave that we're in of plumbing the, like, A-list Animated Disney Canon for remakes starts with The Jungle Book in 2016 (or possibly Maleficent in 2014 if you count it). There's some attempts before then that are basically just one-and-done experiments, but that's the point when they realize 'oh drat, this can work for us' and start going full-scale on it using the same framework. Since then, there's been either five or eight so far, depending on if you count 'same universe, not the same story'. Soon to be plus one either way with the Mulan remake coming in March. Yeah once they really got the remake train going they’ve been releasing them at the same pace as MCU movies, 2-3 per year.
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Feb 23, 2020 16:33
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Cleretic posted:To save a click, it should be noted that the current wave that we're in of plumbing the, like, A-list Animated Disney Canon for remakes starts with The Jungle Book in 2016 (or possibly Maleficent in 2014 if you count it). There's some attempts before then that are basically just one-and-done experiments Their 2010 live action Alice in Wonderland movie made over a billion dollars and had a big budget sequel
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Feb 23, 2020 16:52
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Their 2010 live action Alice in Wonderland movie made over a billion dollars and had a big budget sequel Yes, but that's a bit like saying the Sam Raimi Spider-Man movies were part of the MCU. It was definitely a success for them, and might've seeded what came later, but it was before they really got a good repeatable formula going.
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Feb 23, 2020 17:34
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Snowglobe of Doom posted:Their 2010 live action Alice in Wonderland movie made over a billion dollars and had a big budget sequel Holy poo poo, I forgot those existed because I only made it like 30 minutes into the first one before shutting it off. Some 2004-era billionaire philanthropist should have given Tim Burton a huge annual stipend to do nothing again, ever.
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Feb 23, 2020 17:38
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RandomFerret posted:Okay how long has Disney been doing this live action remake poo poo because I've only heard of like three of these I thought it started with Jungle Book but I guess not. Wasn't aware of all those others but then again I'm not a huge Disney person. I forgot about all those Cinderalla, Snow White and Sleeping Beauty things. With Disney currently owning basically everything I expect that, moving forward, they'll remake every god damned thing they can so long as it makes money. Lion King remake got slaughtered critically but still made a gently caress ton of money so look forward to live action Monsters Inc, Nemo, Frozen, Zootopia within your lifetime a least. I wouldn't be surprised to see a live action Incredibles or Toy Story, which totally miss the point of the originals. A Nemo live action remake might be cool, tbh, but the point to doing these artistically at least is "how can we add something fresh that wasn't in the animated version?" and I can't think of many Disney Cartoon films where that's applicable. But The Mouse is going to keep making these things for as long as they make millions of dollars and I fully expect them to milk the idea for all it's worth. Sorry I can't think of any subtle movie moments to contribute.
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Feb 23, 2020 17:59
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Toy story is already a remake of Jim Henson’s The Christmas Toy, but I could see them doing another puppet style version of it
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Feb 23, 2020 18:05
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I think the next cow that Disney will milk dry in regards to their animated library is CGI remakes of their hand drawn animated movies.
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Feb 23, 2020 18:12
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Live action Toy Story where the toys are all actors in practical costumes like we see at Disney World, and the humans are giant CGI Kaiju beasts
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Feb 23, 2020 20:15
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beanieson posted:Live action Toy Story where the toys are all actors in practical costumes like we see at Disney World, and the humans are giant CGI Kaiju beasts https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z3PtI-ljZAU
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Feb 23, 2020 20:29
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beanieson posted:Live action Toy Story where the toys are all actors in practical costumes like we see at Disney World, and the humans are giant CGI Kaiju beasts This sounds like a waking nightmare and I have never wanted to see a movie so bad in my life.
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Feb 23, 2020 20:53
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Ugly In The Morning posted:This sounds like a waking nightmare and I have never wanted to see a movie so bad in my life. Waking nightmare? Mate that was Johnson and friends 
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Feb 23, 2020 21:37
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Wait until all of you realize that these are all just part of the SSU (Small Soldiers Universe).
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Feb 23, 2020 22:22
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torgeaux posted:You've clearly not seen the trailers for Mulan. Pretty serious departure from the original, and not in a way that looks like an improvement. They look like instead they're trying to merge Hidden Dragon with Mulan plus adding a big chunk of magic that wasnt necessary. It looks like it's got some wushu elements, like the bandits leaping from their horses and running up the castle wall. I'm down for some old school, wire-fu on a Disney budget.
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Feb 23, 2020 22:39
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Pope Corky the IX posted:It's even more amazing when you realize that they were in danger of being bought out and split up only forty years ago. And a little over thirty years ago (before The Little Mermaid) they were looking at their back catalogue and the massive domestic uptake of VHS and thinking "meh we can just slow roll out our library on VHS and do fine, we don't need to be making original movies anymore". Then The Little Mermaid went gangbusters and they were suddenly a much more viable concern as a studio. mllaneza posted:It looks like it's got some wushu elements, like the bandits leaping from their horses and running up the castle wall. I'm down for some old school, wire-fu on a Disney budget. Do you mean Wuxia? Wushu is the martial art.
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Feb 23, 2020 23:40
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SiKboy posted:From what I remember the Colin Farrel Total Recall reboot was different enough that if felt more like a new attempt to adapt the book than a remake of the verhoeven film. Still wasnt particularly good though. or it's just a genuinely generic sci fi action flick, y'know But also it doesn't have the Wacky Black Cabbie. That's a bit of the 90s one that hasn't aged well.
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Feb 24, 2020 08:48
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The 90s movie has scenes that don't feature Quaid, it can't possible be false memories.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:31
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My Lovely Horse posted:I thought it was a bit better than it's generally given credit for, because the second half is such a collection of loosely connected action movie cliches, from the general structure down to individual shots like Colin Farrell stealthily taking down henchmen that you've seen a hundred times before - and the scene where he returns to his old apartment is straight lifted from Bourne Identity - , that it feels like it very deliberately wants to point out that this is still exactly the kind of fake memory he paid for, just like in the 90's movie they summarize what the plot's going to be right at the start.   (Unless this is some  that's going on.)Total Recall 2012 felt so video game-y that I'm starting to think it was done on purpose to make the audience suspect this isn't real at all. Example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ayYqrBIkHN0 The wide shots during the rooftop chase look straight out of a side-scrolling platform game like Crash Bandicoot.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:33
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Android Apocalypse posted:
He means the one on Mars that betrays him and he kills with a giant drill.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:36
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Aphrodite posted:The 90s movie has scenes that don't feature Quaid, it can't possible be false memories. Cutscenes don't always have the main character in them.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:37
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Memories always do.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:43
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rydiafan posted:He means the one on Mars that betrays him and he kills with a giant drill. Holy poo poo I forgot about Benny. In my defense I think of him as mutant first, black guy second, as I am enlightened & don't see race.  Shame about his demise though; he had 4 kids to feed.
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Feb 24, 2020 14:58
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Android Apocalypse posted:
A detail I really enjoy is that this murderous mutant on Mars wouldn't have children out of wedlock. I guess the Catholic church got there early.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:01
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Benny the mutant cabby is a big believer in the traditional family unit.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:21
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A small thing that I'm enjoying in The Raven, the John Cusack movie from years ago that everyone forgot about, is that Poe in the film only shits on professional writers who poo poo on him, or non-writers. Amateur writers he's actually kind of nice to. A girl in a class or some kind of performance he's doing (he recites the Raven then invites his audience to tell a poem of their own) reads out a very simple poem about a butterfly and bee and gets embarrassed when he stops her, thinking it's because she's poo poo, but he actually says a lot of positive things, spinning out a very basic rhyme where it's obvious she just got stuck on the word into a symbolic gesture about nature versus modern society and it makes her feel better about herself.  I like that he's nice to people that don't actively hate him.Just getting around to the movie because I forgot it existed and was curious about it.
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Feb 24, 2020 15:23
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Inzombiac posted:There's no point in a remake that says nothing new. The live action Disney movies are basically shot-for-shot and are worse for it. Plus they don't have the charm of animated movies because that would be nearly impossible. They're all trainwrecks and I suspect Mulan will be the same except to even better in the Chinese market. I have been apathetic to hostile to Disney live action and I am absolutely stoked for Mulan. The magic subplot is...odd, but she'll still bring honor to Disney.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:18
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Pissed Ape Sexist posted:Holy poo poo, I forgot those existed because I only made it like 30 minutes into the first one before shutting it off. Some 2004-era billionaire philanthropist should have given Tim Burton a huge annual stipend to do nothing again, ever. Man, Tim Burton. What a perfect example of wasted talent, or something. Planet of the Apes happened and everything he did since is pretty awful. Beetlejuice is a seriously great, weird, amazing movie. More of those please and no more loving sinister mall goth Depp stuff.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:26
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Tall Tale Teller posted:Man, Tim Burton. What a perfect example of wasted talent, or something. He started doing straight adaptations of other things. Some adaptations worked, like Sleepy Hollow, which was right before PotA and it's amazing. I'd argue that Sweeney Todd is good, but it has all the trappings of "bad" Tim Burton in it. Mars Attacks was before, but it didn't really have enough source material to be considered an adaptation in my mind, and that's still a fun movie.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:35
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God I hate Tim Burton, at least Tim Burton after having him and his pet cast shoved down our throats for years. The Burton Batmans (Batmen?) were good. Beetlejuice was great. I even enjoyed Sweeney Todd when it came out and being a huge musical theatre nerd was kind of A Thing in the circles I was in. But I'm so goddamn tired of his aesthetic and I'm tired of Johnny Depp playing one of two characters in everything opposite Helena Bonham Carter's one.
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TheKennedys posted:God I hate Tim Burton, at least Tim Burton after having him and his pet cast shoved down our throats for years. The Burton Batmans (Batmen?) were good. Beetlejuice was great. I even enjoyed Sweeney Todd when it came out and being a huge musical theatre nerd was kind of A Thing in the circles I was in. But I'm so goddamn tired of his aesthetic and I'm tired of Johnny Depp playing one of two characters in everything opposite Helena Bonham Carter's one. good - Pee-wee's Big Adventure amazing - Beetlejuice good - Batman amazing - Edward Scissorhands very good - Batman Returns great - Ed Wood eh, I love it - Mars Attacks! just under amazing - Sleepy Hollow terrible, but does have great makeup - Planet of the Apes overrated honestly, but decent - Big Fish unneeded, but the oompa-loompa songs are good - Charlie and the Chocolate Factory eh, soulless - Corpse Bride I like it, but it feels soulless again - Sweeney Todd: The Demon Barber of Fleet Street nope - Alice in Wonderland okay, but soulless - Dark Shadows eh - Frankenweenie never saw or cared - Big Eyes never saw or cared - Miss Peregrine's Home for Peculiar Children never saw or cared - Dumbo
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Feb 24, 2020 16:41
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The only bad thing about Mars Attacks is that it didn't do well enough to justify the sequel, Dinosaurs Attack
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Feb 24, 2020 16:45
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Burton did Dumbo? He must have absolutely hated himself the whole time. I love it.
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Feb 24, 2020 16:51
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Tall Tale Teller posted:Man, Tim Burton. What a perfect example of wasted talent, or something. I'll stan for Big Fish. Kinda saccharine but whatever.
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Krispy Wafer posted:I have been apathetic to hostile to Disney live action and I am absolutely stoked for Mulan. The magic subplot is...odd, but she'll still bring honor to Disney. I've seen this mentioned twice, but wasn't there a dragon in the original animated version? I mean, is it really a big leap to go from "Dragon" to "Magic"?
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