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HD DAD posted:I somewhat shamefully admit I’m a poster over on TrekBBS as well, and it’s interesting how different the demographics are between there and SA, and how they’re responding to Picard. I've been a mod there since 2002 and an administrator since 2010. 
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Feb 24, 2020 22:50
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Tighclops posted:oh also the Picard show's existence is entirely justified by my amazing av so like no matter what nobody can take that away from us 
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Feb 24, 2020 22:58
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I thought a DS9 HD transfer was impossible (also watching the HD TNG eps on Netflix is so weird, it almost looks like a soap opera)
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Feb 24, 2020 22:59
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zoux posted:I thought a DS9 HD transfer was impossible Like TNG, DS9 was shot on 35mm film and finished on tape for NTSC delivery. So the film elements still exist. The issue is the effects, and whether or not it would make sense from a cost-benefit perspective to re-render and re-finish everything. (It wouldn't.)
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Feb 24, 2020 23:01
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zoux posted:I thought a DS9 HD transfer was impossible (also watching the HD TNG eps on Netflix is so weird, it almost looks like a soap opera) HD TNG should look like anything else shot on film. But check your TV settings to make sure you don't have something called motion flow / smooth motion / frame interpolation / etc... switched on. HD DS9 is entirely possible, it just lacks the will of the license holder to fork out the money to re render and composite digital and optical effects.
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I'll check those settings, but I think it's just weird to me since I watched all of TNG on 4:3 CRT TVs and so the graininess was just kind of part of it for me. It's like when you put on glasses for the first time.
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Timby posted:Like TNG, DS9 was shot on 35mm film and finished on tape for NTSC delivery. So the film elements still exist. Yeah, it’s possible, fans have been doing bootstrap HD remasters with AI programs for years now, but Paramount doesn’t want to spend the money on it for DS9 and Voyager because they’re both equally the bastard stepchildren of TNG in its eyes.
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Seeing every wrinkle on Sisko's face somehow makes me happy.HD DAD posted:I somewhat shamefully admit I’m a poster over on TrekBBS as well, and it’s interesting how different the demographics are between there and SA, and how they’re responding to Picard. So what's the median between the two? And the median between TrekBBS, SA and imdb?
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nine-gear crow posted:Yeah, it’s possible, fans have been doing bootstrap HD remasters with AI programs for years now, but Paramount doesn’t want to spend the money on it for DS9 and Voyager because they’re both equally the bastard stepchildren of TNG in its eyes. Well, it's also because the TNG HD restoration was absurdly expensive and sold like week-old dogshit. If the most popular series faceplanted with its HD release, there's no way there'd be a return on investment from DS9 or Voyager.
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Feb 24, 2020 23:08
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I spent a lot of time in high school trolling TrekBBS because at the time many of the posters there were insufferable assholes. One mod in particular would get really mad if I referred to the author of Dune as "Stank Herbert" I hope the place has improved
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Feb 24, 2020 23:17
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At least both boards can bond over the WTFness of the Aatrek. Was a member of TrekBBS (technically still am I suppose) in the early 2000's until a bunch of us broke away and formed our own board over very serious internet drama involving moderation of their politics forum.
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Feb 24, 2020 23:38
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Senor Tron posted:Was a member of TrekBBS (technically still am I suppose) in the early 2000's until a bunch of us broke away and formed our own board over very serious internet drama involving moderation of their politics forum. Ah, yes, the great Briar Patch / Neutral Zone debacle.
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Timby posted:Well, it's also because the TNG HD restoration was absurdly expensive and sold like week-old dogshit. If the most popular series faceplanted with its HD release, there's no way there'd be a return on investment from DS9 or Voyager. It didn't help that it happened as the home media market started to tank. It looks bloody great on Netflix though.
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Senor Tron posted:At least both boards can bond over the WTFness of the Aatrek. I remember I started a weird Civilization-esque role play thread in the Miscellaneous forum circa 2002. No idea why I did that.
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Timby posted:Ah, yes, the great Briar Patch / Neutral Zone debacle.  LISSAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!
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Senor Tron posted:
She's long gone. She just up and disappeared from the board in like 2010.
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Timby posted:Ah, yes, the great Briar Patch / Neutral Zone debacle. Well?
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zoux posted:Well? I'm on a bus home from work, I'll type it up when I'm in my recliner.
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zoux posted:I'll do that in the 48 minutes I'm not watching a show I hate, teeth gritted at the slap in the face I've been given by the bad writers who don't care. That's exactly my issue. I'd like to talk about the programmes I enjoy watching without pointlessly aggressive gate keeping by shitwits who are offended that people might like it, and subsequently try to drown any discourse in meaningless catchphrases and criticisms unsupported by the episodes. Tighclops posted:Lol you don't get a hug box for a show you like man come on And yet you seem to want one for raging about the show you decided to dislike.
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aw what the hell man we're all here waiting for Timby to relax so we can hear about some juicy old forum drama you're killing the vibe
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:That's exactly my issue. I'd like to talk about the programmes I enjoy watching without pointlessly aggressive gate keeping by shitwits who are offended that people might like it, and subsequently try to drown any discourse in meaningless catchphrases and criticisms unsupported by the episodes. As someone who really would like to enjoy Picard, and someone who genuinely likes the more...controversial Trek series, I’m really curious how you’re enjoying the writing of this show. And that’s a completely genuine question. I ask because this is the first time since oh, Nemesis that I’ve actively been appalled at the level of writing in Trek. The overall story arc actually seems pretty drat interesting, and the characters as concepts are interesting, but the execution...mainly the smaller story beats, the dialogue, and some choice production designs make me feel like this was scripted by someone who isn’t really experienced in writing for television. It’s shiny, but it’s awkward to me. I recognize a lot of the same complaints being levied at Discovery, and while it has its issues, it still has a weird, goofy sort of heart to it that I like. Picard just feels...off and empty. I’m really happy to see a good chunk of people are enjoying it, though.
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The pacing of the show makes me feel like it's not even really gotten started yet 5 episodes in, I'm not exactly enthused at this point but that doesn't make it hatewatching, and I -want- people who like the show to post about it, because I can't see what they're seeing yet still. The only "gatekeeping" I see is people with criticisms being told that they just shouldn't watch the show and should gently caress off.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:That's exactly my issue. I'd like to talk about the programmes I enjoy watching without pointlessly aggressive gate keeping by shitwits who are offended that people might like it, and subsequently try to drown any discourse in meaningless catchphrases and criticisms unsupported by the episodes. Some people don't like the show, or merely not as much as you do, and our talking about this somehow prevents you from posting about it yourself? Keeps you from enjoying it yourself? I "decided" I would dislike it, as opposed to just not expecting it would be very good based on recent material by the same people? I'm "gatekeeping" whatever the gently caress that means? I'm not a mod here, I have no powers. There's an ignore button if other people's thoughts bug you so much. Use it like I'm about to.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:That's exactly my issue. I'd like to talk about the programmes I enjoy watching without pointlessly aggressive gate keeping by shitwits who are offended that people might like it, and subsequently try to drown any discourse in meaningless catchphrases and criticisms unsupported by the episodes. 95% of your posts in this thread are personal attacks against the posters within in, the moment anyone points this out you start bitching about "gatekeeping" Nobody here cares if someone else likes the show.
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Dr. Fishopolis posted:aw what the hell man we're all here waiting for Timby to relax so we can hear about some juicy old forum drama Okay, so, ever since the dawn of time (or 1999, whichever you prefer), So at some point, the board's chief decided, after much discussion in the mod forum, to split the political discussion into two forums. The Neutral Zone was replaced by The Demilitarized Zone, and it would be much more heavily moderated. And then a second forum, The Briar Patch, was added, and that was essentially completely mod-free with the exception of death threats or illegal behavior. Note that this was far from the only boneheaded decision that Lisa, the board's top admin at the time, made during her tenure. She had already pissed off a bunch of old-timers to the point that they started a spin-off site called Troll Kingdom, which wound up doxxing a bunch of the mods and admins, with phone numbers, social security numbers, even addresses put out into the open. Explaining some of the mail I got at my parents' house was ... interesting. As you might expect, the DMZ / Briar Patch experiment did not go well, and the decision was made after about a year to shutter both of them and bring back TNZ, with much stricter moderation (no, you don't get to call a mod a fat Jew motherfucker just because you're pissed he closed a spam thread). This resulted in another exodus of people who started a spin-off site called WordForge, which is a very, uh, odd place. Even though I've been the #2 admin there since 2012, I barely go there anymore except to read and address reports and post in the baseball thread.
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Whoa TrekBBS spawned its very own KiwiFarms I guess its comforting that other forums have the same weird offsite drama we do zoux fucked around with this message at 01:47 on Feb 25, 2020 |
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I can remember when they organized the spam attacks in TK's irc channel, I'm old the internet is old, it's all coming back to me now
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Brawnfire posted:ST:P S04E1-2 "Picard Dies (Pts.1&2)" this idea of an episode just called 'picard dies' really made me laugh they should do it for everyone. a parade of returning characters with their own 'worf dies', 'geordi is killed' episodes, until nobody is left. because they all have died now. large_gourd fucked around with this message at 02:01 on Feb 25, 2020 |
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Timby posted:
Ah, this is one of those "democracy simply doesn't work" stories, isn't it?
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zoux posted:Whoa TrekBBS spawned its very own KiwiFarms I am so glad I have never attempted to ever discuss Star Trek or Star Wars online outside these forums.
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zoux posted:When are you going to stop watchign this show you clearly despise Lovely Joe Stalin posted:That's exactly my issue. I'd like to talk about the programmes I enjoy watching without pointlessly aggressive gate keeping by shitwits who are offended that people might like it, and subsequently try to drown any discourse in meaningless catchphrases and criticisms unsupported by the episodes.
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Control has succeeded in its ultimate goal of wiping out all fun from the face of the thread, we need a time suit to go back and fix it
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who the gently caress is voq
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Tighclops posted:who the gently caress is voq go voq urself
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Timby posted:go voq urself
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Clearly they're going to kill off Picard but transfer his katra into Seven so that Jeri Ryan can be the star of the show. Admit it, her playing someone who's both Seven and Picard at the same time would be great!
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zoux posted:When are you going to stop watchign this show you clearly despise end of the season when they do not pay off the central mystery and set up some bullshit twist in all likelihood. last episode of star trek i liked was either the mushroom universe or saru nearly dies episodes of DISCO, whichever came last
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Timby posted:Okay, so, ever since the dawn of time (or 1999, whichever you prefer), Workforce was really good back in the early days because it was decent at self moderating. Nowadays we've had to codify a lot of rules like "yes you will get banned for using racial slurs" because as we have all learned in the 21st century give people online anonymity and some will become utter trash.
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Senor Tron posted:as we have all learned in the 21st century give people online anonymity and some will become utter trash.
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