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Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
Looks like Erdogan is not going to put his money where his mouth is.

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Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

Rebels seem to have captured Neirab, which is the town they failed to take when Russia bombed the Turkish forces supporting them last week. The regime is still making steady advances in southern Idlib though, so it's hard to see this as much of a rebel victory until they show an ability to hold territory.

Sounds like the rebels may try to grab Saraqib tonight, which is actually a meaningful prize. It's still far from clear that they can hold it if they take it, but at least there's evidence of a real plan there. That said, holding Saraqib a couple weeks ago would have been a hell of a lot better than taking it now, since the regime already used it to launch attacks aimed at the rear of the rebels in western Aleppo, which was wildly successful.

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Feb 24, 2020

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa
In less violent Middle East political news, the Egyptian Musicians Syndicate banned all live performances of the popular genre Mahraganat because some artist sang about weed and alcohol at a big valentine's day concert.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt-musical-syndicate-bans-popular-mahraganat-genre-music

It's pretty bullshit. Anyway, so I put some on my latest mix show.

https://www.mixcloud.com/Cola_al_Karz/iliktronik-vol-13-jadeed-wa-tazij/

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Gimmick Account posted:

I don't think we have a specific thread for that, and I only really post in D&D. It just seemed relevant to the ongoing events, and it's been bothering me a lot lately.

We do have a Corona virus thread. It's in D&D it's titled "We are all going to die"

Herstory Begins Now
Aug 5, 2003
SOME REALLY TEDIOUS DUMB SHIT THAT SUCKS ASS TO READ ->>

Charliegrs posted:

We do have a Corona virus thread. It's in D&D it's titled "We are all going to die"

I thought that was the climate change thread

Gniwu
Dec 18, 2002

Charliegrs posted:

We do have a Corona virus thread. It's in D&D it's titled "We are all going to die"

After digging through multiple pages of D&D, I think you might rather be talking about this thread in GBS? Is that the one?

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Gimmick Account posted:

After digging through multiple pages of D&D, I think you might rather be talking about this thread in GBS? Is that the one?

Oops yeah. That's the thread.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

CherryCola posted:

In less violent Middle East political news, the Egyptian Musicians Syndicate banned all live performances of the popular genre Mahraganat because some artist sang about weed and alcohol at a big valentine's day concert.

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/egypt-musical-syndicate-bans-popular-mahraganat-genre-music

It's pretty bullshit. Anyway, so I put some on my latest mix show.

https://www.mixcloud.com/Cola_al_Karz/iliktronik-vol-13-jadeed-wa-tazij/

It’s almost like living under military fascism is a nightmare, who knew!

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa

Al-Saqr posted:

It’s almost like living under military fascism is a nightmare, who knew!

Who knew! Yeah when Mubarak left and the military took over and all my friends were like “yay they did it!” I said lol show me a country where the military being in charge has been a good thing. Sure enough.

Saladman
Jan 12, 2010

CherryCola posted:

In less violent Middle East political news, the Egyptian Musicians Syndicate banned all live performances of the popular genre Mahraganat because some artist sang about weed and alcohol at a big valentine's day concert.


After a year in Egypt, I was really surprised at how available drugs were at least among expats and upper-middle-class English-speaking Egyptians. Like weed was everywhere, and LSD and shrooms were available at every music festival like SANDBOX, and often at beach parties too. The guy I knew who smoked the most weed is a reasonably high ranking government official.

I guess that's what happens when you have draconian drug laws, but also massive amounts of corruption. I imagine it's the same in Dubai, but the wealthy class there is 2 or 3 orders of magnitude more wealthy than wealthy Egyptians, and being a foreigner alone doesn't protect you.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Saladman posted:

After a year in Egypt, I was really surprised at how available drugs were at least among expats and upper-middle-class English-speaking Egyptians. Like weed was everywhere, and LSD and shrooms were available at every music festival like SANDBOX, and often at beach parties too. The guy I knew who smoked the most weed is a reasonably high ranking government official.

I guess that's what happens when you have draconian drug laws, but also massive amounts of corruption. I imagine it's the same in Dubai, but the wealthy class there is 2 or 3 orders of magnitude more wealthy than wealthy Egyptians, and being a foreigner alone doesn't protect you.

As far as I've had it told to me, if you're a rich citizen in Dubai and you're male then laws might as well not exist.

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa

Saladman posted:

After a year in Egypt, I was really surprised at how available drugs were at least among expats and upper-middle-class English-speaking Egyptians. Like weed was everywhere, and LSD and shrooms were available at every music festival like SANDBOX, and often at beach parties too. The guy I knew who smoked the most weed is a reasonably high ranking government official.

I guess that's what happens when you have draconian drug laws, but also massive amounts of corruption. I imagine it's the same in Dubai, but the wealthy class there is 2 or 3 orders of magnitude more wealthy than wealthy Egyptians, and being a foreigner alone doesn't protect you.

Yeah, like I’ve spoken with quite a few musicians in the process of making this show and drug use does seem relatively common. Especially in scenes where there is a large expat community. Like I would imagine Beirut has a fair amount too.

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Btw, Mubarak just croaked.

Rust Martialis
May 8, 2007

At night, Bavovnyatko quietly comes to the occupiers’ bases, depots, airfields, oil refineries and other places full of flammable items and starts playing with fire there

Randarkman posted:

Btw, Mubarak just croaked.

Eid Mubarak

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

Randarkman posted:

Btw, Mubarak just croaked.

Unfortunately he died a free man comfortably and not in prison like he deserved. Next time the revolutionaries should not make that mistake.

CherryCola
Apr 15, 2002

'ahtaj alshifa
Speaking of Egypt, Mubarak just died.

Edit: drat, jinx

Fizzil
Aug 24, 2005

There are five fucks at the edge of a cliff...



Al-Saqr posted:

Unfortunately he died a free man comfortably and not in prison like he deserved. Next time the revolutionaries should not make that mistake.

We might as well enjoy what little consolation we have, i hope he rots in hell.

Charliegrs
Aug 10, 2009

Randarkman posted:

Btw, Mubarak just croaked.

Is it for real this time?

Randarkman
Jul 18, 2011

Fizzil posted:

We might as well enjoy what little consolation we have, i hope he rots in hell.

His legacy lives on and he was (was he?) cleared of criminal charges before he died. The military dictatorship he represented lives on in not just Egypt, but even appear to be emboldened to use violence and repression to hold on to power even as they remain amenable to the Western public and governments because of their ~~secularism~~ and their willingness to buy military hardware and stop refugees.

Count Roland
Oct 6, 2013

Charliegrs posted:

Is it for real this time?

BBC is reporting it, seems pretty legit.

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
It's hosed up that Mubarak, a loving tyrant, died a free man and Morsi, for all his faults the only freely elected leader of the country, died while still being tried effectively for having been deposed.

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
https://twitter.com/schwarz/status/1232296815732690944?s=21

Yeowch!!! My Balls!!!
May 31, 2006

Absurd Alhazred posted:

It's hosed up that Mubarak, a loving tyrant, died a free man and Morsi, for all his faults the only freely elected leader of the country, died while still being tried effectively for having been deposed.

America Is A Force For Good In The Middle East (tm)

Redgrendel2001
Sep 1, 2006

you literally think a person saying their NBA team of choice being better than the fucking 76ers is a 'schtick'

a literal thing you think.

https://twitter.com/IntelDoge/status/1232463385561714689?s=19

TK-42-1
Oct 30, 2013

looks like we have a bad transmitter




inshallah

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes


~~~~~the US Did corona virus~~~~~~

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


Lol if coronavirus is What finally brings down the Iranian theocratic state.

Missionary Positron
Jul 6, 2004
And now for something completely different

Nothingtoseehere posted:

Lol if coronavirus is What finally brings down the Iranian theocratic state.

It wont, just like it won't bring down China or any other country people have a regime change fetish for.

FAUXTON
Jun 2, 2005

spero che tu stia bene

Nothingtoseehere posted:

Lol if coronavirus is What finally brings down the Iranian theocratic state.

do you think a system that comprehensive simply doesn't have contingencies for "death of the Ayatollah?"

Wait....do you think Khamenei is the same person as Khomeini?

Nenonen
Oct 22, 2009

Mulla on aina kolkyt donaa taskussa
Corona will kill all people over 50.

If that doesn't destroy Iranian regime then President Buttigieg will.

Nothingtoseehere
Nov 11, 2010


FAUXTON posted:

do you think a system that comprehensive simply doesn't have contingencies for "death of the Ayatollah?"

Wait....do you think Khamenei is the same person as Khomeini?

Nah but pretty much all the clerics and senior leadership is 70+ IIRC. This hitting many of them hard could destabilize the system, although it's mostly sarcastic.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

The family of that little girl who was taught to laugh at the sound of bombing was allowed in to Turkey, so at least one family fleeing regime violence got something better than a lovely tent in the freezing cold to live in.

In conflict news, the same trends as before are continuing, with the SAA gobbling up big chunks of territory in southern Idlib, while the rebels continue advancing toward Saraqib in the face of massive bombardment. I wish I had a better sense of why the regime is losing ground near Saraqib--whether it's because they're playing possum and (obviously) focusing efforts elsewhere before they intend to return their focus once the rebels have overextended themselves after taking heavy casualties, or if the regime is losing more ground than they expected to.

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1232586823832088583

Supposedly the rebels have managed to cut the M5 now, and are heavily shelling Saraqib with Turkish support. Securing the M5 was pretty much the whole point of the initial phase of the regime operation, so they and Russia would seem to have to respond to this pretty soon.

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1232683938646286339

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 18:14 on Feb 26, 2020

WhiskeyWhiskers
Oct 14, 2013


"هذا ليس عادلاً."
"هذا ليس عادلاً على الإطلاق."
"كان هناك وقت الآن."
(السياق الخفي: للقراءة)

Sinteres posted:

Supposedly the rebels have managed to cut the M5 now, and are heavily shelling Saraqib with Turkish support. Securing the M5 was pretty much the whole point of the initial phase of the regime operation, so they and Russia would seem to have to respond to this pretty soon.

In the same period the SAA has captured swathes of territory west of Kafranbel. I can't imagine this will be a turning point for the rebels, or negotiations with Turkey.

Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004

The regime finished clearing all of the territory roughly west of Maarratt al Numan, so they finished clearing about halfway up to the M4. They also managed to lose Saraqib to the rebels though, so massive progress on one front while facing big losses on the other. Apparently a shitload of officers have been killed, and the rebels have seized a number of tanks, so it's not just that the regime withdrew--Turkish support is making a big difference despite continued Russian airstrikes. So far there haven't been any mass casualty events for Turkey that we know of, but they have lost a few soldiers here and there on multiple occasions now, and that doesn't seem to be diminishing their resolve. At some point that's going to change one way or the other, and I have to imagine the safety of the Turkish soldiers manning observation posts behind regime lines is going to be a question at some point if this continues.

https://twitter.com/ragipsoylu/status/1232964270675152897

I regret to inform you that the YPG are bad now:

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1232807461008138240

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 13:46 on Feb 27, 2020

Cat Mattress
Jul 14, 2012

by Cyrano4747

Sinteres posted:

I regret to inform you that the YPG are bad now:

They're trying to maintain some amount of US support.

Tweezer Reprise
Aug 6, 2013

It hasn't got six strings, but it's a lot of fun.
ruh roh

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/484943-irans-vice-president-has-contracted-coronavirus-state-media-says

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Disease has had more of an effect on human history than any other cause of death.

Brown Moses
Feb 22, 2002

Some serious sounding rumours from Idlib

https://twitter.com/KyleWOrton/status/1233111177632370691
https://twitter.com/Ozkok_A/status/1233113201379827715
https://twitter.com/gonultol/status/1233114354876403712

Orange Devil
Oct 1, 2010

Wullie's reign cannae smother the flames o' equality!

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

Disease has had more of an effect on human history than any other cause of death.

When the virus reaches the refugee camps it's going to get so loving bad.

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Dr Kool-AIDS
Mar 26, 2004


Don't know wtf Erdogan expected.

https://twitter.com/NotWoofers/status/1233116582504779776

Turkey lost some soldiers in Rojava too:

https://twitter.com/MoussaNDT/status/1233110604111630336

Dr Kool-AIDS fucked around with this message at 20:51 on Feb 27, 2020

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