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BIG HEADLINE posted:I mean, I don't see this version of Clayface threatening to torture Ivy's orphans You don't see this version of Clayface telling Ivy he's going to take her kids to watch his improv group?
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The show's writing is good, animation is a bit handicapped by the low budget nature, because apparently Warner Bros. just doesn't have make good animation money for some reason.
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punk rebel ecks posted:I realize they are (or seem to be) different shows but how would you rank it compared to Castlevania and Rick & Morty? (these are the only other action adult animated series I can think of and I'm stretching it) The real comparison and analogy is Venture Bros. It's pretty much Venture Bros: DC Universe Edition.
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Feb 24, 2020 11:59
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Yeah, it's much more comparable to Venture Bros, but with an emphasis on getting past toxic relationships and building better ones.
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Feb 24, 2020 21:37
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I never watched Venture Bros. What appealed me to the show was watching the beginning of this video (I clicked out due to the "major spoilers warning"). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GC3Rjx1NVSY He states that unlike pretty much every other adult animated show, when it gets political it doesn't try to be edgy by saying "there is no hope to change things! life's a downer!" and actually support people being proactive. The video maker has a whole video about why they hate Rick & Morty.
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Feb 24, 2020 21:43
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You should watch both then, tbh. VB is also great.
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Feb 24, 2020 22:07
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Megazver posted:You should watch both then, tbh. VB is also great. Yeah, if you watch one season every six months you *still* might only have to wait a few years for S8.  Supposedly S8 is coming in 2021 or 2022.
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Feb 24, 2020 23:59
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BIG HEADLINE posted:Yeah, if you watch one season every six months you *still* might only have to wait a few years for S8. In other words, there is so much time between seasons, I will forget half of what I was supposed to remember. A problem that hit me for Mr. Robot, Rick and Morty, and likely a few others I can't think of. The only reason I can still follow Better Call Saul is because they very kindly add a "last time on" before each episode.
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Megazver posted:The real comparison and analogy is Venture Bros. It's pretty much Venture Bros: DC Universe Edition. This needs to be emphasized. The super-science/super-villainy comedy irreverence is on the same level, which is very high praise for HQ. VBros has just has literal decades to build on its mythology. BIG HEADLINE posted:Supposedly S8 is coming in 2021 or 2022. 
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Feb 25, 2020 05:19
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Kaiser Mazoku posted:I really, REALLY gotta wonder why the hell anyone would live in Gotham. According to the comics it's either you're too poor to go elsewhere or you have Stockholm syndrome and don't want to leave because at least it's not as bad as Blüdhaven?
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Chokes McGee posted:According to the comics it's either you're too poor to go elsewhere or you have Stockholm syndrome and don't want to leave because at least it's not as bad as Blüdhaven? There's also central location. Gotham's right next to Bludhaven, Metropolis, and not that far from NYC. And there's Batman's Secret Shame. Gotham is in Jersey, and Metropolis is in Delaware. Also, Superman: Red Son is out today.
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BIG HEADLINE posted:There's also central location. Gotham's right next to Bludhaven, Metropolis, and not that far from NYC. When did DC decide that Gotham, Metropolis, and NYC all head to exist in their world?
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Feb 25, 2020 14:54
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SimonCat posted:When did DC decide that Gotham, Metropolis, and NYC all head to exist in their world? Decades ago probably. They call NYC 'The Cinderella City'. Mind you, the geography is almost as flexible as Springfield. Gotham was basically Boston in The Dark Knight only to become Manhattan in TDKR, and Metropolis has been a plane flight away or literally across the bay in BvS. Keystone City, Star City, Jump City... DC isn't very original with city names. Or as the old saying goes: Metropolis is New York by day, Gotham is New York by night. Apparently, JLA/Avengers, where the differences in geography around NYC come up for obvious reasons, suggests that DC Earth is physically larger. Ghost Leviathan fucked around with this message at 15:14 on Feb 25, 2020 |
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I believe it's primarily a case of them having characters who were based in places like Gotham and Metropolis, and others who existed in places like New York, and then deciding that those characters existed in the same universe. Maybe I've watched too much of Brave and the Bold, but it seems weird to me that Joker would be able to keep Batman trapped for a whole week. Different incarnations and all, but I thought escape artistry was a big part of what makes Batman... Batman.
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fractalairduct posted:I believe it's primarily a case of them having characters who were based in places like Gotham and Metropolis, and others who existed in places like New York, and then deciding that those characters existed in the same universe. Yeah it's a different incarnation as you said, this Batman seems a lot less effective as a crime fighter than nearly all the other incarnations of Batman. Which works fine since that isn't the focus of the show, it is just.... odd.
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I'm also calling BS that Batman didn't have a gas mask on his utility belt to deal with Joker's gas.
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thebardyspoon posted:Yeah it's a different incarnation as you said, this Batman seems a lot less effective as a crime fighter than nearly all the other incarnations of Batman. Which works fine since that isn't the focus of the show, it is just.... odd. It's pretty normal for a superhero to to be most powerful in their own book and a joke in someone else's. It just stands out more with Batman since his own solo stories have him challenged by pretty much mundane threats while his crossovers often have him effortlessly on par with cosmic opposition.
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SimonCat posted:I'm also calling BS that Batman didn't have a gas mask on his utility belt to deal with Joker's gas. Especially since he already had an oxygen mask on while parachuting in.
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Residents in Gotham and Metropolis, their relative fortunes aside, share the same survivorship bias. There were people in England feeling oddly invincible during the bombings of WW2 because, hey, every day someone else's house goes boom but not theirs. Same principle: Luthor contends with Brainiac, Joker poisons the water supply, somehow Superman and Batman save the status quo just in time for a certain percentage of the population every time. Alternately, Gotham's mortality rate is so high that the rent is dirt cheap. Maybe you can snap a selfie with Robin zipping past your window before a telescopic freeze ray kills everyone in your apartment building.
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Xelkelvos posted:Booster Gold and Blue Beetle seem like shoe-ins for showing up to try and capitalize on the vacuum. Harley’s crew already robbed the Kord Industries building earlier in the season so I really hope this is true. Wanna see this version of the JLI, complete with Maxwell Lord as their terrible boss
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Space Fish posted:Residents in Gotham and Metropolis, their relative fortunes aside, share the same survivorship bias. There were people in England feeling oddly invincible during the bombings of WW2 because, hey, every day someone else's house goes boom but not theirs. Same principle: Luthor contends with Brainiac, Joker poisons the water supply, somehow Superman and Batman save the status quo just in time for a certain percentage of the population every time. I imagine the Wayne Foundation also funds oodles of jobs and education programs that one might not find in other cities. Also, the Arrowverse has Gotham set somewhere near Chicago
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Xelkelvos posted:I imagine the Wayne Foundation also funds oodles of jobs and education programs that one might not find in other cities. Yeah, I can't remember which thread it was in (because I actually watch every DC show there is except Titans, so I get my threads mixed up, especially during/post-Crisis). But one show (I think Flash?) showed a map that some goon was kind enough to get us a a couple high-rez stills from. The only irl city on there was Tokyo, for some reason.
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Yeah, I can't remember which thread it was in (because I actually watch every DC show there is except Titans, so I get my threads mixed up, especially during/post-Crisis). But one show (I think Flash?) showed a map that some goon was kind enough to get us a a couple high-rez stills from. It was Flash
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JacquelineDempsey posted:Yeah, I can't remember which thread it was in (because I actually watch every DC show there is except Titans, so I get my threads mixed up, especially during/post-Crisis). But one show (I think Flash?) showed a map that some goon was kind enough to get us a a couple high-rez stills from. It came from Flash when they were doing the post-Crisis review of everything being different now. Bruceski posted:
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Today I realized Kite Man has an actual superpower, and it's not kite related. He's a Chutzpah Elemental. I don't know what color that is on the DC Nature scale though actually I do, it's the "Kite Man" color
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Myers-Briggs spontaneously manifests a KI-TE type.
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SimonCat posted:I'm also calling BS that Batman didn't have a gas mask on his utility belt to deal with Joker's gas. This Batman seems a bit less hyper-competent than the one we've grown accustomed to over the last few decades. He's closer to a less funny Adam West Batman, only having the right gadgets when it's convenient for the plot.
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We all know he has bat shark repellent on that belt
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KenjiKaizoku posted:Of course he does; he even used it on Killer Shark in the Damien Wayne episode! Excuse me sir, I must inform you that King Shark is not a killer shark, just a man-shark that very occasionally murders people.
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KenjiKaizoku posted:Of course he does; he even used it on King Shark in the Damien Wayne episode! that was when i realized i was watching a Good Show™
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King Shark and Killer Shark are two distinct shark people you loving racists.
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I'd just like to note that I'm the target the audience for this, VB and R&M. Youtube insisted on plaguing me with clips of all three, and Harley Quinn is the only one that seemed worth watching full episodes of. It has a different "root for these terrible people" vibe than the other two. Edit - and... the conversation has moved on. I aspire to someday open a reply tab and actually reply on the same date. Xander77 fucked around with this message at 21:18 on Feb 26, 2020 |
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Rhyno posted:King Shark and Killer Shark are two distinct shark people you loving racists. Killer Shark appears to be just a human guy, and I don't think the guy even has any powers. He's an enemy of the Blackhawks, a bunch of people who fly fighter planes and stuff. I don't know if Killer Shark gets invited to animal-people villain groups, and there's awkwardness when it's found that he isn't actually part shark. He probably tries to defend himself that Black Manta isn't actually a manta ray - except that one time that people don't like to talk about - but he's politely told to leave.
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Angry Lobster posted:Excuse me sir, I must inform you that King Shark is not a killer shark, just a man-shark that very occasionally murders people. What is King Sharks ruling domain anyway? Was his kingdom subdued by Aquaman and his brainwashing? I want that to be a season 2 episode. Tear down the Atlantic monarchy!
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Xander77 posted:It has a different "root for these terrible people" vibe than the other two. I think Renegade Cut summed it up really good. HQ has a weird positive heart and message to it about friendship and healing after abuse. It's not as super cynical as Rick and Morty. VB does move closer to a similar direction as HQ but it takes much longer to get there. It starts as pure parody and gains more of a heart and investment in the characters over time. I still highly recommend it.
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God drat Harley Quinn is great. I'm glad Renegade Cut made that video because I would have taken a longer time to get around watching it. It's like Venture Bros but DC. Year there's a lot of swearing and violence, but it doesn't seem like that's done purely because they can. also finally a DC thing with the Joker in it that states that he is literally the worst.
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It's a mark of how great this show is that I love it so much despite the action choreography being weak and the characterization not quite maintaining consistency. But comparing it to The Venture Brothers, that took some time to find its footing and Harley's already off to a stronger start than its first season.
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Daikloktos posted:It's a mark of how great this show is that I love it so much despite the action choreography being weak Yes... Daikloktos posted:and the characterization not quite maintaining ...but hmm?
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I'm only in this thread due to Renegade Cut's video. Is it okay if I watch that video first and then watch the show or are the spoilers too big?
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