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EL BROMANCE posted:Most use the same ranges over and over, and are generally logged in robo blocklists these days. My app turned itself off so I've had a few sneak through, but now it's back on again I won't get any. Unless you're expecting a call from a new number, screen them anyway and let voicemail do it's job. What app do you use
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I use nomorobo on my iPhone. $1.99 a month but I think there was a trial. Always been happy enough with it.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 04:08 |
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computer angel posted:The debt collectors who have mistaken me for a woman named Nadia are blowing up my phone again. The last agent I spoke to said the reason they think I am Nadia is that she called using my number to their office several times last week. I've had my number for 10 years, not sure what's going on. Nadia spoofed your number just like they spoof theirs.
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# ? Feb 26, 2020 15:04 |
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Volmarias posted:Nadia spoofed your number just like they spoof theirs. Yeah that's what I tried to tell them but they kept saying they knew I was Nadia and that I was lying lol. How does a layperson spoof a number?
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# ? Feb 27, 2020 16:16 |
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computer angel posted:Yeah that's what I tried to tell them but they kept saying they knew I was Nadia and that I was lying lol. How does a layperson spoof a number? This and many places online suggest that you may have to file a complaint with the FTC and or your state attorney general.
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# ? Feb 27, 2020 16:25 |
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computer angel posted:Yeah that's what I tried to tell them but they kept saying they knew I was Nadia and that I was lying lol. hint: because 99% of people aren't smart enough to spoof a number, so it's perfectly reasonable for them to assume that the caller ID is accurate. There's a "dealing with debt collectors" thread in BFC: https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3234974 Ask around there, someone might be familiar with how to get these guys to knock it off.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:This and many places online suggest that you may have to file a complaint with the FTC and or your state attorney general. Right on, I'm Canadian but thanks.
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# ? Feb 27, 2020 16:49 |
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computer angel posted:Right on, I'm Canadian but thanks.
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# ? Feb 27, 2020 16:52 |
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computer angel posted:Yeah that's what I tried to tell them but they kept saying they knew I was Nadia and that I was lying lol. How does a layperson spoof a number? They don't, they just assume that you're lying if you claim to not be who they're looking for. All they want is blood from a stone and they don't care how they get it.
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Volmarias posted:They don't, they just assume that you're lying if you claim to not be who they're looking for. All they want is blood from a stone and they don't care how they get it. Oh absolutely, like the collectors who phoned me a few years ago and when I mentioned I had just moved in and had nothing to do with the previous tenants tried to convince me that as I lived there now, I owed the debt. (It was their utility bill) Red Oktober fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Feb 27, 2020 |
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Everyone is dumb enough to get phished sometimes.
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Red Oktober posted:Oh absolutely, like the collectors who phoned me a few years ago and when I mentioned I had just moved in and had nothing to do with the previous tenants tried to convince me that as I lived there now, I owed the debt. (It was their utility bill) This happened to us with a £2400 bill but luckily they were stupid enough to put some of their lies in writing so we ended up with a £67 bill and £600 compensation. Thanks, EDF!
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Sanford posted:This happened to us with a £2400 bill but luckily they were stupid enough to put some of their lies in writing so we ended up with a £67 bill and £600 compensation. Thanks, EDF! Astonishingly, a single day after I posted about it in this thread, this morning I received a cheque for £3.50 because the payment we did make was “miscalculated”. Come August it will be ten years since the payment was made. Imagine if it was an amount of money you cared about!
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# ? Feb 29, 2020 12:06 |
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Bad Paper is an awesome book and goes into some of this debt collection scam stuff. Really opened my eyes to the DC industry and the giant scam it is.
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# ? Feb 29, 2020 21:33 |
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Anyone who can say "I was upset at first, but then I remembered it was only money" about losing $400,000 needs to lose far more than that.
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# ? Mar 1, 2020 06:20 |
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Some scammers are going pro it looks likequote:An army of more more than 200 fake “traders” based in Ukraine have been persuading victims all over the world to part with their savings, according to a whistleblower from the operation who describes it as a huge investment scam. more here: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/01/revealed-fake-traders-allegedly-prey-on-victims-in-global-investment-scam
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I don't know if it was a scam but the Xbox 360 and its red ring of death failures were really something. I can't remember a more disastrous product failure and I guess the real scam was how Microsoft continued to denied it was an actual problem. I think there was a class action suit.
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BiggerBoat posted:I don't know if it was a scam but the Xbox 360 and its red ring of death failures were really something. I can't remember a more disastrous product failure and I guess the real scam was how Microsoft continued to denied it was an actual problem. I think there was a class action suit. Wouldn't Theranos count as a more disastrous failure?
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# ? Mar 2, 2020 22:25 |
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Investors lost $700 million on Theranos, while Microsoft estimated that the RRoD failures cost them $1.15 billion.
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# ? Mar 3, 2020 01:03 |
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If Microsoft’s Xbox decision was run like Theranos, they would have just put a PlayStation in a custom case, overwrote the boot loader with some sweet chip tunes, and ripped and sold PS games as their own and called that the Xbox 360. Depending on your POV, that might have been the smarter move.
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Inceltown posted:Wouldn't Theranos count as a more disastrous failure? Yes because unlike literally everything Theranos did the Xbox 360 actually worked most of the time. The Xbox was an actual, functional product that did as advertised it just had a pretty wicked flaw. Theranos, on the other hand, never had anything that actually worked other than Elizabeth Holmes' ability to commit massive amounts of fraud.
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# ? Mar 3, 2020 04:26 |
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Theranos was really effective at taking old white guys money.
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# ? Mar 3, 2020 14:46 |
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Theranos was a Ponzi scheme with extra steps.
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My favorite part about the whole Theranos fiasco is that after it all came to light and Holmes got charged she hired a big expensive team of super lawyers to defend her, but then a couple months later the legal team filed with the judge a statement to the effect of "Holmes hasn't paid us and we honestly have no reason to think that she's ever going to pay us, so please give us permission not to defend her any more" and the judge let them walk.
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# ? Mar 3, 2020 19:22 |
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So how long until Trump appoints her to run his health care overhaul?
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# ? Mar 3, 2020 19:34 |
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He only likes grifters who don't get
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# ? Mar 4, 2020 01:24 |
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Volmarias posted:He only likes grifters who are men
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# ? Mar 4, 2020 01:27 |
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Not so, he's placed Betsey DeVos as the secretary of education!
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# ? Mar 4, 2020 01:30 |
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Volmarias posted:Not so, he's placed Betsey DeVos as the secretary of education! Schools are lady things and plus she’s a gazillionaire, which Holmes is not anymore. Similarly, Elaine Chao is a gazillionaire and also married to Mitch McConnell
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# ? Mar 4, 2020 05:34 |
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Friends nearly fell for the "house sold by someone who has nothing to do with the property owner" setup a few days ago. Their landlord told them last week that she wanted to sell the property so they have until mid-April to find a new home. So they've been looking around and it's kinda hard to find a room for a couple with a teen girl + a friend of the family on short notice. They thought they'd found a wonderful place that was closer to work, near a lot of stuff they wanted and near a school for the teen daughter to go to next year...only to find out the guy "renting" the house was a scammer/didn't exist. They got suspicious when they arrived and he wasn't there to meet them. The big realtor lock on the front door was open so they went in, looked around and it was a real nice place just as it had been described to them but when they called the number on the lock they were told that no person of such-and-such name had permission to rent out the property or had ever been a past leaseholder.
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AlbieQuirky posted:Schools are lady things and plus she’s a gazillionaire, which Holmes is not anymore. There's a reason Kentucky keeps getting sweet rear end DOT projects.
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wasnt DeVos 's brother(inlaw??) (who's also the prez/ceo of that warcrimes PMC company) invest in Theranos ?
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PhazonLink posted:wasnt DeVos 's brother(inlaw??) (who's also the prez/ceo of that warcrimes PMC company) invest in Theranos ? Eric Prince is Betsy DeVos' brother. She married into the DeVos family, which owns Amway. Their father was an auto industry man who patented the car visor light, among other things. It was a Michigan failchild nobility marriage. Betsy DeVos was one of the biggest investors in Theranos so Eric Prince probably got roped in.
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Since I live for this sort of poo poo, cross posting from the Schadenfreude threadMephiston posted:So a lot of you are aware who Jim Browning is, as I believe he was mentioned earlier in the thread along with the likes of Kitboga. For those who don't know, he's a Youtuber who exposes scammers in hilarious fashion. Recently, he has been busy targetting one scam center in India, to the point of where he managed to download 70,000+ calls from the place, and access their CCTV. I'd love to see a similar hidden camera, deep dive thing done on MLM's. I've considered trying it myself - pretending to be a yuppie self driven entrepreneur who wants to work for himself and seeing how much footage I can get to expose those creeps. But that would take a lot of time and probably some "play money" that I don't have. Bet it'd be fun though. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 23:01 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Since I live for this sort of poo poo, cross posting from the Schadenfreude thread There have been a bunch of “expose the huckster” shows, articles, and podcasts about MLMs and nothing ever changes. If you want to do it because it makes you feel like some kind of badass undercover cop knock yourself out, but don’t expect to get a Pulitzer Prize or invitation to testify in front of Congress or anything.
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Midjack posted:There have been a bunch of “expose the huckster” shows, articles, and podcasts about MLMs and nothing ever changes. If you want to do it because it makes you feel like some kind of badass undercover cop knock yourself out, but don’t expect to get a Pulitzer Prize or invitation to testify in front of Congress or anything. Jesus, man. No. I just like the idea of exposing creeps If I had the time and money it'd be a lot more rewarding and a better use of my time than the lovely job I work at. I'm no badass or whatever you said. God drat. Guess you put me in my place though. EDIT: Also, if you have the sort of undercover MLM dives I'd like to see besides the 20/20 thing and all the YT vids that just offer testimonials, I'd be interested to see some good ones if you can link me to something. I'm talking about vids where people record meetings, pitches, those conferences and poo poo like that because most of what I can find is just people in front of a camera saying "don't do and MLM" and couple of podcasts. Or you can just insult me some more. Either way is fine. BiggerBoat fucked around with this message at 00:14 on Mar 9, 2020 |
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BiggerBoat posted:Jesus, man. No. I just like the idea of exposing creeps This seems to have what you’re looking for: https://youtu.be/wyCRzBt7GuY
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Midjack posted:This seems to have what you’re looking for: https://youtu.be/wyCRzBt7GuY Thanks. I'd actually seen that one before. ... On another note, these rear end in a top hat televangelists really grind my loving gears; probably even more than MLM hucksters. https://twitter.com/RightWingWatch/status/1237060844300701698 Bakker and Peter Popoff (who was exposed by James Randi) both went to prison and somehow can still convince rubes to buy their stupid bullshit products. People are loving morons.
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BiggerBoat posted:I'd love to see a similar hidden camera, deep dive thing done on MLM's. "Betsy Devos secretary of education" : wife of Amway CEO, her dad was blackwater's CEO
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BiggerBoat posted:Thanks. I'd actually seen that one before. The sort of person who believed them before saw the conviction as vindication for just how right they are and that the state is trying to hold him back. So no people aren't loving morons they're worse than that.
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