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Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

Serf posted:

the abuse and misunderstanding of the word "authoritarian" is going to kill me

at this point i recommend just letting it wash over you, like i do when people argue endlessly about capitalism vs socialism being entirely about state intervention into market economies

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Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

GalacticAcid posted:

I didn’t watch the debate but is this actually what Bloomberg said, because that rules

yeah he started to explain the party/state dichotomy before realizing it was a waste of time

Stairmaster
Jun 8, 2012

gradenko_2000 posted:

he's ... not ... wrong?????????????

the politburo are all wealthy elites

Lightning Knight
Feb 24, 2012

Pray for Answer

owned

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


how many words are on the essay requirement to this man's subreddit

Flavius Aetass
Mar 30, 2011
are there any socialist organizations in the US that aren't ridiculous?

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...


Flavius Aetass posted:

are there any socialist organizations in the US that aren't ridiculous?

SAlt seems like it might not be that bad, I like Kshama anyway

The Marxist Center is a new thing but it is also tiny and from what I can tell, doesn't really have a strong sense of democratic centralism so any affiliate is a diceroll

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

:rolleye:

Mr. Lobe
Feb 23, 2007

... Dry bones...



look man it's slim pickings

or is it the abbreviation you're taking issue with

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

the only good socialist is the cutie reading this

THS
Sep 15, 2017

T-man posted:

the only good socialist is the cutie reading this

thanks

Dreddout
Oct 1, 2015

You must stay drunk on writing so reality cannot destroy you.

Stairmaster posted:

the politburo are all wealthy elites


gradenko_2000 posted:

he's ... not ... wrong?????????????

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
larry parish

Terrorist Fistbump
Jan 29, 2009

by Nyc_Tattoo
I'm not convinced the Marxist Center exists as anything more than a network of blogs and facebook pages tbh.

freckle
Apr 6, 2016

by Nyc_Tattoo

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016

Mr. Lobe posted:

look man it's slim pickings

or is it the abbreviation you're taking issue with

the former

Venom Snake
Feb 19, 2014

by Nyc_Tattoo

THS posted:

thanks

Mia Wasikowska
Oct 7, 2006

Serf posted:

the abuse and misunderstanding of the word "authoritarian" is going to kill me

hey at least they're not saying totalitarian so much these days

Victory Position
Mar 16, 2004


SSJ_naruto_2003
Oct 12, 2012



Flavius Aetass posted:

are there any socialist organizations in the US that aren't ridiculous?

All of the PSL organizers I've met are good people and the classes are actually quite good.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/go4gregg/status/1232901481986248704?s=19

Algund Eenboom
May 4, 2014

https://mobile.twitter.com/TIFG14/status/1233023861437927424

IAMKOREA
Apr 21, 2007
I found a cool link on CSPAM about a Russian writer or actor, someone involved in theater, about how hosed up everything became after capitalism. A major theme was about losing friendships - under communism they had plenty of time to bond with each other and pursue their own theatrical pursuits in different party sponsored small theaters and after capitalism all of this ended, it was every man for himself, etc...

I can't remember the dudes name, would really like to find that article again... anyone know what I'm talking about?

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
Weird how, in the midst of a series of manufactured acts vandalism against Bloomberg offices, RGA decided to vandalize a Bloomberg office :thunk:

https://twitter.com/ponchis_g/status/1233053900892184576?s=19

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


MizPiz posted:

Weird how, in the midst of a series of manufactured acts vandalism against Bloomberg offices, RGA decided to vandalize a Bloomberg office :thunk:

https://twitter.com/ponchis_g/status/1233053900892184576?s=19

this is the first good thing theyve done

Bro Dad
Mar 26, 2010


MizPiz posted:

Weird how, in the midst of a series of manufactured acts vandalism against Bloomberg offices, RGA decided to vandalize a Bloomberg office :thunk:

https://twitter.com/ponchis_g/status/1233053900892184576?s=19

PISS
PIGS

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Bro Dad posted:

PISS
PIGS

...granddad? D:

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


MizPiz posted:

Weird how, in the midst of a series of manufactured acts vandalism against Bloomberg offices, RGA decided to vandalize a Bloomberg office :thunk:

https://twitter.com/ponchis_g/status/1233053900892184576?s=19

REDS RULE

GalacticAcid
Apr 8, 2013

NEW YORK VALUES

3
Aug 26, 2006

The Magic Number


College Slice

:vince:

Sheng-Ji Yang
Mar 5, 2014


lol at just the "don't vote"

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

Flavius Aetass posted:

are there any socialist organizations in the US that aren't ridiculous?

at some point you can either get organized, or continue to be a party of one. the people that can only poo poo talk every currently existing organization of the working class arent really interested in fighting capitalism, just sitting on the sidelines. people looking for some perfect movement or organization are going to be looking forever. look around you and see whos active and join them. or if your willing to do it, and its a lot of hard work that might not pay off for a long time, find an organization you see doing work whose methods you agree with who isnt around you and join and commit to learning their methods so you can build a presence where youre at. a lot of people are looking for someone or some party to come along and give the answer or show the way. ultimately if you want capitalism to end its up to you to do it. same with me and everyone else/ theres plenty of people out there who will help you every step of the way but they cant do it for you only with you.

Autism Sneaks
Nov 21, 2016
lol I knew as soon as he asked that question he'd get a visit from the Trot specter haunting LF, surprised it took this long

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

apropos to nothing posted:

at some point you can either get organized, or continue to be a party of one. the people that can only poo poo talk every currently existing organization of the working class arent really interested in fighting capitalism, just sitting on the sidelines. people looking for some perfect movement or organization are going to be looking forever. look around you and see whos active and join them. or if your willing to do it, and its a lot of hard work that might not pay off for a long time, find an organization you see doing work whose methods you agree with who isnt around you and join and commit to learning their methods so you can build a presence where youre at. a lot of people are looking for someone or some party to come along and give the answer or show the way. ultimately if you want capitalism to end its up to you to do it. same with me and everyone else/ theres plenty of people out there who will help you every step of the way but they cant do it for you only with you.

what are your thoughts on the candidacies of Joseph Kishore and Niles Niemuth

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003
someone asked about organizing irl. im always gonna be sincere and post if it means even one person gets involved in revolutionary politics

apropos to nothing
Sep 5, 2003

gradenko_2000 posted:

what are your thoughts on the candidacies of Joseph Kishore and Niles Niemuth

I wish them luck in their campaign to become president for the sole reason of issuing a full presidential pardon to roman polanski

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

a revolution I can't snort is no revolution at all

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

apropos to nothing posted:

at some point you can either get organized, or continue to be a party of one. the people that can only poo poo talk every currently existing organization of the working class arent really interested in fighting capitalism, just sitting on the sidelines. people looking for some perfect movement or organization are going to be looking forever. look around you and see whos active and join them. or if your willing to do it, and its a lot of hard work that might not pay off for a long time, find an organization you see doing work whose methods you agree with who isnt around you and join and commit to learning their methods so you can build a presence where youre at. a lot of people are looking for someone or some party to come along and give the answer or show the way. ultimately if you want capitalism to end its up to you to do it. same with me and everyone else/ theres plenty of people out there who will help you every step of the way but they cant do it for you only with you.

this is correct. It’s exciting to make a difference locally. in an internationalist organization you can extend your horizon toward a planetary revolution that really, really needs to happen.

mawarannahr fucked around with this message at 08:09 on Feb 28, 2020

Dreylad
Jun 19, 2001

free him

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Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Dreylad posted:

free him

the ban reason is so goddamn lol

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