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Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow
Anything made after 9/11 sucks. Ravnica, Super Smash Bros. Melee, etc.

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Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Star Man posted:

Anything made after 9/11 sucks. Ravnica, Super Smash Bros. Melee, etc.

Your post.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



Elephant Ambush posted:

LOL shut up idiot

it is actually related to magic: the gathering, making it a lot better than whatever we've been talking about for the last day

No. 1 Apartheid Fan posted:

old art is diverse, not high-quality; as a result of that diversity there are some really fun, funny, creative, or evocative pieces that seldom show up in the current game (especially outside of poo poo like lairs) and also some weird dogshit and vague racism

Yeah, I agree with this pretty much.

Look Around You
Jan 19, 2009

Star Man posted:

Anything made after 9/11 sucks. Ravnica, Super Smash Bros. Melee, etc.

all college freshmen...

seems about right

ilmucche
Mar 16, 2016

What did you say the strategy was?

Bust Rodd posted:


The art is good

Send me your dredge list! End this terrible art chat

Lord_Magmar
Feb 24, 2015

"Welcome to pound town, Slifer slacker!"


I really like the Ixalan art myself. Especially the actual creature art.

Reene
Aug 26, 2005

:justpost:

Hi friends. This thread is generating a lot of reports in the past few days and I would like that to stop being the case. I realize this is a difficult ask, but please stop being so god drat salty about Magic.

BizarroAzrael
Apr 6, 2006

"That must weigh heavily on your soul. Let me purge it for you."
There's a pretty convincing leak, I won't post the image as I'm on my phone but it's a playsrt of Thalia, Guardian of Thraben.

mandatory lesbian
Dec 18, 2012

Bust Rodd posted:


The art is good

Honestly this art seems like a deliberate homage to some of the weirder stuff from ice age era magic, and I'm here for it

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




BizarroAzrael posted:

There's a pretty convincing leak, I won't post the image as I'm on my phone but it's a playsrt of Thalia, Guardian of Thraben.

before anyone gets excited, it's just another Secret Lair

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9F-bRknQxj/?igshid=2vfgyemmlb99

Sickening
Jul 16, 2007

Black summer was the best summer.

Lone Goat posted:

before anyone gets excited, it's just another Secret Lair

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9F-bRknQxj/?igshid=2vfgyemmlb99

Is this the first play set secret lair?

Alris
Apr 20, 2007

Welcome to the Fantasy Zone!

Get ready!
Nah, the trippy Serum Visions was the first.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Sickening posted:

Is this the first play set secret lair?

Nope. Serum Visions got one.

fluffyDeathbringer
Nov 1, 2017

it's not what you've got, it's what you make of it
unironically bring back kaja foglio

DAD LOST MY IPOD
Feb 3, 2012

Fats Dominar is on the case


I’mma let you finish but Tony DiTerlizzi is the best MTG illustrator of all time

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

I’mma let you finish but Tony DiTerlizzi is the best MTG illustrator of all time

Not sure if I agree for absolute favorite, but up there.

The 2nd ed Planescape manual is elevated by his illustration.

Goa Tse-tung
Feb 11, 2008

;3

Yams Fan
I don't get this SL, it's a playset of a staple which means tournament players, but it's all foils so bad for actually playing. And the art isn't as good as Serum Visions.

PleasantDirge
Sep 7, 2009
ASK ME ABOUT HOW NOT BEING A FUCKING ASSHOLE ON THE ROAD IS JUST LIKE BEING A JEW AT A NAZI GATHERING BECAUSE I CAN NOT UNDERSTAND HOW TO NOT BE A FUCKING ASSHOLE AND WHEN PEOPLE TREAT ME LIKE I'M A FUCKING ASSHOLE THAT IS JUST LIKE GENOCIDE

Goa Tse-tung posted:

I don't get this SL, it's a playset of a staple which means tournament players, but it's all foils so bad for actually playing. And the art isn't as good as Serum Visions.

Step one is getting them to admit the foils are hot garbage. I hope Rudy is hoarding them in his basement until we get the announcement they will be reprinted annually

That's universal as it get rights? Is there anyone reasonable that follows that alpha investment bullshit? I haven't met them yet

PleasantDirge fucked around with this message at 15:33 on Feb 28, 2020

Mat Cauthon
Jan 2, 2006

The more tragic things get,
the more I feel like laughing.



Lone Goat posted:

before anyone gets excited, it's just another Secret Lair

https://www.instagram.com/p/B9F-bRknQxj/?igshid=2vfgyemmlb99

None of those new arts look any better than the original. People have to stop buying this poo poo.

DAD LOST MY IPOD posted:

I’mma let you finish but Tony DiTerlizzi is the best MTG illustrator of all time

Top 3 for sure.

kalvanoo
Apr 29, 2018

look at this lil perv

No. 1 Apartheid Fan posted:

old art is diverse, not high-quality; as a result of that diversity there are some really fun, funny, creative, or evocative pieces that seldom show up in the current game (especially outside of poo poo like lairs) and also some weird dogshit and vague racism

this, basically. the quality of the art itself lately has been great but it's still generally too explicit. it's obviously an art direction problem, where the artists are being told what chandra should look like, as opposed to being allowed to decide what she should look like, or even what a planeswalker would be. i'd much rather the cards present diverse and even conflicting representation of the subject matter than having everything be homogeneous (and in my view, sterile).

i liked their serum visions secret lair thing, so obviously they're aware of this on some level at least. my guess would be that their marketing chuds want to develop a coherent brand in order to sell toys and other poo poo.


all that said, i'm probably in the minority here, since my favorite mtg artists were the foglios, margaret organ-kean, drew tucker and quinton hoover.

Lone Goat
Apr 16, 2003

When life gives you lemons, suplex those lemons.




I miss Quinton Hoover so much, I loved the style he had

distortion park
Apr 25, 2011


There is a weird amount of really terrible CGI in the newer sets, I don't get how it makes it into the finished product. They also seem to have like 5 slots for good, interesting art (hushbringer, some seb stuff, etc) and the rest ranges from bad to on

Cactrot
Jan 11, 2001

Go Go Cactus Galactus





Lone Goat posted:

I miss Quinton Hoover so much, I loved the style he had

The original regeneration art is still one of my absolute favorites.

Owlbear Camus
Jan 3, 2013

Maybe this guy that flies is just sort of passing through, you know?



Cactrot posted:

The original regeneration art is still one of my absolute favorites.

There's something to be said for the fact that I can instantly conjure this bold, clean piece of art in my mindseye, whereas if you asked me to do so for the busy, over-directed art of any aura card I've played dozens or hundreds of times drafting in paper or arena since IXN, it's unlikely.

Whaleporn
May 6, 2007

This is me on my bike pretty cool huh?
Maze of ith old school sending a creature crawling through intestines. Vesuvan doppleganger being a super clean and distinctive design. Shivan dragon coming at you right off the side of an 70s arcade machine with almost gross levels of basic colors...

I miss a level of abstraction to the cards and worlds. The cohesive art/story design for all that it makes the art look more mature but leaves almost no room to muse about how two different cards co-exist in the same universe or just any wonder about the world of magic.

whydirt
Apr 18, 2001


Gaz Posting Brigade :c00lbert:
At some point the art directors for Magic forgot that their art has to look good and readable in a tiny card frame and not just as a high definition desktop background. Even with the less technically proficient art from Alpha I can still tell what the card is from across the table.

No Wave
Sep 18, 2005

HA! HA! NICE! WHAT A TOOL!
planeswalker "art direction" is the absolute worst. the same people standing in a pose waist up over and over.

evilweasel
Aug 24, 2002

excuse me but iconic art that is designed to match a card and make the card playable does not match our creative vision of trying to make a magic movie and tv show and videogames and anything else our cold bean-counting hearts can think of besides a card game

ShaneB
Oct 22, 2002


No Wave posted:

planeswalker "art direction" is the absolute worst. the same people standing in a pose waist up over and over.

That's a really good point, the walkers are never really DOING ANYTHING.

hey mom its 420
May 12, 2007

that's why i really like the whimsical alternate art that they did in eldraine. the sagas are also great, as they show art as it would appear in the world itself instead of the art representing a DSLR photograph of that world. i think the art direction was at a local minimum somewhere around magic: origins, but it started getting a lot better with some of the newer sets.

Elyv
Jun 14, 2013



ShaneB posted:

That's a really good point, the walkers are never really DOING ANYTHING.

Vivien is the absolute worst for this, if someone told me that the art description for every Vivien piece was cut and pasted I would not be surprised.

Necronomicon
Jan 18, 2004

Owlbear Camus posted:

There's something to be said for the fact that I can instantly conjure this bold, clean piece of art in my mindseye, whereas if you asked me to do so for the busy, over-directed art of any aura card I've played dozens or hundreds of times drafting in paper or arena since IXN, it's unlikely.

I feel like one of the biggest problems with the CGI-heavy art style is it's not easily parsed on a 2" square of paper. Quinton Hoover's stuff sticks out because a lot of it feels like the art you'd see in a comic book panel and it works at the small size.

Oceanbound
Jan 19, 2008

Time to let the dead be dead.

Elyv posted:

Vivien is the absolute worst for this, if someone told me that the art description for every Vivien piece was cut and pasted I would not be surprised.

Don't be mean to Vivien, Bolas superglued her fingers to her arrow as a prank.

kalvanoo
Apr 29, 2018

look at this lil perv
i remember reading somewhere that because of printing constraints the original art itself had to be relatively small (something like 5x7 iirc), which probabaly contributed a lot to the overall "readability" of it.


Whaleporn posted:

I miss a level of abstraction to the cards and worlds. The cohesive art/story design for all that it makes the art look more mature but leaves almost no room to muse about how two different cards co-exist in the same universe or just any wonder about the world of magic.

i'd say almost the opposite re: maturity. the abstract (and sometimes almost disturbing) art felt a lot more mature to me than whatever the hell every planeswalker holding some kind of flaming orb is supposed to represent.

Salvor_Hardin
Sep 13, 2005

I want to go protest.
Nap Ghost
When I die and inevitably go to hell, I will have to forever replay a recent game where I got stuck on 2 land against a towering wave mystic who proceeded to mill 1-2 land every attack while I drew CMC3+ spells.

Blooming Brilliant
Jul 12, 2010

ShaneB posted:

That's a really good point, the walkers are never really DOING ANYTHING.

Another point in favour of Angrath being the best Planeswalker, cause he's just always living his best mad minotaur pirate life.

Irony Be My Shield
Jul 29, 2012

ShaneB posted:

That's a really good point, the walkers are never really DOING ANYTHING.
Yeah agreed. If these cards are meant to represent people at different points of their lives we should see some clear difference in them or the action they're doing. Like maybe the art of Tezzeret, Master of the Bridge could feature... the loving bridge??

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Blooming Brilliant posted:

Another point in favour of Angrath being the best Planeswalker, cause he's just always living his best mad minotaur pirate life.

Uhhh....

I think you will find that Angrath is a loving and devoted dad who is super mad that he can't find his way home to tuck in his minotatur kids.

suicidesteve
Jan 4, 2006

"Life is a maze. This is one of its dead ends.


Toshimo posted:

Uhhh....

I think you will find that Angrath is a loving and devoted dad who is super mad that he can't find his way home to tuck in his minotatur kids.

Same tbh

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Wurzag
Jun 3, 2007

Bad Moons, Bad Moons, wot ya gonna do?


Toshimo posted:

Uhhh....

I think you will find that Angrath is a loving and devoted dad who is super mad that he can't find his way home to tuck in his minotatur kids.

Which is funny because a) it's true, and b) no element of his background has ever been communicated on a card once

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