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pixelizedpope
Jul 11, 2006

DancingShade posted:

Hot soapy water > hand sanitiser if you're at home. The squirty stuff in plastic bottles is for when you're on the move.

Also now is the time to go reading some industrial / medical guides about hand hygiene. Should be able to find a ton of free learning resources online.

"lol I don't need to be told how to wash my hands"

Well apparently the average person does need to be told. Get reading.

Can confirm this. Day one of nursing school for me was having us wash our hands how we thought we should, and then shining a UV light on us to see all the spots we missed. It was quite a lesson.

Do yourself a favor and learn the right way.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IisgnbMfKvI

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hallelujah
Jan 26, 2020

by LITERALLY AN ADMIN

pixelizedpope posted:

Can confirm this. Day one of nursing school for me was having us wash our hands how we thought we should, and then shining a UV light on us to see all the spots we missed. It was quite a lesson.
i had to do this in vet nursing and the exercise was so profoundly distressing to me that i dropped the course the next day

euthanising suffering animals is not a problem for me. but all those glowing uv spots on my clean clean hands. all those spots

Daikloktos
Jan 1, 2020

by Cyrano4747

pixelizedpope posted:

Can confirm this. Day one of nursing school for me was having us wash our hands how we thought we should, and then shining a UV light on us to see all the spots we missed. It was quite a lesson.
I learned the same lesson the first time I chopped up hot peppers then thoroughly washed my hands before taking a piss

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Gonna go scope out the local store.

Fojar38
Sep 2, 2011


Sorry I meant to say I hope that the police use maximum force and kill or maim a bunch of innocent people, thus paving a way for a proletarian uprising and socialist utopia


also here's a stupid take
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Your immune system is a badass and can deal with you missing some spots when handwashing

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

Daikloktos posted:

I learned the same lesson the first time I chopped up hot peppers then thoroughly washed my hands before taking a piss

You have skills and abilities that were forged in fire!

Mr.Pibbleton
Feb 3, 2006

Aleuts rock, chummer.

numberoneposter posted:

Gonna go scope out the local store.

I'm in Seattle and people are panic buying at Costco but not touching the ethnic food stores.

wilderthanmild
Jun 21, 2010

Posting shit




Grimey Drawer
I'm in Ohio, nobody seems to be pillaging the stores yet.

Probably because at least 40% of the people here take Trump's word as gold and think this is a hoax. Once they panic it will be a Chinese super weapon.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

I just got over a cold/flu that took made me feel like poo poo for 3/4 days and I'm not looking forward to having to deal with another one so hopefully I get a bit of a break. I'm pretty confident if it shows up around here I'll be exposed to it. I am confident in my health at least.

I'm going to drink less so that I can tell the difference between "oh god im never drinking again" and "oh god its the corona virus"

they do feel different though, but there is some cross over between a real bad hangover and the flu.

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

I'm in Seattle and people are panic buying at Costco but not touching the ethnic food stores.
I have a big Save-On Foods (think Safeway) or whatever right nearby me. I dunno, I just think the Canadian mentality isn't quite as dramatic as even Americans right nearby. I could be wrong. BC has reported cases a couple weeks ago I think.

Lacrosse
Jun 16, 2010

>:V


Seattle-area goon checking in, just finished the last of my grocery shopping for perishable items. I went to a Trader Joe's, which was busy but not by much more than your average weekend. The frozen food section was starting to look a little picked over by the time I got there around 2pm.

owlhawk911
Nov 8, 2019

come chill with me, in byob

so how bad of an idea is it to spend 18 hours at the denver international airport? is this a good way to catch the virus? should i wear a facemask or spray everything i touch with lysol or what?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

owlhawk911 posted:

so how bad of an idea is it to spend 18 hours at the denver international airport? is this a good way to catch the virus? should i wear a facemask or spray everything i touch with lysol or what?

Wear a set of disposable painter overalls with hood, plastic bags over your shoes and avoid using any public toilet (so hold it in for 18 hours). Wear both a face mask and sealed goggles at all times. Eat & consume nothing exposed to the air.

Enjoy your stay.

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur
Just go outside the airport, where wind and air move freely.

If you feel like looking paranoid, wear a mask and nitrile gloves.

And don't touch your goddamn face.

Acres of Quakers
May 6, 2006
Wear a sign around your neck that says: "Recently in Italy, please stay 30 ft away".

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

CRUSTY MINGE posted:

And don't touch your goddamn face.

Simplest thing and always great advice.

Also never forget your eye membranes are an attack vector so if your eyes aren't protected then that face mask is loving pointless unless you're kind enough to be thinking of not spreading your own germs to others. So maybe wear that anyway out of consideration if you're sick.

Bullfrog
Nov 5, 2012

Mr.Pibbleton posted:

I'm in Seattle and people are panic buying at Costco but not touching the ethnic food stores.

I found a fantastic deal on canned seafood and lots of cool rear end items at the local indochinese store, i was the only one there. huge bags of rice too for cheap

golden bubble
Jun 3, 2011

yospos

The good thing is that all information from every country suggest that the majority of cases for this coronavirus (SARS-2) result in mild symptoms equal to a somewhat bad case of the common cold. So most people who get it will be fine. But health officials are extremely worried because SARS-2 is both appears to be more infectious than typical flu viruses and has a higher chance of resulting in pneumonia* compared to the flu. Combining those two factors means SARS-2 can jam up every single hospital bed in your state with new cases of pneumonia and then some. It's infectious enough to potentially infect 20% of the population in a year, and those numbers mean that even a 20% pneumonia rate is enough to fill out every hospital in the area. At that point, it will get real bad for new patients that come down with pneumonia or need to go to the hospital for other reason. Because all the spare beds are already packed with SARS-2 pneumonia cases.


*This is largely how SARS-2 kills people. It gives some of them a bad case of pneumonia.

golden bubble fucked around with this message at 01:30 on Mar 1, 2020

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Pneumonia can kill even healthy people so it's definitely a huge concern

Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

DancingShade posted:

Simplest thing and always great advice.

Also never forget your eye membranes are an attack vector so if your eyes aren't protected then that face mask is loving pointless unless you're kind enough to be thinking of not spreading your own germs to others. So maybe wear that anyway out of consideration if you're sick.

It's idiotic to claim it's pointless unless you consider any situation that isn't 100% protection to be pointless, in which case the face masks are always and ever pointless.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
My eyes are permanently protected by wrap around sunglasses , like cool mithril for my eyes

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer
When shopping today I saw both pasta and hand sanitizer where unavailable in several shops.
Funny thing is people see no pasta and start panick buying. Guess what, there is no more pasta because it is all produced in italy and driven here by truck, from the affected regions where production is halted. Not because the world is ending.

But this is how panic flares up.

Jabor
Jul 16, 2010

#1 Loser at SpaceChem

Mithaldu posted:

It's idiotic to claim it's pointless unless you consider any situation that isn't 100% protection to be pointless, in which case the face masks are always and ever pointless.

Nah.

Face masks provide no real protection for the person wearing them if they're worn improperly, reused, or you're not also wearing something to protect your eyes.

They're likely to increase your risk of contracting something if wearing one makes you hang around sick people more because you think you're protected. Or if wearing it makes you touch your face more because you're constantly adjusting your mask.

The main reason to wear one is if you might be sick and you want to avoid spreading it to others.

Jabor fucked around with this message at 01:49 on Mar 1, 2020

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I refuse to believe any substantial amount of supermarket shelf pasta sold anywhere outside of the EU is actually made in Italy

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺
I remember being actually shocked seeing a dried pasta brand that claimed to be made in Italy bc I just assumed the idea of packet pasta like that was abhorrent to Italians, like how adjunct sugars in beer are for Germans

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

The doctor video posted a page or so ago makes a good case as to why the masks can actually do more harm then good.

Mozi
Apr 4, 2004

Forms change so fast
Time is moving past
Memory is smoke
Gonna get wider when I die
Nap Ghost
wait a sec

so people are looking for masks

and smoking seems to ward off the illness...

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Fojar38 posted:

Your immune system is a badass and can deal with you missing some spots when handwashing

Not really relevant when you're about to plunge those hands into a person to remove their spleen or whatever

Also, apparently not really relevant when coronavirus is entering your eyeballs

VikingSkull
Jan 23, 2017
Look Viking you're a trash Trump supporter what the fuck makes you think you can have an avatar that isn't what I decide? Shut your fucking trap and go away. Your trolling is tiresome and just shits up the forum.
if smoking warded off the virus someone please explain china to me like you would to a small child

gay picnic defence
Oct 5, 2009


I'M CONCERNED ABOUT A NUMBER OF THINGS

VikingSkull posted:

if smoking warded off the virus someone please explain china to me like you would to a small child

It's probably just smoking weed that protects you, I don't think that's real popular in China

QuarkJets
Sep 8, 2008

Mithaldu posted:

It's idiotic to claim it's pointless unless you consider any situation that isn't 100% protection to be pointless, in which case the face masks are always and ever pointless.

It's pointless* in the sense that any airborne droplets near your nose and mouth will definitely also get in your eyes, bypassing the mask entirely. In that sense you've reduced the effectiveness of the mask to 0%. You may as well be wearing that mask on your elbow.

Kind of like how it's also pointless to wear a mask if you're constantly fidgeting with it and scratching your nose, and it's pointless to reuse the same mask multiple times, etc. If a measure is rendered completely ineffective then it is pointless

* Not pointless if you're already infected and are only trying to prevent infection in others

CRUSTY MINGE
Mar 30, 2011

Peggy Hill
Foot Connoisseur

Mozi posted:

wait a sec

so people are looking for masks

and smoking seems to ward off the illness...



I doubt smoking wards it off. Smoking weed probably wouldn't matter either. Maybe hacking up lung butter a few times a day from hitting the bong helps in terms of contracting it by breathing, but that's not the only point of entry.

Jezza of OZPOS
Mar 21, 2018

GET LOSE❌🗺️, YOUS CAN'T COMPARE😤 WITH ME 💪POWERS🇦🇺

gay picnic defence posted:

It's probably just smoking weed that protects you, I don't think that's real popular in China

gently caress yeah

But I’m close enough to the north coast of nsw that it probably gets balanced out by the unvaccinated rate

Swings and roundabouts

Sucrose
Dec 9, 2009

Jabor posted:

Nah.

Face masks provide no real protection for the person wearing them if they're worn improperly, reused, or you're not also wearing something to protect your eyes.

They're likely to increase your risk of contracting something if wearing one makes you hang around sick people more because you think you're protected. Or if wearing it makes you touch your face more because you're constantly adjusting your mask.

The main reason to wear one is if you might be sick and you want to avoid spreading it to others.

But if everyone is panicked into wearing face masks during an epidemic, then logically some of them will be sick but not know it, and their disease will be stopped from spreading by the face mask.

So it could work, but only if everyone is doing it.

The Walrus
Jul 9, 2002

by Fluffdaddy

Malcolm Turnbeug posted:

I remember being actually shocked seeing a dried pasta brand that claimed to be made in Italy bc I just assumed the idea of packet pasta like that was abhorrent to Italians, like how adjunct sugars in beer are for Germans

dried pasta is really the only way to do a proper marinara where you save some starch water to mix into the sauce to keep it from separating

Bamabalacha
Sep 18, 2006

Outta my way, ya dumb rah-rah!
My boyfriend reports that the Canadian Tire near our house had large pyramids of hand sanitizer, face masks, and disinfectant wipes right at the entrance. There were also apparently signs saying the masks were non-refundable over the entire store.

So we're in the ramp up to panic buying in downtown Toronto, I guess?

DancingShade
Jul 26, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Sucrose posted:

So it could work, but only if everyone is doing it.

Good luck herding those cats.

Dick Bastardly
Aug 22, 2012

Muttley is SKYNET!!!

gay picnic defence posted:

It's probably just smoking weed that protects you, I don't think that's real popular in China

I really really hope this is the case

AKA Pseudonym
May 16, 2004

A dashing and sophisticated young man
Doctor Rope

golden bubble posted:

The latest update from the British nursing professor is up.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rOTz9duXwo

I'd completely missed the news that the Pope was sick. Gonna be wild if famous people start dropping dead along with everybody else, I'm not used to this sort of egalitarianism.

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Mithaldu
Sep 25, 2007

Let's cuddle. :3:

Jabor posted:

Face masks provide no real protection for the person wearing them if they're worn improperly, reused, or you're not also wearing something to protect your eyes.
Ok, so you have to imagine the most idiotic person possible in order to justify calling it pointless.

I agree with you. If the wearer of the mask is indeed completely brainless and receives zero training on the use of equipment, then yes, the equipment is useless.

QuarkJets posted:

It's pointless* in the sense that any airborne droplets near your nose and mouth will definitely also get in your eyes, bypassing the mask entirely. In that sense you've reduced the effectiveness of the mask to 0%. You may as well be wearing that mask on your elbow.

Kind of like how it's also pointless to wear a mask if you're constantly fidgeting with it and scratching your nose, and it's pointless to reuse the same mask multiple times, etc. If a measure is rendered completely ineffective then it is pointless

* Not pointless if you're already infected and are only trying to prevent infection in others
Medical personnel in my social circle tell me you're spouting half knowledge and passing it off as facts.

Particularly the one-use thing is wrong for N95 masks. But here, have a fight with the CDC over it.

https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/topics/hcwcontrols/recommendedguidanceextuse.html

Go on, tell the CDC reusing masks is useless. Have a ball.

quote:

Limited reuse has been recommended and widely used as an option for conserving respirators during previous respiratory pathogen outbreaks and pandemics.

Mithaldu fucked around with this message at 02:42 on Mar 1, 2020

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