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marktheando posted:Data 'saving Picard's life' in Nemesis was actually him beaming over the replacement synth Picard he had secretly made. Real Picard died on Shinzon's ship. The real Picard died way back in Season 1 of TNG in that episode where some freaky energy being took his body for a joyride, and they had to reconstitute an earlier version of him from a pattern in the transporter buffer.
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Speaking of set design and user interfaces, was there ever a reason given that Disco had these awesome hologram comms and they’re never used again over viewscreens other than Lorca didn’t like them? Other than the obvious “lol no way can we retcon these so let’s never mention them again”
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Mar 1, 2020 18:28
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CAPTAIN CAPSLOCK posted:Yes initially it did seem that Jurati was nervous and preoccupied because she didn't know how to work transporters. But later on it's revealed she was acting that way because she's the mole and she would have to kill Maddox. They're fully independent of each other, both can be true. You can be a nervous wreck because you're going to murder your romantic partner and colleague and not be familiar with transporters or know when it's apparently telling you for no reason that one of the things that was setup ahead of time to be transported without your input at all might be a holo-emitter and not a full human being.
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Mar 1, 2020 18:31
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I’m not sure which theory is crazier, Rios being a hologram or the RLM theory that Soji could be a Q
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Mar 1, 2020 18:40
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Maybe the Q are holograms. Really makes you think.
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Mar 1, 2020 18:42
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Martytoof posted:Speaking of set design and user interfaces, was there ever a reason given that Disco had these awesome hologram comms and they’re never used again over viewscreens other than Lorca didn’t like them? Apparently they hosed up the Enterprise, which is why it had to go into repair during S2 and Pike could captain the Disco.
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Mar 1, 2020 18:59
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Technowolf posted:Apparently they hosed up the Enterprise, which is why it had to go into repair during S2 and Pike could captain the Disco. I thought Enterprise was hosed up from scanning the weird alien planet/archive and Pike just wanted the holograms ripped out while they were at it?
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Mar 1, 2020 19:11
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Cojawfee posted:But what if they all died and he's just a hologram recreation. 
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Mar 1, 2020 20:00
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Weren’t the holocommunications the way Control compromised Airiam? I may be misremembering. But I feel like the way the data stream worked allowed Control to compromise Disco in some way.
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Mar 1, 2020 20:16
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Big Mean Jerk posted:I thought Enterprise was hosed up from scanning the weird alien planet/archive and Pike just wanted the holograms ripped out while they were at it? That’s what I’m wondering though. Other than “it’s a tv show get over it” this just seems like disco is the one ship that’s using view screens while everyone else in the federation has badass hologram chat. And everyone in the federation then went ahead and forgot they had awesome holograms by the time TOS and TNT era rolls around Disco is like the one friend you kept your AIM account around for because they wouldn’t go install a better chat app. I know it’s stupid and inconsequential and I’m reading way too much into it but it just makes me laugh how they obviously wrote themselves into something they couldn’t retcon so they just Poochie’d the technology. E: and my bad, I thought it was Lorca not Pike who was the techno luddite. some kinda jackal fucked around with this message at 20:23 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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Mar 1, 2020 20:20
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the interior shots of la sirena remind me of a barn, with the big open space split across two levels and that bridge running across the second level so you can look down to where the hogs sleep. anyway I was looking through ex astris scientia to see some info on it and noticed the guy wrote reviews for all the picard episodes. I had a fun time reading through them, and I'm hoping you will too. http://www.ex-astris-scientia.org/episodes/pic1.htm
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Mar 1, 2020 21:02
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Giggs posted:I hope he is a hologram because that would be dumb and the writers using one of the oldest tropes in modern fiction would be perfectly consistent. Star Trek: Picardo might have been better. Martytoof posted:Speaking of set design and user interfaces, was there ever a reason given that Disco had these awesome hologram comms and they’re never used again over viewscreens other than Lorca didn’t like them? Not really that I can remember from watching, or reading on MA after it came up BECAUSE, oddly enough, there are a couple episodes of DS9 where they use "holographic" communications (because Ron Moore pushed it) on the Defiant and Sisko's office until they realized (Moore included) that they couldn't really pull it off and it added nothing of value.
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The holocommunications on DS9 sucked on the bridge but I do think they would've worked fine in the office or boardroom.
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Mar 1, 2020 21:55
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I am the guy that liked the Disco holograms. No I don't really give a poo poo about visual continuity.
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I'm watching this video about the making of The Mandalorian and I desperately want to see this technology integrated into Star Trek programmes. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbBBUHXPuvg&t=320s Finally you could go to a new planet every week on a relatively low budget and not have it look like ToS or Orville. Even just for interior ship shots it would be incredible.
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Mar 1, 2020 22:04
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Cojawfee posted:But what if they all died and he's just a hologram recreation. All he does is watch that holographic simulation everyday. I have no idea what he thinks.
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Mar 1, 2020 22:08
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:I'm watching this video about the making of The Mandalorian and I desperately want to see this technology integrated into Star Trek programmes. That's a neat utilization of what made 'horizon zero dawn' a technically great game.
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Lovely Joe Stalin posted:Finally you could go to a new planet every week on a relatively low budget and not have it look like ToS or Orville. Even just for interior ship shots it would be incredible. A lesser application, but it'd be awesome to have a screen like that as the bridge main viewscreen done like the excelsior bridge concept and not just ending up with actors trying to act in an endless blue void.  Or even just wrapping like the TNG concept one.  And then the camera can move freely without having to take into account shots which have to be tracked for the viewer. Orville actually does this because they were able to pick up a giant wraparound screen cheap from the Oblivion production. So the windows on the bridge are showing actual images. MikeJF fucked around with this message at 22:17 on Mar 1, 2020 |
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Mar 1, 2020 22:09
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piratepilates posted:Here's a breakdown of all the producer credits the show has on imdb: And Hanelle Culpepper is only credited as a producer because of DGA rules. Pilot directors are always given an EP credit of some kind, either on the episodes they directed or even the entire first season. Look at David Nutter’s entire filmography and you’ll see a poo poo ton of pilot directing coupled with an EP credit for the entire first season or just that episode (it varies). Also Hanelle Culpepper is awesome and I’m happy she got a pilot as big as this one (plus a couple episodes). This show is obviously “cross-boarded.” Meaning that episodes are shot in pairs simultaneously. That’s why the same director is credited two episodes in a row.
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Yeah that tech is incredible. Instead of expensively filming in Iceland they just sent one camera guy for a couple days and did all the 'location' shots in the studio. And having the actors actually be able to see the stuff they are reacting to has to be good for their performances.
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Mar 1, 2020 22:11
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Mando is totally on other levels of production (and all other) quality.
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AntherUslessPoster posted:Mando is totally on other levels of production (and all other) quality. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dm1p9mE9RBw
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The Mandalorian has the benefit of ILM and Jon Favreau behind it, that Favreau specifically has a lot of experience using cutting edge CG techniques for filmmaking. And I'm glad, good for them for raising the bar and improving the state of the art.
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Mar 1, 2020 22:53
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Epicurius posted:Maybe the Q are holograms. Really makes you think. Tiggum posted:Was there a radiation leak from an improperly repaired drive plate?
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Tiggum posted:Maybe everything that happened after the invention of holosuites is just someone playing a video game. Pike never left Talos IV; every episode after "The Cage" is a Talosian illusion.
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Angry Salami posted:Pike never left Talos IV; every episode after "The Cage" is a Talosian illusion. Then that Federation Christopher Pike Medal Of Honor really makes ya think...
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DIS S02E01 is like a whole different show. It's so much better without Ash Tyler, the Klingons, and every episode's plot being "are they going to do bad things because it's easy". The Burnham family storyline is all right, aside from the namedropping of established characters, and I just imagine that the names are changed as long as it can make sense. As the saying goes, reusing characters too often makes the fictional universe feel smaller. The episode had Apollo 13 vibes and Commander Reno's a treasure.
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galenanorth posted:DIS S02E01 is like a whole different show. It's so much better without Ash Tyler, the Klingons, and every episode's plot being "are they going to do bad things because it's easy". The Burnham family storyline is all right if they weren't namedropping established characters, which as the saying goes, makes the fictional universe feel smaller. The episode had Apollo 13 vibes and Commander Reno's a treasure. You uh aren't going to like this season then.
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socialsecurity posted:You uh aren't going to like this season then. You also, ironically, won't like the season if you like science.
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Mar 2, 2020 08:59
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It's just the power of math
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Cojawfee posted:It's just the power of meth
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Yum yum.
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galenanorth posted:aside from the namedropping That's an interesting way to say 'shoehorned as gently caress' or 'forced down our throats so we keep watching' but yeah it gets a bit better with Anson Mount on set.
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MikeJF posted:A lesser application, but it'd be awesome to have a screen like that as the bridge main viewscreen done like the excelsior bridge concept and not just ending up with actors trying to act in an endless blue void. I've never seen this concept before, but this is kinda incredible. Could you imagine sitting in the theater watching ST3, you know what other Starfleet bridges look like, but everyone talks about how different and futuristic Excelsior is, and then we walk onto the bridge and see that? MichiganCubbie fucked around with this message at 17:18 on Mar 2, 2020 |
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The Doctor Who series finale yesterday has really lowered the bar for big secret reveals. As long as the big secret in the Picard Show isn't a stupid as gently caress retcon that shits all over the original show, I'll forgive it being a stupid reveal.
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We've seen more than 2 holos plus Rios actual. We've had : The EMH Emergency Hospitality Program (English accent) Emergency Navigation Program (Irish accent) Emmet (The tactical one. Speaks Spanish) And Rios Actual
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galenanorth posted:The Burnham family storyline is all right, aside from the namedropping of established characters, and I just imagine that the names are changed as long as it can make sense. Watching Discovery with this sort of attitude makes it far more enjoyable.
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marktheando posted:The Doctor Who series finale yesterday has really lowered the bar for big secret reveals. As long as the big secret in the Picard Show isn't a stupid as gently caress retcon that shits all over the original show, I'll forgive it being a stupid reveal. What was their big bar-lowering finale? I'm still working through the first Capaldi season, but I'm open to spoilers about the latest season(s). It's not still Moffat is it?
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It's some new guy who by all accounts made the doctor incredibly bland and boring. I don't know all that happened in the latest episodes, I checked out after this new showrunner did an episode set on Amazon Warehouse Planet where a worker rebelling against the company was killed by the Doctor because Amazon are the good guys. Yeah.
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piratepilates posted:What was their big bar-lowering finale? Turns out the first Doctor wasn't the first, but rather the doctor is an ancient being from another universe with immortality via the ability to regenerate that ancient Gallifreyans studied to engineer regeneration into their own race, and the Doctor had his memory wiped when they became William Hartnell, which is why they think that was the first Doctor. Also they destroyed Gallifrey and the time lords again but totally more permanently this time guys 
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