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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:loving lol I'd expect the opposite; Costco is one of the few high-performing corporations that Wall Street hates, because they do things like pay a livable wage to employees and implement a modicum of quality control on their products Like when a big hurricane is forecast Costco is one of the few places that implement purchase limits on essentials (like water) to a reasonable per-family number, to help ensure that everyone has a chance to get supplies
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QuarkJets posted:I'd expect the opposite; Costco is one of the few high-performing corporations that Wall Street hates, because they do things like pay a livable wage to employees and implement a modicum of quality control on their products Costco is good people, their warehouse model is why disasters turn business to them bulk options for long term survival
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What do you guys think about the german stores that have opened up? I hear that Lidl and Aldi do pay OK wages, is that actually a chain someone would think of in the US tho?
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Does the American expansion of LIDL and ALDI at least let their cashiers still sit versus the North American standard that a retail employee should be standing and miserable at all times
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less than three posted:Does the American expansion of LIDL and ALDI at least let their cashiers still sit versus the North American standard that a retail employee should be standing and miserable at all times Yeah they do
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Mar 1, 2020 10:07
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SSJ_naruto_2003 posted:Yeah they do That's a good enough reason to shop there.
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Mar 1, 2020 10:15
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:loving lol lol the only runs were on toilet paper and water. Actual food? Relatively untouched.
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Mar 1, 2020 11:10
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:It dorsnt matter who they sell to, disasters turn stores upside down nomatter how many people shop there. The last 2 fires I experienced people lined up to get gas a mile down the road, literally drained reg and premium gas. Then mothing happened all was fine. The gas stations still made a giant profit from the hype How do gas stations make more money from that? Isn't that just a huge shifting of purchase time and now that everyone has a full tank of fuel and a bunch of cans full they simply won't be going to the gas station for a while?
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Mar 1, 2020 16:40
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Sodomy Hussein posted:lol the only runs were on toilet paper and water. Actual food? Relatively untouched. Big flats of rice bags too.
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I don’t get the TP thing either. Toilet paper is like the one thing that definitely ain’t going to get its supply chain hosed.
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Mar 1, 2020 17:30
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If you're going to get the runs on something, tp is your best bet.
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Mar 1, 2020 17:41
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Aldi is limited on selection, but I do indeed have less distaste for them because they pay better wages (still not great, but better), let their cashiers sit down (because they have no need to be standing) and make people bring their own reusable bloody bags. They also have excellent prices, for the most part, but I only shop there intermittently because they simply don't offer a lot of things that, for me, are staples.
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Mar 1, 2020 19:09
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poo poo and then immediately take a shower like a real American 🙄
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less than three posted:That's a good enough reason to shop there. Unfortunately sitting all day at work has been linked to bad health outcomes. The ideal scenario would be to have the platform under the cashiers be height adjustable, with a removable chair, and a policy that the cashier is expected to stand by default, but when they get tired they can sit to rest.
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Mar 1, 2020 19:38
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Motronic posted:How do gas stations make more money from that? Isn't that just a huge shifting of purchase time and now that everyone has a full tank of fuel and a bunch of cans full they simply won't be going to the gas station for a while? Former gas station manager here. Our tanks were 7500 and 15000 gallons. If gas was cheap, we'd order to fill the tanks. If gas was expensive, we'd order to replace what we sold. Any time a storm hit, we'd sell out the tanks at market rate and make a huge profit on that gas, then keep selling and buying market rate gas until the crisis was over, at which point we'd buy cheaper gas (the market for wholesale gas bottoms out a couple weeks after a crisis) to refill the tank. Basically if we were selling the bottom half of a tank at market rate basically any time we'd make good money, but when supply would get tight and market rate would rise we could sell the bottom half at 60 or 70% profit rather than the 25% we get for buying and reselling at market rates, and then only refill the bottom half of the tank when the market fell. The entire system was automated, and would only bid on fills if the market was at a fairly remarkable low, so yes, every sell-out event is very profitable for gas stations that buy from the market.
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But what about Mom and Pop gas stations that are refining their own oil?
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human garbage bag posted:Unfortunately sitting all day at work has been linked to bad health outcomes. The ideal scenario would be to have the platform under the cashiers be height adjustable, with a removable chair, and a policy that the cashier is expected to stand by default, but when they get tired they can sit to rest.
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less than three posted:That's a good enough reason to shop there.
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Plastik posted:Former gas station manager here. Was this a smaller independent station? I spent a while at a MajorStoreBrand/MajorOilCompany place and everything involving pricing and sales was pretty opaque to store level staff except for managers having to drive around and record competitor pricing.
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Mar 1, 2020 21:26
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OneEightHundred posted:ALDI is a notoriously demanding place to work. They pay employees above-average for grocery, but they expect them to work their asses off, everything they do is timed, and they only have 2-3 staff at a time handling the entire store. They also expect high on-call availability because of the low staffing levels.
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human garbage bag posted:Unfortunately sitting all day at work has been linked to bad health outcomes. The ideal scenario would be to have the platform under the cashiers be height adjustable, with a removable chair, and a policy that the cashier is expected to stand by default, but when they get tired they can sit to rest. In Europe, most cashiers sit. They have a movable height-adjustable chair and can decide on what they want. Companies shouldn't force weird esoteric stand-up desk beliefs on their employees.
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Goast posted:Was this a smaller independent station? Nope, Wawa. In Florida, so none of the sweet gas deals they've cut up north. We did the driving around recording gas prices, too, and could manually change our gas price if necessary, but yes it was handled centrally by the time I was was hired. We knew what the strategy was though, both because corporate loved cheerleaders and because the old, manual fuel system had never been decommissioned, and you could look at the value in the tanks, costs of deliveries, things like that. You couldn't order fuel anymore, as that was automated, but you could see everything, with histories up to a year. I've been gone awhile, and I know they're changing their systems out, I wonder if that's still visible to a store.
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I need to stop thinking that any employer in the service sector is even slightly better than any other. End of the day, they will work their employees to the bone and hire as few people as possible, even if it's to the detriment of those working.
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I had a great experience my 5 years at Trader Joes but that was at a specific store so YMMV
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cr0y posted:poo poo and then immediately take a shower like a real American 🙄 A real American would poo poo in the shower and waffle stomp it down the drain, saves valuable minutes.
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Solaris 2.0 posted:I had a great experience my 5 years at Trader Joes but that was at a specific store so YMMV Putting aside exploiting the proletariat, my personality is badly adapted to that kind of work. This is at least partially due to the fact that I have had to do it so often due to lack of options, so I am biased. I envy and yet am amazed/horrified by people who enjoy that sort of thing.
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JustJeff88 posted:I need to stop thinking that any employer in the service sector is even slightly better than any other. End of the day, they will work their employees to the bone and hire as few people as possible, even if it's to the detriment of those working. This is flat wrong. Majority of people work at small businesses and each can be very different in treatment. Ive neen in businesses run with employees first. It isnt a rarity when yiu look at more than was f500 does.
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JustJeff88 posted:I need to stop thinking that any employer in the service sector is even slightly better than any other. End of the day, they will work their employees to the bone and hire as few people as possible, even if it's to the detriment of those working. Uh, I mean Costco for example really clearly treats their employees better.
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Yeah, capitalism and all that, but some service employers are provably better than others
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costco treats their employees "okay", not any good when compared to european countries though. now if you are deciding between target or walmart you go to the place that has the cheapest. as they are both horrible
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human garbage bag posted:Unfortunately sitting all day at work has been linked to bad health outcomes. The ideal scenario would be to have the platform under the cashiers be height adjustable, with a removable chair, and a policy that the cashier is expected to stand by default, but when they get tired they can sit to rest. No, not moving has been linked to bad health outcomes. You can sit at work all day, but if you move in your free time, that's perfectly fine. Trying to co-link health with not sitting is just another insidious way companies want to
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Decius posted:No, not moving has been linked to bad health outcomes. You can sit at work all day, but if you move in your free time, that's perfectly fine. Trying to co-link health with not sitting is just another insidious way companies want to Putting aside the pretentious condescension of this "post", some people have additional issues. Right at the start of 2019, I started to have worrying pains in my lower back like I've never had before. Long story short is that I have a cracked 2nd lumbar vertebrae, and I can no longer stand for long periods of time. I was supposed to have a minor procedure for the pain, but due to my insurance loving me around for months and months and one phenomenally bad coincidence, I never had it. I am probably going to have to get a job to top up my wages while I am "off" during the summer. Putting aside the damage to my self-esteem, I don't know how I am going to find any work as the only jobs out there are bullshit service jobs that involve long hours being on my feet, which I can't do anymore. I've heard a number of people talk about doing temporary office/government work, and I always wonder how they managed it. I've looked and looked for jobs like that, but every time I've had to resort to temporary work it always ends up being some kind of stand-up service-sector gig.
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Decius posted:No, not moving has been linked to bad health outcomes. You can sit at work all day, but if you move in your free time, that's perfectly fine. Trying to co-link health with not sitting is just another insidious way companies want to This is a weird take, kind of biotruthy. All available research, including research by Harvard and The Mayo Clinic, indicates that hours spent sitting per day directly correlates with lumbar pain, poor cardiovascular health outcomes, and an increased risk for diabetes. Prolonged static sitting is not good, and as activities go it's one of the newer human ones so that's not super surprising. Also, the exercise and diet issues you mention (overconsumption of sugars and fats) are a product of the types of food made easily available to the consumer. It's true that we should all read labels and cook as much as possible and exercise more, but it's deeply disingenuous to claim that it's reasonably possible when a historic number of Americans are working multiple jobs to stay in poverty. All of those things require a time investment, and eating food with a better macronutrient balance requires more money no matter how much anyone tries to deny that. The cheapest food available is absolutely awful, but if it's all you can afford then it's hard to argue with.
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Please preach us more about the gospel of the standing desk and why retail workers don't deserve chairs. If we're being honest, retail workers should actually have to pay to be allowed to work, considering all the great exercise they're getting! The Mayo clinic said so!
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If you have time to lean you have time to clean! Every hated retail manager, ever.
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Lambert posted:Please preach us more about the gospel of the standing desk and why retail workers don't deserve chairs. If we're being honest, retail workers should actually have to pay to be allowed to work, considering all the great exercise they're getting! The Mayo clinic said so! It's weird that you equivocate sitting all day being bad and standing desks becoming the norm, but they're not the same. Ideally you'd have an adjustable desk or a separate workstation where you could stand. The problem is butts in seats for hours, but I doubt that stationary standing for hours would be loads better. And I'm confused, I thought you were mad about people selling you desks under false health pretenses and now standing desks are oppression?
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Plastik posted:Prolonged static sitting is not good, and as activities go it's one of the newer human ones so that's not super surprising. Prolonged static standing probably fits in that category too, though. If you want to go biotruths about it, look at what animals do. There's activity, there's sitting (not on furniture specifically designed for it), there's lying down. There's no "dog chair" nor do dogs or any other animals just stand up straight and do nothing else for long periods of time. I find standing basically motionless for a long period of time uncomfortable, but if I'm walking, or doing something that engages my muscles, it's no problem. I get tired, obviously, but it's not physically stressful the way long periods of just standing in one place would be. Sitting or standing, I don't think we're meant to be stationary or nearly stationary for long periods of time outside of sleeping.
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PT6A posted:Prolonged static standing probably fits in that category too, though. If you want to go biotruths about it, look at what animals do. There's activity, there's sitting (not on furniture specifically designed for it), there's lying down. There's no "dog chair" nor do dogs or any other animals just stand up straight and do nothing else for long periods of time. I have that as well, and I'm sure that you are in much better shape than I am. Walking around is a lot less stressful for me and, while it will fatigue me, it's not nearly as bad as standing in place. It still will exacerbate my lower back pain given enough time, but it takes quite a bit longer than standing still.
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Solaris 2.0 posted:If you have time to lean you have time to clean! Well I haven't seen you do any loving cleaning, and I certainly don't see you doing any work, Chuck.
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JustJeff88 posted:I have that as well, and I'm sure that you are in much better shape than I am. Maybe, maybe not. I have mild cerebral palsy, so I don't know if that affects it significantly or not. But realistically, that's an important point: lots of people are not in perfect physical shape, or have conditions which affect their mobility or ability to stand/sit long-term, and employers' expectations should ideally reflect the fact that what is best for one person may not be best for another person.
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