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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

RockyB posted:

E: Also a 12 year old NBC suit ain't gonna do poo poo, obviously. I think the effective lifetime once out of the vacuum pack was a couple of days.
Depends on the type of suit and what you're using it for. The old Soviet treated rubber ones should be good for most chemical hazards for decades if you duct tape any ingress points, with the downside that they're completely non-breathable and so you sweat like a Peer in a preschool after 5 minutes of moderate activity.

Anything with fancy filters, or modern tyvek or whatever ones, and the activated filters in the respirator itself of course, and yeah you're right.

e: 'ks sake. The Service Respirator No.8 was a gas mask developed for the British Army, but unlike the earlier S6 or later S10 never saw widespread adoption.

Guavanaut fucked around with this message at 22:35 on Mar 2, 2020

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
I had a dream last night that the cold I've had for the past three weeks was, in fact, the coronavirus, and I alone had infected like a thousand people all by myself.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Don't they still make new filters for old soviet GP5s and poo poo?

fuctifino
Jun 11, 2001



e: JRM repeating a Cummings inspired rhyme? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f727NW9KeuA

fuctifino fucked around with this message at 23:43 on Mar 2, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Don't they still make new filters for old soviet GP5s and poo poo?
They still made new oxygen generator/CO2 scrubber cannisters for the IP5 into the 2010s at least, so I'd imagine less esoteric ones are still being made.

Or if not at least compatible ones in China.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Guavanaut posted:

They still made new oxygen generator/CO2 scrubber cannisters for the IP5 into the 2010s at least, so I'd imagine less esoteric ones are still being made.

Or if not at least compatible ones in China.

Hmmm, yes... about that

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Well if they stopped at any point they've probably started again now.

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Stitch together your own NBC suit entirely out of GP-5s. More filters means more protection.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
What gets me about the 8 in 1600 figure is that they didn't simplify it.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

OwlFancier posted:

Stitch together your own NBC suit entirely out of GP-5s. More filters means more protection.
Plus it makes using the facilities a lot easier than the rubber suits if you're suitably bedonged, just unscrew one of the filters.

e: ^^ That's almost 9 in 1800!

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


I'm back to quitting weed after relapsing hardcore the night of the election

Anyway whoever says weed isn't addictive is stupid as hell, the withdrawals were so bad the last 2 days I thought I'd got the plague

Anyway back on it. Usually about 5 weeks until my brain works right again so excuse my posts

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

fuctifino posted:

e: JRM repeating a Cummings inspired rhyme? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f727NW9KeuA

Not unless Cummings is even older than he looks, it's a fairly famous 50s public health campaign. I (and almost certainly he) know it from The Blood Donor:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qmBivUlPXE&t=582s

HopperUK
Apr 29, 2007

Why would an ambulance be leaving the hospital?
Painted a meadow instead of worrying about the virus



just kidding I did both! We've sold out of hand sanitiser (it won't save you)! people keep coming in and asking about face masks (ditto)! Good times.

Not So Fast
Dec 27, 2007


https://www.theguardian.com/society/commentisfree/2020/mar/02/women-must-have-the-right-to-organise-we-will-not-be-silenced

The Guardian is indistinguisable from the Daily Mail at this point when it comes to trans issues. Good loving lord.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


The guardian is awful, the only good thing it used to have was foreign policy stuff and then the brownshirts smashed all their stuff and they joined the D notice national security committee and now it's entirely poo poo.

It's not quite as bad as MSNBC or Fox poisoning but it's very obvious my centrist dad's entire view of the UK is just whatever the guardian is writing about.

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT
All I can ask is that everyone please stop panicking. If you have a compromised immune system then use all resources that you can to stay indoors for as long as possible if you cannot shake the anxiety. There is literally nothing anyone can do to stop if spreading, not even the most god brain of the most technocratic government in the world.

The worst part is it’ll be over quicker if people get exposed to it sooner, but that is no consolation to the old, infirm and vulnerable. Also remember if you are a twenty two year old poster on this forum you may well get it and recover without ever knowing, so in that case be considerate of others and assume you could give it to others.

Aipsh fucked around with this message at 00:35 on Mar 3, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
Is this about the corona virus or the Guardian?

Regarde Aduck
Oct 19, 2012

c l o u d k i t t e n
Grimey Drawer

Not So Fast posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/commentisfree/2020/mar/02/women-must-have-the-right-to-organise-we-will-not-be-silenced

The Guardian is indistinguisable from the Daily Mail at this point when it comes to trans issues. Good loving lord.

Noooo it's Suzanne Moore's stupid face!

Look at it. Just look at it.

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Not So Fast posted:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/commentisfree/2020/mar/02/women-must-have-the-right-to-organise-we-will-not-be-silenced

The Guardian is indistinguisable from the Daily Mail at this point when it comes to trans issues. Good loving lord.

As a trans person I was worried for a bit that a woman's place was a transphobic hate group, but now this cis lady has told me that they aren't so that's fine. everything is fine

Guavanaut posted:

Is this about the corona virus or the Guardian?

I think it's the virus, I've seen many otherwise healthy twenty-two year olds become terminally infected with the Guardian

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
https://twitter.com/CoronavirusCast/status/1234481448205176832

Oh goody!

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
The Guardian is terminally shite in a lot of ways, but slightly less shite than every other mainstream media outlet we currently have going. At least they occasionally let an interesting voice or attempt at actual journalism surface, gasping for air.

Let's be honest even 'balanced' articles from the BBC end up feeling very TERF adjacent, like their headline from this morning.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51676020

quote:

NHS gender clinic 'should have challenged me more' over transition

RockyB fucked around with this message at 00:55 on Mar 3, 2020

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

ThomasPaine posted:

Lord almighty, I know I am not allowed to post any links but Shaun Lawson is somehow STILL melting down on twitter lmao

It's quite incredible, his support for Starmer has led him down the meltiest possible path to the point where he is making electability and "real world" arguments against Sanders. He's absolutely lost it. A few days ago he had a thread apologising for being blinkered and I thought he'd get better but lmao nope.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

RockyB posted:

The Guardian is terminally shite in a lot of ways, but slightly less shite than every other mainstream media outlet we currently have going. At least they occasionally let an interesting voice or attempt at actual journalism to surface, gasping for air.

Let's be honest even 'balanced' articles from the BBC end up feeling very TERF adjacent, like their headline from this morning.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51676020

quote:

Lawyers will argue children cannot give informed consent to treatment delaying puberty
So... who can? Are they going to make the claim that only post-pubescent people can consent to puberty blockers? Because uh :psyduck:

Also I'm getting very strong natalist vibes from that Guardian piece:

quote:

Female oppression is innately connected to our ability to reproduce.

quote:

How did we arrive at a situation where there are shocking and rising numbers of teenage girls presenting at specialist clinics with gender dysphoria, while some who have transitioned are now regretful and infertile?

Maybe Julio Cabrera is right about that whole thing, or at the least maybe Sophie Lewis is v:shobon:v

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Munin posted:

Their shoutout of "harassment works" last episode was probably not the best humorous pushback against the :decorum: argument.

[edit] I am sure the NYT hit piece is full of dumb but there are definite reasons why you might not be into Chapo's brand of discourse.

Actually it's good, being mean to shitbrained libs on twitter got Kamala to drop out lol

OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

I suppose lawson has a plan insofar as you can't die of coronavirus if you have melted into the core of the earth.

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Aidan_702 posted:

There is literally nothing anyone can do to stop if spreading, not even the most god brain of the most technocratic government in the world.

oh really???¿

https://mobile.twitter.com/owillis/status/1234607697540063234

WhatEvil
Jun 6, 2004

Can't get no luck.

RockyB posted:

The Guardian is terminally shite in a lot of ways, but slightly less shite than every other mainstream media outlet we currently have going. At least they occasionally let an interesting voice or attempt at actual journalism surface, gasping for air.

Let's be honest even 'balanced' articles from the BBC end up feeling very TERF adjacent, like their headline from this morning.
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51676020

Uhhh

https://twitter.com/JessicaLond0n/status/1234606350585548801?s=20

Coohoolin
Aug 5, 2012

Oor Coohoolie.

Borrovan posted:

Beavertown & Camden Town breweries are union busters. Pass it on.

Oh, & blackballing is back

Info pls? My coop stocks one of the Beavertowns and as we're IWW affiliated that's obviously Not Good.

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good

Yeah but as far as we know the Graun isn't complicit in a police cover up of decades of grooming and paedophilia. So... slightly less poo poo :shrug:?

E: Have some Guardian adjacent solidarity. I like to think he just scowls bitchily at Moore until she leaves the room.

https://twitter.com/OwenJones84/status/1234602769543311360?s=19

RockyB fucked around with this message at 01:29 on Mar 3, 2020

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Coohoolin posted:

Actually it's good, being mean to shitbrained libs on twitter got Kamala to drop out lol

Nah, don't support the fash, don't support racists, and don't support harassers. Of course a lot was the conservatives and liberals call harassment isn't, same as a lot of what is being called antisemitism isn't, but that doesn't mean it should yay antisemites and yay harassers who both make libs and cons melt down.

The meltdowns achieved winning traction, votes, and arguments are all the sweeter anyway. Chris Matthews apparently walked out of Hardball before he was pushed after he had that huge meltdown over Sanders winning Nevada. I personally found that quite funny.

[edit] gently caress all the TERFy poo poo at the Guardian.

"trans people, part of the patriarchy amirite"

Munin fucked around with this message at 02:36 on Mar 3, 2020

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

Extensive twitter thread on why Chapo can get tae gently caress, tl;dr:

quote:

And here's where Occupy comes in, because I cannot think of a better object lesson in the dangers of giving quarter to the kind of white men that show up on third base with no creds, grab the mic, then steal home and demand a victory party.
...
See, it's this weird thing we on the Left REALLY don't talk about publicly because it's REALLY loving embarrassing that we skillshared with a bunch of these dudes and they hosed off and then...

Then they founded Daily Stormer.

Then they organized Unite the Right.

I'm not being hyperbolic.

Weev of Daily Stormer was an Occupier.

Jason Kessler, the organizer of Unite the Right, traces his organizing career back to Occupy.

We watched this poo poo happen in realtime in Philly, as the Anonymous dudes & opportunists hosed off to the Rand Paul "Reasonable Solutions" tent in white boy tantrums.

We watched them suddenly become real open about their thoughts on the Jews and the Illuminati.

Trin Tragula fucked around with this message at 03:08 on Mar 3, 2020

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

Trin Tragula posted:

Extensive twitter thread on why Chapo can get tae gently caress, tl;dr:

It’s a very nice meltdown

Crayfish
May 7, 2009

Trin Tragula posted:

Extensive twitter thread on why Chapo can get tae gently caress, tl;dr:

Christ almighty, what a load of shite.

ThomasPaine
Feb 4, 2009

We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Trin Tragula posted:

Extensive twitter thread on why Chapo can get tae gently caress, tl;dr:

93/

lol sorry no thanks

Trin Tragula
Apr 22, 2005

I mean, assuming "they're thick as mince" isn't a good enough argument, which should be patently obvious from how much stock they put in "Just elect Bernie" when anyone with half a brain can see his platform's going to get entirely torpedoed by the Senate if he does manage to win

Blasmeister
Jan 15, 2012




2Time TRP Sack Race Champion

Trin Tragula posted:

I mean, assuming "they're thick as mince" isn't a good enough argument, which should be patently obvious from how much stock they put in "Just elect Bernie" when anyone with half a brain can see his platform's going to get entirely torpedoed by the Senate if he does manage to win

You've clearly never listened to chapo, as they are both fully aware of this and often talk about how their best hopes for a Sanders presidency is highlighting the need for a complete overhaul of the system as the current one can't be relied on to get things done.

Crayfish
May 7, 2009

ThomasPaine posted:

93/

lol sorry no thanks

100 and 101 are pretty good.
Chapo is white supremacist, you know? And words don't have meaning anymore

Munin
Nov 14, 2004


Trin Tragula posted:

Extensive twitter thread on why Chapo can get tae gently caress, tl;dr:

Well, that seems to be a bit of a non-sequitur.

What argument are you trying to make here? Chapo people = weev? Because you need to actually frame an argument in that case as opposed to just dropping a loving long twitter thread about some shitheads who went hard right during and after occupy.

Trin Tragula posted:

I mean, assuming "they're thick as mince" isn't a good enough argument, which should be patently obvious from how much stock they put in "Just elect Bernie" when anyone with half a brain can see his platform's going to get entirely torpedoed by the Senate if he does manage to win
Don't drop another argument before cleaning up your last one.

Munin fucked around with this message at 03:50 on Mar 3, 2020

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ronya
Nov 8, 2010

I'm the normal one.

You hate ridden fucks will regret your words when you eventually grow up.

Peace.

Trin Tragula posted:

Extensive twitter thread on why Chapo can get tae gently caress, tl;dr:

that concept of "Day 2 preachers" reminds me a little of the great pitched battle between the 1990s revived Anti-Nazi League and Wadsworth's/Livingstone's/Abbott's Anti-Racist Alliance

ARA held black and Asian leadership as paramount (it maintained a 50/50 non-white/white leadership policy); the ANL did not, and this led to much intra-left warfare (ARA co-chair Ken Livingstone describing the new ANL: "a typical white-led attempt to steal the thunder from a black-led initiative"... that criticism bears a little resemblance, perhaps

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