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to be fair I think this argument is actually useful for this thread as the Alt right can also be used as a weapon for people someone doesn’t personally like
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LordSaturn posted:chapo weirdos gtfo, nobody cares about your new york media mutants Today's twitter threads are tomorrow's cross burnings. I feel like it is in the right place.
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reading her thread it seems her problem is that they are very popular and are reaching people unfamiliar with leftism but are more concerned with class and economic issues than intersectionality. sounds like a personal problem to me
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CharlestheHammer posted:that doesn’t make her perfect either. I was being somewhat sarcastic (only somewhat, because she spends a seriously large portion of that thread going over her credentials) I'm not actually that familiar with her or interested in her argument, if there's one thing that makes my eyes glaze over it's deep critiques of specific pundits who themselves I already can't get interested in for real my soul is leaving my body, check it out 
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four of the threads I follow are talking about this now, and any response that isn't agreeing with the ppl who bring it up is met with "wow, defensive much?" and "please stop this derail"
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CharlestheHammer posted:that doesn’t make her perfect either. Not really. As I understand it, the main argument is "motherfuckers!, I've seen what latent strasserism in comedy leftism can do, and how the class-only instead of class-first horseshoe spits out nazbols in the end" Which is actually correct. I've seen this first hand both in Genoa two decades ago and Athens a decade ago. What I don't really get is how CTH comes in to this. Mainly because I don't listen to them much. Seeing the complete yikes replies to her thread though is starting to give me an idea.
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Oh I don't think it's a big surprise that there are some absolute loving wackadoos that call themselves leftists, don't get me wrong e: look at all the people sniffing after Aimee Terese e.g.
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Dante80 posted:Not really. As I understand it, the main argument is "motherfuckers!, I've seen what latent strasserism in comedy leftism can do, and how the class-only instead of class-first horseshoe spits out nazbols in the end" a big part of her argument relies on specifically calling out white males as some exclusive bloc I don’t hate Idpol as much as mist here but this is the bad version of it
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I dismissed chapo, and the "dirtbag left" for years, thought they were awful just from the way people described. Actually listened to a couple shows lately and realized that it's extremely tame. Any time they're ranting about idpol it's not about intersectional stuff, mostly liberal 'woke' idpol. The "we need more women ceos" nonsense. Seems harmless to me but I'm too young to have been around protests for decades so 
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I, too, love to have to chase greasy white boys out of my leftist spaces every time I think a podcast millionaire might not be helpful to working class solidarity. nothing on Chapo is worth defending, begone EDIT: the problem is almost certainly not the actual podcast, but insufferable motherfuckers who will absolutely not see its name tarnished
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Mar 3, 2020 00:18
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my leftist spaces
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Mar 3, 2020 00:21
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CharlestheHammer posted:a big part of her argument relies on specifically calling out white males as some exclusive bloc Maybe I'm not getting this because I'm European, but it really seems to me like there is a misunderstanding here. I live in a tamely racist white religious patriarchy (Greece). Identity politics is loving good. It always was. The fact that - as I understand it - a strain of your capitalists in the US has weaponized idle IdPol as a way to keep you voting against your class does not mean that any or every criticism about IdPol is coming from the ironic right or results in its propagation. And again, a big part of her argument is real life. I've seen this poo poo like Occupy happen too.
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Dante80 posted:Maybe I'm not getting this because I'm European, but it really seems to me like there is a misunderstanding here. idpol is basically used that by dismissing groups when it is useful. idpol is more useful as an advocacy tool rather than as a way to tear down other groups in my opinion
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Mar 3, 2020 00:26
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the problem is the comedy podcast turning people on to leftism, not the idpol fanatics seeing potential nazbols everywhere and bringing up the fact that chapo is white every time they complain
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Mar 3, 2020 00:26
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Flavius Aetass posted:the problem is the comedy podcast turning people on to leftism, not the idpol fanatics seeing potential nazbols everywhere and bringing up the fact that chapo is white every time they complain
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Mar 3, 2020 00:27
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MaxieSatan posted:why are we arguing about a liberal's take on a particular group of leftists in the alt-right thread to begin with no one is, they just keep bringing them up lol
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Mar 3, 2020 01:09
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Dante80 posted:Well sure but this is the alt-right thread and she gives a pretty cool inside story on how the Occupy movement got co-opted. You might want to invest the...10' sometime in the future, it's worth it. No thanks
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Mar 3, 2020 01:10
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i was at a chapo show last friday and lol if the description from online 'leftists' about them and their listeners are completely off and wrong, almost as if its purposely wrong
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LordSaturn posted:EDIT: the problem is almost certainly not the actual podcast, but insufferable motherfuckers who will absolutely not see its name tarnished This is a serious thing. I don't really care about the podcast (it's kind of obnoxious but whatever, there's a million podcasts I don't listen to) but I'm extremely sick of how every time somebody criticizes them on Twitter and they notice there's suddenly a hundred dipshits calling them names and telling them they're liberals who hate poor people and so on. Sometimes I've seen them get pushback from their fans (like a couple of weeks ago when one of them decided a Jewish socialist identifying with Bundism is "cringe") but mostly it's just a swarm of assholes imposing a cost on criticizing then.
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Juul-Whip posted:my leftist spaces Lol
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Pope Guilty posted:This is a serious thing. I don't really care about the podcast (it's kind of obnoxious but whatever, there's a million podcasts I don't listen to) but I'm extremely sick of how every time somebody criticizes them on Twitter and they notice there's suddenly a hundred dipshits calling them names and telling them they're liberals who hate poor people and so on. Sometimes I've seen them get pushback from their fans (like a couple of weeks ago when one of them decided a Jewish socialist identifying with Bundism is "cringe") but mostly it's just a swarm of assholes imposing a cost on criticizing then. yeah but chapo fans are dumb as poo poo
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Mar 3, 2020 01:22
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Good luck to you guys fixing twitter and embarrassing fandom by whining and crying about it
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We need to have a national conversation about podcasts
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Mar 3, 2020 01:24
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i insanely do not care if people on twitter are mean to other people on twitter
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Siljmonster posted:i was at a chapo show last friday and lol if the description from online 'leftists' about them and their listeners are completely off and wrong, almost as if its purposely wrong
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Pope Guilty posted:This is a serious thing. I don't really care about the podcast (it's kind of obnoxious but whatever, there's a million podcasts I don't listen to) but I'm extremely sick of how every time somebody criticizes them on Twitter and they notice there's suddenly a hundred dipshits calling them names and telling them they're liberals who hate poor people and so on. Sometimes I've seen them get pushback from their fans (like a couple of weeks ago when one of them decided a Jewish socialist identifying with Bundism is "cringe") but mostly it's just a swarm of assholes imposing a cost on criticizing then.
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Pope Guilty posted:This is a serious thing. I don't really care about the podcast (it's kind of obnoxious but whatever, there's a million podcasts I don't listen to) but I'm extremely sick of how every time somebody criticizes them on Twitter and they notice there's suddenly a hundred dipshits calling them names and telling them they're liberals who hate poor people and so on. Sometimes I've seen them get pushback from their fans (like a couple of weeks ago when one of them decided a Jewish socialist identifying with Bundism is "cringe") but mostly it's just a swarm of assholes imposing a cost on criticizing then. you should see what happens when you criticize chapo on the forums!!
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Mar 3, 2020 02:13
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Siljmonster posted:chapo fans are dumb as poo poo
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Yeowch!!! My Balls!!! posted:aren't you the guy who called AOC "latina khaleesi" to own the Bros
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Mar 3, 2020 02:56
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this is true, but chapo themselves (minus the girl chapo) are decent folks
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Mar 3, 2020 02:59
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I mean there are no good fans let’s be real
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CharlestheHammer posted:I mean there are no good fans let’s be real Bob Ross had great fans.
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quote:The Twitch streams created a new interest in Bob Ross from the younger generation, and caused his popularity to grow.[16] His videos became popular with devotees of the autonomous sensory meridian response (ASMR).[13] ASMR refers to a euphoric feeling, which can be experienced in a variety of ways; triggers can be aural, touch-based or both.[52] "He's sort of the godfather of ASMR," says Joan Kowalski, the president of Bob Ross Inc. "People were into Bob Ross for ASMR reasons before there was ASMR." Oh, for fucks sake!!!
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Mar 3, 2020 03:09
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Juul-Whip posted:i mean, tim pool is way more popular than chapo, he was one of those insufferable bros at occupy, he still poses as "centre left", he sells Jim Bakker slop buckets and his content is actually fash. So in her infinite wisdom and cred this woman decides to go after... a few nice boys who never set out to become popular or successful and are empirically not grifters but they committed the unforgivable crime of saying something is "retarded" or w/e Were there any Occupy people that didn't turn out either Dark Enlightenment or full on fash
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Feldegast42 posted:Were there any Occupy people that didn't turn out either Dark Enlightenment or full on fash yeah they moved onto DSA and went full on lib
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Mar 3, 2020 03:25
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Dante80 posted:Bob Ross had great fans. Bob Ross was on Twitch and therefore a gamer
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Mar 3, 2020 03:34
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Alan Smithee posted:Bob Ross was on Twitch and therefore a gamer Bob Ross Has Gamer Moment on Stream?! Click here!
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Bob Ross is good. CTH is annoying and everyone crawling out of the woodwork to defend their honor are insufferable twats. ASMR is about getting sound boners Thank you for your time.
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