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papa horny michael posted:and healthcare, and numerous other items. it's essentially what he did to hillary! If this thing comes down to who gets most olds, Trump can run on expansion or protecting SS/Medicare and running ad after ad of Biden talking about gutting them. That with dementia poo poo probably a good strat.
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MeatwadIsGod posted:I feel like I've been vacillating between resolve and despair all day. I keep wondering if there's some campaign decisions that could have changed this outcome, especially Bernie's deficiencies with older and rural voters which wasn't as big of a problem in 2016. Maybe if he had messaged being closer to FDR or emphasized the Veteran's bill, the community health centers amendment, his amendments in Congress in TV ads. Or if he'd been going hard on Biden's SS and bankruptcy records in ads since Iowa. Thinking about the totality of it is just getting me really bummed out since while the campaign is shifting gears a bit now it may be too little too late. I was feeling more optimistic this morning but now I don't know. The bad campaign decision was we all thought Biden was dead and the Clyburn endorsement wouldn't matter. I'm pessimistic myself but even in the worst-case scenario it will just be Joe with a heavily Bernie-influenced platform. That's why it's important to run up the score and get delegates. Also it's nice we can concentrate all our fire on Biden now. Bernie or Bust (your centrist candidate).
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lmao if she ends up being his vp or secretary of treasury
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Terror Sweat posted:The issue is that Bernie and Biden won’t reach 50 plus 1, then it gets given to Biden fighting biden tooth and nail is a moral obligation to me it'll be harder to burn this fucker down if biden gets a first ballot majority no matter what happens after, so while I haven't given up on Bernie getting a plurality, or even an outside hope at a full majority, denying biden's convention first ballot coronation is straight up worth the fight
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e: nvm these dnc rules are hard
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she is definitely trying to get a vp position out of this
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wonder what plump position will be conceded to the snake
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Terror Sweat posted:The issue is that Bernie and Biden won’t reach 50 plus 1, then it gets given to Biden Unless Warren or Tulsi gets a miraculous boost of support and start being viable consistently, I think someone is very likely to get to %50.01 percent
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Ora Tzo posted:But the lack of youth turnout is concerning, reminds me of what happened to corbs. No poo poo? Bernie’s entire strategy was a surge of young voters and well, they don’t exist.
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Honestly its too late and the damage is done, but if she endorses Bernie at least she probably wont be primaried and we MIGHT get some shifts in Biden's policies (i will still not vote for him)
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Yinlock posted:resolve is the correct one, things are bad but it's not the ABSOLUTE BLOWOUT the establishment wants you to think You realize it doesnt have to be an absolute blowout, right? Literally the only way bernie survives to get nomimated and elected is with a massive groundswell of support that I haven't seen happening in this fash, assbackward hellhole country.
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back you plebs! back down into the gutter I say!!
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If this ends up coming together and if she ends up being key in delivering a Bernie victory, that would be a hell of a thing Those are pretty big ifs, though, and she already did so much damage. We could have won TX, MA, and MN if it weren't for her doomed vanity campaign
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Ora Tzo posted:But the lack of youth turnout is concerning, reminds me of what happened to corbs. This whole thing is a corbs replay but filtered through the American primary system Including the dawning realisation that the campaign might not actually be doing the right things when you already have everything stacked against you. Especially the whole "so many donations, I'm phone banking too, let's canvas!" stuff and then just being crushed because that doesn't create support. And the explosive turnout of the opposition to gently caress you. So far it isn't as bad but I was getting flashbacks all last night lol especially from The Hill stream. Buncha media lefties going "this certainly is *interesting*" isn't it. Hmm."
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Spergin Morlock posted:lmao if she ends up being his vp or secretary of treasury Make her Treasury Secretary, fire her the first time she does something that he doesn't like. secretaries are easy to replace and she'll be too gutless to do anything about it after its happened
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Do it Warren. Start your redemption arc. DO IT
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Raskolnikov38 posted:remove 771 delegates from the equation as they are super delegates wait no they're already excluded. gently caress this might be more possible than i thought
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Or just lie to her like Hillary did.
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Raskolnikov38 posted:remove 771 delegates from the equation as they are super delegates The race is incredibly close and a tiny amount of delegates were wasted before they consolidated it to a one on one. Why would Bernie need to win a huge majority? EDIT: Yeah there are 3979 pledged, and 771 unpledged, for a total of 4750 only in the event of a contested convention.
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WarEternal posted:You realize it doesnt have to be an absolute blowout, right? Literally the only way bernie survives to get nomimated and elected is with a massive groundswell of support that I haven't seen happening in this fash, assbackward hellhole country. considering how hard biden had to cheat just to break even i'd say that support exists
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papa horny michael posted:is this succ? ralph nader is the anti-succ
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And honestly since the damage is done the DNC might as well just give the go ahead for her to endorse Bernie since it'll make it look like Not the entire establishment had knives out against him
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Entenzahn posted:Do it Warren. Start your redemption arc. lol
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Warren still sucks but if she drops out before the weekend and endorses Bernie i wont complain about her, especially when there are like 40 other dem senators who are way worse
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Spergin Morlock posted:lmao if she ends up being his vp or secretary of treasury yeah, that'd be great 
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I think y'all are underestimating how effective she could be as an attack dog on Biden. The media would have to pay attention
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Raskolnikov38 posted:wait no they're already excluded. gently caress this might be more possible than i thought like i said, bad but not unsalvageably bad it's gonna be a fight
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whatis posted:ralph nader is the anti-succ Unsucc at any speed
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just lmao if after all this warren does a full 180 and trains her billionaire-destroying snake powers fully on Joe Biden
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Martman posted:Am I just bad at math or the rules or something? Superdelegates are unpledged, and only relevant in the event of the contested convention. Why do all the websites say there are 3979 pledged delegates? yeah you're right and i'm not
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Entenzahn posted:The bad campaign decision was we all thought Biden was dead and the Clyburn endorsement wouldn't matter. There's not much Bernie could have done against Obama making the calls to force Pete and Klob out of the race and behind him. He could have hit more fire against Biden early on but it wouldn't have mattered since clearly the party is interested in ramming Biden through no matter how unfit and awful a candidate he is. The SC democratic machine is entirely old church ladies who will never vote for anything remotely left wing and they turn out every single time (except for the general election, apparently. weird how that happens). But yes, we're far from finished. This wasn't gonna be easy and we got whupped in a lot of states we thought we'd do well in but things are tightening up and if we keep focusing fire on Biden's senility and his truly horrible record with social security and bankruptcy, we still have a decent shot at this.
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Mantis42 posted:Or just lie to her like Hillary did. or Obama did lol
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just accept you live in a society and embrace your inner joker
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Does anyone have the quote where Bloomberg said he'd be damned before he'd drop out? I really should've saved that.
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Percelus posted:just accept you live in a society and embrace your inner joker 
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Shipon posted:There's not much Bernie could have done against Obama making the calls to force Pete and Klob out of the race and behind him. He could have hit more fire against Biden early on but it wouldn't have mattered since clearly the party is interested in ramming Biden through no matter how unfit and awful a candidate he is. The SC democratic machine is entirely old church ladies who will never vote for anything remotely left wing and they turn out every single time (except for the general election, apparently. weird how that happens). I got blackpilled pretty hard by ST but yeah, if Warren actually joins Bernie instead of acting as perpetual spoiler and if it's really just down to him v Biden this is definitely not over.
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Communist Thoughts posted:This whole thing is a corbs replay but filtered through the American primary system Bernie's strategy is still only a partial failure in a way that can't be said for Corbyn. Youth aren't turning out but he's genuinely capitalizing on latino support.
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Warren has spent months attacking the Bernie campaign, she's not endorsing lol
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papa horny michael posted:or Obama did lol lol does anyone have that youtube link of one of her fellow professors / feminist ppl speaking about her? it came out like sunday I think?
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