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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed. |
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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
| R. Burgon |
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80 | 21.33% |
| D. Butler |
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72 | 19.20% |
| A. Rayner |
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35 | 9.33% |
| I. Murray |
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5 | 1.33% |
| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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RockyB posted:Well, FlyBe just went tits up. The gently caress is happening with that plane?
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RockyB posted:Well, FlyBe just went tits up. lol I liked flybe, always felt like an adventure with the wee little propeller planes
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Mar 5, 2020 02:13
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OwlFancier posted:The gently caress is happening with that plane? It's flying, hth.
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Mar 5, 2020 02:18
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I feel like there's something ill advised about taking this weird rear end plane and painting it a highly distressing colour scheme.
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Mar 5, 2020 02:20
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Private Speech posted:I mean, there's some depressing ones. Like: That's absolutely dreadful. I wonder what reason they cancelled his visa at Heathrow? Business visas are bloody hard and expensive to get.
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Mar 5, 2020 02:36
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Another choice bit:quote:In detention Fosu was found ranting into a mirror. He was then restrained and put into segregation shortly after his arrival where he remained until his death six days later. Let's see what the inquest had to say: quote:The PPO acknowledged that managing Fosu’s complex and difficult behaviour presented staff at Harmondsworth with challenges. However, she added: “We consider that the care he received fell considerably below acceptable standards.” Ahh well that's okay then. I wonder how that compares to the routine inmate rapes at Yarl's Wood. Was that also considerably below expectations, or perhaps just below expectations, after all rape still leaves you alive. Well except for the several percent who killed themselves. Humm. Really tough question there.
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Mar 5, 2020 02:58
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Gonzo McFee posted:lol the SNP are letting the MP who did holocaust denial back in the party. Antisemitism is only a problem if you plan to do something about inequality I guess. If you're talking about Neale Hanvey, he did not do any holocaust denialism. As far as antisemitism goes the cartoon Hanvey shared is very very mild, and if the investigation concluded that he didnt mean it and is genuinely apologetic, that's fine. They still dropped him in the middle of an election and it could have cost them the seat.
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Mar 5, 2020 04:01
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 quote:https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/education-51737116 BREXIT BETRAYAL
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Mar 5, 2020 08:29
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:
I remember my old passport being pretty much black.
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Mar 5, 2020 08:37
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OwlFancier posted:The gently caress is happening with that plane? Whattup  I mean it could be worse    I agree though, it's the colour scheme that makes it.
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Mar 5, 2020 09:03
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Private Speech posted:But clearly we can't let migrants off easily, 34000 pounds a year is a drop in a bucket compared to the damage a stray migrant could do. Imagine if we just invested that £34,000 in setting them up in the UK and getting them a job and a place to live. Imagine how much better off that person and the country would be. It's loving madness that it's the way it is.
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Mar 5, 2020 09:03
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Coohoolin posted:If you're talking about Neale Hanvey, he did not do any holocaust denialism. As far as antisemitism goes the cartoon Hanvey shared is very very mild, and if the investigation concluded that he didnt mean it and is genuinely apologetic, that's fine. They still dropped him in the middle of an election and it could have cost them the seat. So he's merely a transphobe then, grand
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Mar 5, 2020 09:04
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Angrymog posted:I remember my old passport being pretty much black. I think they were a clearly blue shade when new but would degrade to black fairly quickly.
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Mar 5, 2020 09:09
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:
What's with this weird shade from the bbc of all people? "heh, instant experts opining on what colour something looks like" already massively overqualified for a daily politics guest spot
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Mar 5, 2020 09:32
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OwlFancier posted:I feel like there's something ill advised about taking this weird rear end plane and painting it a highly distressing colour scheme. I like the smaller prop planes. Took one to Paris once. They feel safer than the big turbo props even though I know they very likely aren't.
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Mar 5, 2020 09:48
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RockyB posted:Well, FlyBe just went tits up. gently caress. I was supposed to be taking my sister to a flybe flight tomorrow morning. 
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Mar 5, 2020 09:51
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Jippa posted:gently caress. I was supposed to be taking my sister to a flybe flight tomorrow morning. https://twitter.com/LNER/status/1235475343508754433 Probably not likely to be of any help, but might be of use.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:01
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thespaceinvader posted:If nothing else, Covid-19 might be the thing that finally makes everyone seriously consider WASHING THEIR loving HANDS and ACTUALLY STAYING HOME WHEN THEY'RE ILL. People will only stay home when they are ill if they get proper sick pay though, if you are getting paid hourly can you afford to miss a day or afford your months expenses after a week on SSP? FairyNuff fucked around with this message at 10:17 on Mar 5, 2020 |
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Mar 5, 2020 10:12
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Regarde Aduck posted:I like the smaller prop planes. Took one to Paris once. They feel safer than the big turbo props even though I know they very likely aren't. I mean outside of like military transport planes the flybe dash 8s are some of the biggest turboprops around.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:14
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Could I use the UKMT collective brain for a moment? There's a theory that basically says journalism seems plausible until it's in a subject you're educated in. I can't remember what it's called and am finding it hard to define in a way that Google finds it. Does anyone know?
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Mar 5, 2020 10:21
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knox_harrington posted:Could I use the UKMT collective brain for a moment? There's a theory that basically says journalism seems plausible until it's in a subject you're educated in. I can't remember what it's called and am finding it hard to define in a way that Google finds it. No but you reminded me of the great anecdote about how everyone across the planet who reads the economist reads it for their foreign coverage because everyone sees how laughable their local analysis is.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:30
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namesake posted:No but you reminded me of the great anecdote about how everyone across the planet who reads the economist reads it for their foreign coverage because everyone sees how laughable their local analysis is. Haha... This is not-coincidentally about an article in the Economist
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Mar 5, 2020 10:31
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"Gell-Mann amnesia", actually coined by Michael Crichtonquote:Media carries with it a credibility that is totally undeserved. You have all experienced this, in what I call the Murray Gell-Mann Amnesia effect. (I refer to it by this name because I once discussed it with Murray Gell-Mann, and by dropping a famous name I imply greater importance to myself, and to the effect, than it would otherwise have.) He then merrily followed this down the garden path of global warming denialism, so... y'know. Word of warning and all that. It's worth keeping in mind that it is much easier to notice stupid ideas that one is conscious of and passionately disagrees with than it is to notice other kinds of ideas. But of course it is very easy to make stupid, un-nuanced arguments for anything, and an infinite number of such arguments does not therefore imply that its proposition is false. ronya fucked around with this message at 10:38 on Mar 5, 2020 |
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Mar 5, 2020 10:33
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The cspam New York times thread is a better bet but it's the idea that you'll read something in the opinion section that you're an expert in and realise it's horribly wrong and then just consume the news section like it's not also wrong
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Mar 5, 2020 10:33
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namesake posted:No but you reminded me of the great anecdote about how everyone across the planet who reads the economist reads it for their foreign coverage because everyone sees how laughable their local analysis is. I seem to recall this thread observing that RT is great for any news outside of Russia, Al Jazeera is great for any news outside of the Middle East, etc. Is there a name for that phenomenon?
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Mar 5, 2020 10:34
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Jose posted:The cspam New York times thread is a better bet but it's the idea that you'll read something in the opinion section that you're an expert in and realise it's horribly wrong and then just consume the news section like it's not also wrong The thing about news is that it's someone telling you stuff and you have no way to respond so it has an air of authority to it, it tricks you into thinking it must be true. Until they hit a topic where you're the authority
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Mar 5, 2020 10:36
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Awesome. Thanks everyone! ronya posted:"Gell-Mann amnesia", actually coined by Michael Crichton Noted
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Mar 5, 2020 10:38
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ronya posted:"Gell-Mann amnesia", actually coined by Michael Crichton I'm certain it's based on an older quote, possibly from Mark Twain, but I can't find anything to back that up on a quick Google so maybe it's an example of what I'll call Churchill Syndrome where people misattribute quotes to older, more respectable sources to cover up the fact they actually came from Kurt Cobain.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:41
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Stigler's law!
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Mar 5, 2020 10:41
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I'm certain it's based on an older quote, possibly from Mark Twain, but I can't find anything to back that up on a quick Google so maybe it's an example of what I'll call Churchill Syndrome where people misattribute quotes to older, more respectable sources to cover up the fact they actually came from Kurt Cobain. It's better to burn out than fade away - Joan of Arc
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Mar 5, 2020 10:45
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Found out today that I have to pay a company £16 to get paid for the shifts I worked! What fresh hell is that? It can't be legal.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:50
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bessantj posted:Found out today that I have to pay a company £16 to get paid for the shifts I worked! What fresh hell is that? It can't be legal.  yeah pretty sure if you're owed pay, you don't have to pay to get it. How did you find out? Is the company in question your employer or some payroll intermediary?E: also check your contract
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Mar 5, 2020 10:53
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I watched a lot of Press TV when I was in uni because it seemed to be the only news to give the vaguely even handed reports on foreign affairs Of course you had to ignore anything about Iran on the channel (except for when they showed very tasty looking Persian food  )
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Mar 5, 2020 10:56
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:
Payroll intermediary. I did shifts for McGinley, High Output and Colas and they give the cash to a company called "Payme" who I had to sign up with and am employed by them some how. It's Payme that take the £16 processing fee for me to get my money. The person at High Output I talked to said "don't worry it'll never get above £20 no matter how much you earn." I did want to say something back but it's not her doing so what would be the point.
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Mar 5, 2020 10:56
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"cool! give me 19 pounds right now. oh but it never goes above 20"
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Mar 5, 2020 10:58
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bessantj posted:Payroll intermediary. I did shifts for McGinley, High Output and Colas and they give the cash to a company called "Payme" who I had to sign up with and am employed by them some how. It's Payme that take the £16 processing fee for me to get my money. The person at High Output I talked to said "don't worry it'll never get above £20 no matter how much you earn." I did want to say something back but it's not her doing so what would be the point. Well i can only suggest you check your contract, presumably you have a contract of some sort with payme too
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Mar 5, 2020 11:02
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knox_harrington posted:Could I use the UKMT collective brain for a moment? There's a theory that basically says journalism seems plausible until it's in a subject you're educated in. I can't remember what it's called and am finding it hard to define in a way that Google finds it. Ah yes - the great day my nan discovered that The Sun does not report the truth! In the 1970s my nan and I were watching the TUC Conference on TV (such was the exciting life we lead) and while all the delegates were generally mooching around in the conference hall, a tiny union - Licensed Victuallers or something like that - moved a motion to have the T&G (biggest union in the UK at the time) expelled from the TUC and it got voted through (because people weren't paying attention). So for a few minutes the T&G delegates all had to leave. I can't recall exactly the ins and outs but they got back in again after a relatively short time the same day. Anyway, next day my nan was reading The Sun and they reported on this but what they said bore no resemblance to what we had seen live on TV. I remember the shock on her face as she sat there saying "but that's not what happened!" Another time, I used to take Private Eye at more or less face value then around 25 years ago they had something in their Doing the Rounds section concerning my actual direct boss of the time and it was completely untrue. My last anecdote on the topic - during the 2013 'not a coup' in Egypt when Morsy got ousted, the Guardian's reporter on what was going on was basically bollox. This was probably when I started taking the Guardian much less seriously as a newspaper.
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Mar 5, 2020 11:04
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I'm certain it's based on an older quote, possibly from Mark Twain, but I can't find anything to back that up on a quick Google so maybe it's an example of what I'll call Churchill Syndrome where people misattribute quotes to older, more respectable sources to cover up the fact they actually came from Kurt Cobain. 
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bessantj posted:Payroll intermediary. I did shifts for McGinley, High Output and Colas and they give the cash to a company called "Payme" who I had to sign up with and am employed by them some how. It's Payme that take the £16 processing fee for me to get my money. The person at High Output I talked to said "don't worry it'll never get above £20 no matter how much you earn." I did want to say something back but it's not her doing so what would be the point. If you're contracting, couldn't you add the payment to your invoice as 'expenses'? Maybe those firms you did shifts for don't realize that you have to pay to get your money via payme?
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:Well i can only suggest you check your contract, presumably you have a contract of some sort with payme too Yes, I'm going to have to look through my e-mails for it. Jaeluni Asjil posted:If you're contracting, couldn't you add the payment to your invoice as 'expenses'? They know, it was one of the ladies in the office that explained it to me. I don't think I can add it as expenses it would get queried.
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