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xzzy posted:GASing hard for this new body and review units aren't even out. I am (almost) regretting my Sony switch. Because who am I kidding -- of course Canon'll disappoint me.
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BetterLekNextTime posted:The 100-500 is probably going to be half the size? No specs yet but there are photos. Looks like it will be nice and small (and probably $2k because canon).
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Feb 13, 2020 19:35
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BetterLekNextTime posted:No specs yet but there are photos. Looks like it will be nice and small (and probably $2k because canon). But I'd probably rather have an EF100-400+RF70-200 than the RF100-500 for wouldn't be surprised if both setups cost the same money.
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Feb 13, 2020 23:16
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The best thing about the R5 is that canon actually made the right decision and dumped the stupid EOS R touchbar and put the joystick back in.ilkhan posted:What's the cheapest RF L lens out right now, anyway? I think the cheapest one would be the 24-105 F4 IS ($1100 from canon usa) which is technically the same MSRP as the EF version (even if no one has ever paid that price for the EF one  ).With regard to lenses, even for anyone going all-in on canon mirrorless with the new bodies coming (and I'm definitely leaning towards selling my 5D3 now), I'm still not seeing a good reason to start buying RF glass yet given how well the EF/RF adapters work.
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Feb 14, 2020 05:53
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jarlywarly posted:Will Canon do a 600mm f/4 RF mount. I'm super curious. Probably at some point, but don't hold your breath. Just like with Nikon there's little benefit to changing the mount on the superteles since there's little to be gained; the real benefits of the larger mounts seem to be on the wider end of things. And a 600/4 RF would probably be about the same size as a 600/4 EF + adapter.
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Feb 18, 2020 20:18
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drat the R5 looks sweet as hell. How do you think will Canon gently caress it up? All the numbers seem to be right but maybe the sensor will have terrible dynamic range or be a noisy piece of poo poo? Or maybe it'll be fine but cost like 10 grand. I want to believe but I don't know if I can. It was supposed to be shown at WPPI in Vegas but I haven't heard anything, maybe it got canceled because of the wuhan flu or something.
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Feb 24, 2020 19:11
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The image and info on the display screen will be upside down.
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Feb 24, 2020 19:28
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I think I could live with that
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Feb 24, 2020 19:52
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I'm guessing (sadly) that Canon is going to price it above $3000 in which case I'm probably still going to have to transition to a Sony body as they're way cheaper.
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Feb 24, 2020 20:12
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$3000? I expect it to fully be north of $4000. If it has the advertised specs and isn't a piece of poo poo on release I'm still getting it, though. This would be my first replacement since the 5D mkIII came out.
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Feb 25, 2020 13:03
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Body only it will be under $4k.
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Feb 27, 2020 04:55
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Well and don't forget they have two bodies coming out, there's gonna be a cheaper prosumer version that has decent specs too.
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Feb 27, 2020 05:44
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I wouldnt be surprised if Canon got aggressive in pricing for the R5/6 and make it up on the RF mount glass sales. Because if the R5 really is as insanely speeced as it is looking to be and if these have anything close to the AF the 1Dx mk III has in liveview mode.... they are gonna sell a metric fuckton of glass to go with the bodies. I'll certainly walk out of the store with at least a 70-200 2.8 and something else to go with any R5.
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Feb 27, 2020 10:34
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I guess it depends on how much they want it to eat the lunch of the 5Div, or if they want to price it higher to protect DSLR sales while positioning the R5 between the 5D and 1D ranges.
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Feb 27, 2020 11:50
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With the 5D4 being about 3.5 years old, might the R5 be it’s successor in Canon’s strategy?
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Feb 27, 2020 12:52
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CAT INTERCEPTOR posted:I wouldnt be surprised if Canon got aggressive in pricing for the R5/6 and make it up on the RF mount glass sales. Because if the R5 really is as insanely speeced as it is looking to be and if these have anything close to the AF the 1Dx mk III has in liveview mode.... they are gonna sell a metric fuckton of glass to go with the bodies. If the adapted EF glass is seamless they might sell less R glass than they expect.
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Feb 27, 2020 14:31
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Isn't the draw of RF glass that it works better with the greater megapixels these newer cameras are putting out?
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Feb 27, 2020 16:57
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jarlywarly posted:If the adapted EF glass is seamless they might sell less R glass than they expect. It is indeed seamless so far with the other R cameras - however the RF is definitely a tick up in quality and speed President Beep posted:With the 5D4 being about 3.5 years old, might the R5 be it’s successor in Canon’s strategy? Thats pretty much a given with the naming. I doubt there will ever be a 5DV
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Feb 27, 2020 21:22
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Man that R5 sounds great, I look forward to not being able to afford it.
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Mar 5, 2020 01:05
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As far as the R5 goes, I’m taking a ‘will believe it when I see it’ approach to the promised specs. Sony has an 8K APS sensor in the works, the S1H is remarkable for doing full frame 6K, and it’s been well over a decade since Canon leapfrogged any of its competitors in the usual sensor performance metrics (even if they punch above their weight in dependability and color response)...the 5DS and M6ii/90D being the exceptions that prove the rule imo. Hell, if the R5 has IBIS, dual card slots, and at least gives us moderately oversampled full-width 4K in a usably encoded format, it’ll exceed my expectations.
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Mar 5, 2020 01:59
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ijyt posted:Man that R5 sounds great, I look forward to not being able to afford it. Same. Five years from now or so that might change though. What’s cool about never having the latest and greatest is that I generally don’t know what I’m missing and the second hand market for camera gear that’s a handful of generations old is bretty gud.
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Mar 5, 2020 02:18
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President Beep posted:Same. Five years from now or so that might change though. I'm also going to assume it being mirrorless means it won't be as comfortable for me to hold as a full-size DSLR, so that'll help me not crave it.
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Mar 5, 2020 02:54
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ijyt posted:I'm also going to assume it being mirrorless means it won't be as comfortable for me to hold as a full-size DSLR, so that'll help me not crave it. There's not a huge difference in size between full-frame mirrorless and full-frame DSLRs. The mirrorless will be marginally thinner on the non-grip side and might be a few mm shorter but the difference is mostly a wash. When I upgraded to my 5Div last year, I had an EOS R and the 5Div in my hands at the same time, and I was struck by how little difference there was in the heft of the two. The R was even somewhat bigger than my old 70D. 
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Mar 5, 2020 05:29
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It’s that slimness that makes it uncomfortable for me, I’ve got big hands and long fingers.
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Mar 5, 2020 19:10
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I'm surprised that, unlike guns, you don't have removable hand grips. It would add a huge market for customization and personalizing a product to connect to a brand more. I vinyl wrap my lens hood once a year or so in different stuff to keep it interesting.
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Mar 5, 2020 19:22
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Some brands do that. I think there's swappable grips on Fuji bodies? But I might be remembering that wrong.
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um excuse me posted:I'm surprised that, unlike guns, you don't have removable hand grips. It would add a huge market for customization and personalizing a product to connect to a brand more. I vinyl wrap my lens hood once a year or so in different stuff to keep it interesting. Yup, camera people should definitely be more like gun people...........to be fair, the industry would probably have a lot more money if they were.
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Mar 5, 2020 19:29
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It's the only two industries where you shoot people 
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Mar 5, 2020 19:42
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Hey I post on here and TFR (and YOSPOS [shamefully])
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Mar 5, 2020 21:47
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I don't post in TFR, but I have the same amount of cameras as I do guns. I'm the perfect audience to sell dumb accessories to! I have 3 of each
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Mar 5, 2020 22:29
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um excuse me posted:I'm surprised that, unlike guns, you don't have removable hand grips. It would add a huge market for customization and personalizing a product to connect to a brand more. I vinyl wrap my lens hood once a year or so in different stuff to keep it interesting. It's alive and well in the video industry with camera cages, more or less has the same price ranges too.
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Mar 6, 2020 22:23
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 https://www.newsshooter.com/2020/03/13/canon-eos-r5-development-updates/ "Confirmed Specs 8K video capture – Up to 29.97fps (30fps) No-Crop Dual Pixel AF is available in all 8K modes Internal recording Animal detection – Steadily tracks animal subjects (dogs, cats, birds, etc.) by detecting the body, face, or eye of the subject. " Either this body is gonna cost $5k or canon is full on apologizing for piss poor offerings the last several years and are ready to demonstrate they are still relevant.
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The whole 'Canon's Cripple Hammer' thing is poppycock. Canon have simply been behind the curve on their sensor technology and it's not trivial to upgrade sensor fabs. This is just the fruit of Canon working away in the background and getting the sensor tech up to speed.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:31
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This could be a shift in company ethos based on abysmal year over year DSLR sales, as well. When they were releasing mediocre or even poorly speccd cameras, they knew exactly what they were doing. They had a business strategy laid down and they didn't want any of their new offerings disrupting their current stuff, it puts them in a difficult hole to get out of, but it's well fortified and risk adverse. In my opinion, Canon didn't understand how easily people were willing to jump to other camera ecosystems, thinking that CPS was nearly an unrivaled service.
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Pablo Bluth posted:The whole 'Canon's Cripple Hammer' thing is poppycock. Canon have simply been behind the curve on their sensor technology and it's not trivial to upgrade sensor fabs. This is just the fruit of Canon working away in the background and getting the sensor tech up to speed.
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Like Nikon they were a bit caught between switching to mirrorless and annoying their existing userbase. I do think that having put off the switch they failed to do enough behind the scenes R&D on stuff like IBIS. The video resolution/fps stuff I do think it entirely hardware (a combination of the sensor and processor) except for the occasional stupidity like dropping 24p.
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Mar 13, 2020 17:19
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xzzy posted:Either this body is gonna cost $5k or canon is full on apologizing for piss poor offerings the last several years and are ready to demonstrate they are still relevant. 
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xzzy posted:
Canon have already said this is going into the 5D segment so expect a similar price. And if anyone was awake, the M6 II was the clear warning shot Canon wasnt doomed.
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A bit disappointed if the R6 leaks are true and it is just a 20mp sensor, less than my 6D MK2 I was hoping to replace it with (and 0.2 less than the original 6D!). With Sony throwing three times as many megapixels out there in their cameras right now it still seems like Canon is a bit behind.
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I'm intrigued by the R6, yeah the sensor is an oddly small MP but it's full frame and as long as the dynamic range is solid I can't see that as a downside. Yes everyone else is pushing 50MP+ these days but the R6 is clearly aimed at the prosumer folks and everything else it does it seems to be doing right. Dual card slots and 20FPS is pretty nice for a non-pro camera. I wouldn't even miss the top down screen (and really, I'd be happy if it was gone from the R5 too. put a physical dial or something there instead).
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