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except those games at least have the excuse of being 20 years old and working with much more complex 3D geometry than any other platformers at the time. Sonic Forces can’t make a flat road shaped like an S function correctly.
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Pants Donkey posted:Weird, I heard Forces is decent fun except A) the levels and game as a whole is too short, and B) Classic Sonic feels especially tacked on. SeANMcBAY posted:I don't know where you heard that. That's pretty much exactly the opinion I have so Forces is ok but the levels really feel undercooked. It's fun enough but really did have a lot more potential. Dabir posted:Forces is significantly better-made than Adventure or similar because you can actually play it from start to end. This is wack tho
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azurite posted:Well thank you for making it. I laughed pretty hard. Dabir posted:Forces is significantly better-made than Adventure or similar because you can actually play it from start to end. It's just that you wouldn't want to. It's just... it sure is a game that exists.
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Mar 6, 2020 15:18
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Augus posted:one thing I definitely remember about Sonic Forces was how dogshit the controls are. Like, trying to turn right but the game says “no” and aggressively shoves you to the left into a pit Don't forget how the avatar would start slow then suddenly lurch forward at speed and fire you into a pit. Couldn't even get acceleration right. The gently caress happened with Forces.
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Mar 6, 2020 15:21
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I think Forces is built from the Lost World engine, where Sonic didn’t have proper acceleration due to the run button. It seems like they tried to take a “shortcut” by having the characters switch between different levels of speed instead of it ramping up gradually, resulting in jarring, unnatural controls.
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Mar 6, 2020 15:28
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people ITT forgetting just how bad the camera, geometry and enemies are in Adventure and 2, later levels of those games are actual torture to try and get through. forces never comes close to that level of bad, but it avoids that by never being interesting at all. there's no bullshit water blobs sniping you out of the air, so that's good! the egg pawns don't actually do anything but stand there waiting for you to boost through them.
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Mar 6, 2020 16:55
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I played Adventure like a week ago, it’s good. You on the other hand must be forgetting about that loving autoscroller level in Forces
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Mar 6, 2020 17:09
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everyone calm down both adventure and forces are bad
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much like your posts!
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Augus posted:much like your posts! 
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Mar 6, 2020 17:20
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i played the first two game gear games this week and let me tell ya... the first one is actually pretty okay? the physics are slow and kinda weird but i mean that makes sense since it's on a tiny screen. the level design is alright and the color palette is lovely, especially in the special zone. bosses are a complete joke but overall the game is really cute sonic 2 game gear, however, takes all of that and throws it in the gosh dang garbage
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Mar 6, 2020 18:29
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now play sonic blast
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Mar 6, 2020 18:30
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Boring is worse than outright bad. Re: the GG games, should have played the Master System versions. Sonic 2 is actually playable when you can see in front of you. Now, Sonic Blast could be the Actual Worst Sonic game, ever.
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Mar 6, 2020 18:43
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sharrrk posted:now play sonic blast I've got blast, labyrinth, chaos, drift 2, triple trouble, and tails' adventure ready to go this weekend. dang there was a lot of sonic on the game gear
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Mar 6, 2020 18:45
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Stink Terios posted:Re: the GG games, should have played the Master System versions. Sonic 2 is actually playable when you can see in front of you. eh i wanted to play the version that kicked my rear end as a child lol. but i don't think a larger screen would've fixed the bad level design, made the bosses fun, or made the hang glider mechanic good
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Mar 6, 2020 18:50
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Even with how much it’s aged, Adventure is still a much better game than Forces. Forces really sucked and it didn’t even in an enjoyable way like most other bad Sonic games.
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Mar 6, 2020 19:04
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SeANMcBAY posted:Even with how much it’s aged, Adventure is still a much better game than Forces. Forces really sucked and it didn’t even in an enjoyable way like most other bad Sonic games. Forces had very little passion behind it. Maybe some of the asset creators and musicians were into it, but the level designers and writers weren't at all. Meanwhile Sonic Team was clearly very passionate when they made Adventure.
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Mar 6, 2020 19:15
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Arguing over which Sonic game is bad or not... It's like the early 2000s all over again. 
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Mar 6, 2020 19:16
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Hah, like that ever stopped being a thing.
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Mar 6, 2020 19:20
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Sonic 1 and 2 SMS were my first videogames period, and I have so much fondness for the second one. It's such a weird game, and the music sounds almost dystopian, but I adore it, like a child that's really trying hard.
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Mar 6, 2020 19:26
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Takoluka posted:I like Forces better than Mania, because I can hang out with my best bud Sonic in Forces, whereas I don't like Sonic 3 so half of Mania is just lost on me. Mods?! I like 2006 more then Forces because at least some funny LPs have come out of it. Also Shadow kicks Silver in the head.
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Mar 6, 2020 19:41
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Wait, I remembered an actually great moment in Sonic Forces: when Shadow combos Infinite into submission, he does the same moves he did in the Shadow The Hedgehog intro movie.
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Mar 6, 2020 19:49
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Oxyclean posted:Mods?! Shadow kicks Infinite's rear end so badly in Forces he gets consumed into the dark side by jealousy and teenage angst and becomes the absolute best Sonic character in the series with a theme song by a band known for their song "Kill Everything." Sonic Forces has the passion of a teenage fanfiction writer given the power to make his ultimate video game, complete with an edgy story, edgier characters, all his favorite callbacks, create-a-creator who is best friends with Sonic by the end, and even a bullshit "this is the dinosaur that eats force field dogs" Wisp that lets you skip half the level and then obliterate anything that moves. It's so good.
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Mar 6, 2020 20:08
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Too bad Infinite went out on such a wet fart and instead we got “Egg Nega Wisp but in Chrome” for the final boss
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Mar 6, 2020 20:22
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Forces is the school project you hammered together the night before, but it's at least finished enough that the teacher has to grudgingly give you a C.
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Mar 6, 2020 20:28
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I was pretty annoyed that Eggman taking over the world was off screen and shown only in text. That should have been a glorious moment to watch.
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Mar 6, 2020 20:33
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ya my impression of forces was that they spent a very long time trying to figure out what they wanted the game to even be and by the time they did they didnt have any time left
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Mar 6, 2020 20:40
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the movie coming out got me to do a retrospective of the series and honestly I'm looking forward to forces more than lost world if only for the character creation
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Mar 6, 2020 20:52
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Looper posted:i played the first two game gear games this week and let me tell ya... The first 8-bit Sonic game is pretty interesting. It feels like the team got a few notes but didn’t have much communication with Sonic Team so they ended up making something closer to Mario than Sonic.
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Mar 6, 2020 20:53
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Adventure gets a lot of bonus points in my book for introducing my favourite and third-favourite characters in the entire franchise. I'll leave it to you guys to work out who they are. (Second-favourite is Robotnik) Paul.Power fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Mar 6, 2020 |
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J-Spot posted:The first 8-bit Sonic game is pretty interesting. It feels like the team got a few notes but didn’t have much communication with Sonic Team so they ended up making something closer to Mario than Sonic. for sure. first an autoscroller, then a vertical level with minimal speed, then a level you can basically skip if you find the hidden platform behind the start. it's a weird game but i liked it
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Paul.Power posted:Adventure gets a lot of bonus points in my book for introducing my favourite and third-favourite characters in the entire franchise. I'll leave it to you guys to work out who they are. Gamma and Chaos, total easy mode question
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Paul.Power posted:Adventure gets a lot of bonus points in my book for introducing my favourite and third-favourite characters in the entire franchise. I'll leave it to you guys to work out who they are. real answer: first place is gamma right? Third place Big? Maybe tikal? Theres not a ton of new memorable characters in Aventure honestly.
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Mar 6, 2020 21:05
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gamma and big are real good but it's obviously beta mk2 and the unionising rail workers
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Looper posted:for sure. first an autoscroller, then a vertical level with minimal speed, then a level you can basically skip if you find the hidden platform behind the start. it's a weird game but i liked it Please elaborate.
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Mar 6, 2020 21:20
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Sounds like Scrap Brain 3 in the MD Sonic 1.
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Mar 6, 2020 21:45
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Stink Terios posted:Please elaborate. act 2 of sky base zone. there's a floating platform kinda hidden behind the start that takes you through a pretty chill sequence of slow moving platforms and the zone's chaos emerald. i have no idea what the actual level looks like lol
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Mar 6, 2020 21:55
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All you fake gamers forgetting Tails and the Music Maker and Sonic the Hedgehog's Gameworld on the Pico smdh
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Macaluso posted:All you fake gamers forgetting Tails and the Music Maker and Sonic the Hedgehog's Gameworld on the Pico smdh How about Wacky Worlds for the Genesis with the genesis mouse attachment?
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