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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:remember when the advantage of apple was that they didn't sell any "bad" products? i remember. no, i can't say that i do
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Mar 5, 2020 23:33
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i expect a new imac pro
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Mar 5, 2020 23:35
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im gonna have to turn into a mac pro-stitute to pay for one with these prices *rolls eyes hugely while tugging at collar and mopping sweat from brow with a handkerchief*
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Mar 5, 2020 23:37
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boy i tell ya apple prices are so steep that I roll right back down 'em!
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Mar 5, 2020 23:43
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but seriously folks, seriously, apple products really aren't that expensive. In mean in comparison, the f-35 program cost like two or three mac pros
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Mar 5, 2020 23:46
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it does less, it costs more, it's that simple
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Mar 5, 2020 23:46
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The Management posted:they will update the iMac Pro when Mac Pro sales fall off a desk, which should be right about now.
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Mar 6, 2020 00:15
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I just utterly expect to be nothing but let down, even in spite of already low expectations, that apple will never again make a product I actually want, rather than something which may be the least bad
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Mar 6, 2020 00:50
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The weight of timb's sins bears down on him. At this point it's hard for him to get up in the morning, let alone put working keyboards in the laptops
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Mar 6, 2020 01:00
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echinopsis posted:I just utterly expect to be nothing but let down, even in spite of already low expectations, that apple will never again make a product I actually want, rather than something which may be the least bad it's only been 5 years
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Mar 6, 2020 01:08
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The Management posted:they will update the iMac Pro when Mac Pro sales fall off a cliff, which should be right about now. There's not any newer Xeons that could go into it that aren't already spoken for in cheesegrater II Mac Pros Unless they somehow shove in dual processors that they couldn't even fit into the cheesegraters which already have a 1 KW power supply or make the iMac Pro thickerer by making it pregnant and shooting up two middle fingers in johnny ivie's direction
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Mar 6, 2020 17:15
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the imac "pro" needs video inputs so you can use it as a monitor and a user accessible m2 slot imo
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Mar 6, 2020 17:22
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apple should review each of their products on a regular basis by asking "who is this product made for and why would they buy it?" examples where this would have helped: - the two port macbook pro (versus the four port macbook pro and the macbook air) - the imac pro after the mac pro was released - the homepod
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Mar 6, 2020 17:38
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the imac pro is a fine product let down by intel atm. the mac pro is the dumb one of the two.
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Mar 6, 2020 18:02
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:apple should review each of their products on a regular basis by asking "who is this product made for and why would they buy it?" As far as I can tell, all of these products are from the 'bad old days' when Apple hadn't formed their Pro Workflow team and it still was jony ive uber alles The Pro Workflow team is responsible for the 16-inch rMBP and the current cheesegrater Mac Pro. Supposedly made up of industry pros who do stuff like look for the 'pain points' of current Mac workflows and try to ease them by influencing the hardware teams. They supposedly sit across from the hardware engineers and can actually enforce issues, unlike before when some guy with a British accent probably just shot down every suggestion with 'not my idea' and that was that gonna have to agree with the Verge's review of the new cheesegrater and say that Apple's been out of the game too loving long, and the trashcan was literally a shot into their own foot; the new MP is a vast improvement over the trashcan, but the damage it caused is still ongoing Binary Badger fucked around with this message at 19:31 on Mar 6, 2020 |
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Mar 6, 2020 19:28
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the 16 inch mbp is a great computer
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Mar 6, 2020 19:38
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pls tell the pro workflow team that their name is stupid thx
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Mar 6, 2020 19:43
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16 inch is too large for a laptop. I'm sorry for this harsh view
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Mar 6, 2020 20:04
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Binary Badger posted:The Pro Workflow team is responsible for the 16-inch rMBP and the current cheesegrater Mac Pro. Supposedly made up of industry pros who do stuff like look for the 'pain points' of current Mac workflows and try to ease them by influencing the hardware teams. lol if you believe any of this.
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Mar 6, 2020 20:07
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:apple should review each of their products on a regular basis by asking "who is this product made for and why would they buy it?" i keep forgetting the homepod exists
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Mar 6, 2020 20:16
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Binary Badger posted:
im listening
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Mar 6, 2020 20:29
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Binary Badger posted:As far as I can tell, all of these products are from the 'bad old days' when Apple hadn't formed their Pro Workflow team and it still was jony ive uber alles when your pain points are almost entirely self inflicted wounds, eg no ports, bad keyboard, no physical escape key, you shouldn't need a swat team of industry pros to figure out how to fix it
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Mar 6, 2020 20:43
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A Wheezy Steampunk posted:apple should review each of their products on a regular basis by asking "who is this product made for and why would they buy it?" my understanding is the homepod was a back burner project for years and years but it never really got the love it needed and I'm sure upper management was just like "we need a speaker idiots can yell at, NOW"
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Mar 6, 2020 20:44
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qirex posted:my understanding is the homepod was a back burner project for years and years but it never really got the love it needed and I'm sure upper management was just like "we need a speaker idiots can yell at, NOW" blessed stebe would have shitcanned it before it was released on two grounds: 1 ) it was a me-too product that didnt fit in with apples long range product plan (back when apple had such a thing), and 2) actually using it was miserable for the consumer because siri is so far behind the curve
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Mar 6, 2020 20:57
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qirex posted:when your pain points are almost entirely self inflicted wounds, eg no ports, bad keyboard, no physical escape key, you shouldn't need a swat team of industry pros to figure out how to fix it they certainly don’t listen to the engineers who have been constantly calling these out. so it’s either bring in experts that management will believe, or do the usual process of waiting for the bad press and customer backlash to figure it out
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Mar 6, 2020 21:10
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qirex posted:the imac "pro" needs video inputs so you can use it as a monitor and a user accessible m2 slot imo iMac Pro 660AV
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Mar 6, 2020 21:15
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management spending an assload of money to listen to someone new tell them the exact same thing the long term employees have been saying for years is a well established business practice. usually it is a consulting company but a new division works too I guess.
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Mar 6, 2020 21:18
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homepod is indubitably a better quality article than the other home spying devices, but it turns out "quality" wasn't what consumers were looking for when they buy a government listening device for their home
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Mar 6, 2020 21:29
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:homepod is indubitably a better quality article than the other home spying devices, but it turns out "quality" wasn't what consumers were looking for when they buy a government listening device for their home also invoking quality is a dangerous game in that space since really good sounding speakers are actually not that expensive
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Mar 6, 2020 21:34
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No Mods No Masters posted:16 inch is too large for a laptop. I'm sorry for this harsh view you might think this, but you are wrong, it isn't
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Mar 6, 2020 21:53
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DELETE CASCADE posted:the 16 inch mbp is a great computer it's great except mine started doing this weird thing with the left speaker where it sounded like there were metal beads vibrating in it. went to an apple authorized reseller and they fixed it under warranty. it's cool but i hope it's not a systematic thing
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Mar 6, 2020 22:30
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:also invoking quality is a dangerous game in that space since really good sounding speakers are actually not that expensive yeah the low end passive speaker market has an insane numbers of good options right now
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Mar 6, 2020 22:53
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Cybernetic Vermin posted:also invoking quality is a dangerous game in that space since really good sounding speakers are actually not that expensive google and amazon can't be bothered with good-sounding speakers whether that is a function of cost, i don't know, but plainly consumers don't give a gently caress
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Mar 6, 2020 22:59
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Binary Badger posted:There's not any newer Xeons that could go into it that aren't already spoken for in cheesegrater II Mac Pros or they go amd like the rumors have been saying
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Mar 6, 2020 23:42
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Timb already has AMD. All my dollars. Am I right here people
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Mar 6, 2020 23:58
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Plorkyeran posted:or they go amd like the rumors have been saying amd does not have substantially better tdp than the big xeons, they're just cheaper and higher performing edit: i mean it's a little better, if you think about perf/watt. but in absolute terms, both are power-sucking monsters
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Mar 7, 2020 00:07
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:google and amazon can't be bothered with good-sounding speakers they have negative margins on voice cylinders. gotta cut costs where you can. Notorious b.s.d. posted:they're just cheaper and higher performing 
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Mar 7, 2020 00:17
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DELETE CASCADE posted:the 16 inch mbp is a great computer it’s less bad than the other touchbar mbps, but it’s still a touchbar mbp, and therefore bad.
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Mar 7, 2020 01:28
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the HomePod is good actually. works nicely with my phone. turns off my lights. worth buying? probably not, but it’s nice.
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Notorious b.s.d. posted:google and amazon can't be bothered with good-sounding speakers good sounding speakers are larger than surveillance cylinders and you have to pay attention to where in the room you put them. imo the difference between alexa being a curiosity and a hit product is almost entirely down to their subsidized cost though
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