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AntherUslessPoster posted:Hahah totally 100% agree here man. lol, this is almost as good as writing it down episode by episode.
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The Unlife Aquatic posted:You have been infected, your only hope is to infect others with the love for B5 so you can live vicariously through their first watch. Gooble gobble, one of us! And some of Sheridan is definitely Default Bruce Boxleitner, but he grows on you.
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CainFortea posted:Yea sorry. From now on you will compare the story depth and continuity of every new show you watch to B5 and they will be found wanting. Been working my way through The Expanse and it's pretty chewy. Can't believe there's no thread for it.
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Data Graham posted:Been working my way through The Expanse and it's pretty chewy. Can't believe there's no thread for it. https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3906760 
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Data Graham posted:Been working my way through The Expanse and it's pretty chewy. Can't believe there's no thread for it. Expanse is excellent. I was going to type more, but that really covers it.
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Data Graham posted:Been working my way through The Expanse and it's pretty chewy. Can't believe there's no thread for it. The first episode didn't really grab me hard when I tried it a while ago, but I've been meaning to keep trying again at some point.
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Mar 6, 2020 23:55
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:The first episode didn't really grab me hard when I tried it a while ago, but I've been meaning to keep trying again at some point. The Expanse takes a few episodes to get to full-speed, but it's well worth it.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:The first episode didn't really grab me hard when I tried it a while ago, but I've been meaning to keep trying again at some point. Takes up to episode four to really ramp up, then it won't let you go. Not as bad of a lead-in as B5. 
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The clips I've seen kinda rub me the wrong way. I think the concrete thing that bugs me most is all the lighting. It must've been a real challenge to arrange all those lights so that there's lights everywhere, but everything's still dark and dim, at best only slightly illuminated. Weird how one of its claims is how "realistic" the world is when the lighting, the thing that takes up the entirety of every shot, is so weird and unrealistic. They even have those silly inside-helmet face lights that have no realistic purpose beyond aesthetic convenience.
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SlothfulCobra posted:The clips I've seen kinda rub me the wrong way. I think the concrete thing that bugs me most is all the lighting. It must've been a real challenge to arrange all those lights so that there's lights everywhere, but everything's still dark and dim, at best only slightly illuminated. Gotta be able to look over and see bossmang's face on a job to know dey okay, Beltalowda. Also it's still a TV show. Helps to see the cast's faces onscreen. Otherwise you get the season one Martian helmets that, while functional, you have no idea who is in which spacesuit.
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BSG did the same thing with Viper pilot helmets if I’m remembering correctly. It’s just a modern production thing that’s doable. Meh.
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Prism Mirror Lens posted:I really liked Sinclair, he was chill and calm and didn’t keep spouting inspirational quotes. Hard same. I liked Sinclair. He was chill. I think the character gets a lot of flak for his chillness being mistaken for blandness.
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To be clear, I'm not complaining about the helmet lights that just about every depiction of future astronauts uses, I'm complaining about how everything else in the scene is meticulously unlit, at least not outside of some dim weirdly colored lighting. The helmet lights are just an example of how there is no realistic reason for the way it's lit, as well as a demonstration of how it sure is better when things are fully lit so you can properly see them.
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Expanse is awesome because it's the best representation of gravity and inertia. It's actually painful to go fast. Impossible to survive above a certain level. Every other show just hand waves it away.
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Also, just the simple reality of even near future propulsion requiring you to accelerate and then decelerate to reach an orbit of your target destination.
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TraderStav posted:Expanse is awesome because it's the best representation of gravity and inertia. It's actually painful to go fast. Impossible to survive above a certain level. Going fast is fine. It's getting to fast quickly which squeezes you.
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Grand Fromage posted:Takes up to episode four to really ramp up, then it won't let you go. Not as bad of a lead-in as B5. yeah but it's not 1994 anymore, gramps
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TraderStav posted:Expanse is awesome because it's the best representation of gravity and inertia. It's actually painful to go fast. Impossible to survive above a certain level. Anyway I assume there's more to the show than realistic orbital mechanics? Like what is it actually about and maybe something about the characters.
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Absurd Alhazred posted:Going fast is fine. It's getting to fast quickly which squeezes you. Touche Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Anyway I assume there's more to the show than realistic orbital mechanics? Like what is it actually about and maybe something about the characters. Oh yeah, absolutely. I'd say that the worst part of the show is the orbital mechanics and acceleration. It's 10/10, enjoy it.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Anyway I assume there's more to the show than realistic orbital mechanics? Like what is it actually about and maybe something about the characters. It’s more like the last season of B5 than anything before if that helps. Near-future, harder sci-fi, where any alien factor is even more enigmatic than Kosh. Give it a try. It’s based on some good source material I’m glad I read before there was ever going to be a show, and the writers put out a decent book a year like clockwork unlike some authors. Though if you like reading, I’d suggest that before watching, but either works.
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:yeah but it's not 1994 anymore, gramps Correct, it's the age of post-Lost mystery boxes and meandering attempts at chasing the mythical "prestige" status where entire first seasons of a show can be prologues to the real story. You should count your blessings that it only takes four episodes to kick into gear and answers most of the questions it raises in the same season.
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Behold, one of the reasons I don't watch modern television.
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TraderStav posted:Expanse is awesome because it's the best representation of gravity and inertia. It's actually painful to go fast. Impossible to survive above a certain level. Babylon 5 doesn't 
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Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Anyway I assume there's more to the show than realistic orbital mechanics? Like what is it actually about and maybe something about the characters. I have read the books but only seen a couple episodes of season 1 and some clips from later seasons. It's a lot like John Wick, they have that one thing they concentrate on (orbital mechanics) the rest ranges from meh to total crap.
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MikusR posted:I have read the books but only seen a couple episodes of season 1 and some clips from later seasons. It's a lot like John Wick, they have that one thing they concentrate on (orbital mechanics) the rest ranges from meh to total crap. Ah, yes; random clips out of context from scattered episodes. The true merit by which a show can be judged.  Son of Sam-I-Am posted:Anyway I assume there's more to the show than realistic orbital mechanics? Like what is it actually about and maybe something about the characters. While it's not entirely accurate, the best way I can describe the general show's structure is it's similar to the way Game of Thrones runs; There's several disparate main characters with their own agendas, whose stories just intersect as the plot demands. James Holden is very much the Jon Snow of the show, but he's a lot more pragmatic in his choices and willing to play dirty if need be. There's a whole lot of factions wanting their own goals, and everyone's little cold-war infighting is about to get tossed over by a big new development that begins with the first episode and escalates across the solar system.
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I haven't seen Game of Thrones either and, unlike The Expanse, don't intend to. McSpanky posted:Correct, it's the age of post-Lost mystery boxes and meandering attempts at chasing the mythical "prestige" status where entire first seasons of a show can be prologues to the real story. You should count your blessings that it only takes four episodes to kick into gear and answers most of the questions it raises in the same season. Yeah, I didn't dislike it, just haven't found the motivation to continue yet.
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MrL_JaKiri posted:Babylon 5 doesn't That’s fair. B5 uses the jump gate way of traversing the galaxy. Which I really enjoyed that they explored that quite a bit through the series. Native species to it, getting lost if not tethered, fleets hiding there, etc. drat. B5 rules
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The Expanse books just got worse as each new one came out, so I didn't really bother with the show.
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mossyfisk posted:The Expanse books just got worse as each new one came out, so I didn't really bother with the show. How shortsighted of you then, because the latest season managed to take THE WORST book and make it a fairly good season of TV! Lot of strange and uninformed opinions in a thread about such a great and literary show.
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TraderStav posted:That’s fair. B5 uses the jump gate way of traversing the galaxy. Which I really enjoyed that they explored that quite a bit through the series. Native species to it, getting lost if not tethered, fleets hiding there, etc. There was USS Copernicus that was launched before jumpgates.
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MikusR posted:There was USS Copernicus that was launched before jumpgates. Tell me more about this ship! I don't recall it. Was it able to go in between systems? Did it take generations?
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Longbaugh01 posted:How shortsighted of you then, because the latest season managed to take THE WORST book and make it a fairly good season of TV! I'd take Cibola Burn over the last three any day of the week.
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TraderStav posted:Tell me more about this ship! I don't recall it. Was it able to go in between systems? Did it take generations? It took 100 years to get to Babylon 5. https://babylon5.fandom.com/wiki/The_Long_Dark
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MikusR posted:There was USS Copernicus that was launched before jumpgates. You know that must suck for cryogenic colonists; Getting all hyped to be the first to go explore and settle a new world, going into stasis... and getting woken up by some slack-jawed nobody of a soldier or civilian telling them that they were leapfrogged ahead by decades due to the invention of some method of FTL since they left.
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Neddy Seagoon posted:You know that must suck for cryogenic colonists; Getting all hyped to be the first to go explore and settle a new world, going into stasis... and getting woken up by some slack-jawed nobody of a soldier or civilian telling them that they were leapfrogged ahead by decades due to the invention of some method of FTL since they left. The 1944 story “Far Centaurus” by AE van Vogt uses that idea: a sleeper ship takes 500 years to reach another planet but when it arrives, the crew wake up and discover the planet is populated because FTL travel was invented while they were traveling, and now a trip there from Earth takes just a few hours.
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MikusR posted:There was USS Copernicus that was launched before jumpgates. If anyone has an interest in colony ships in fiction look up Seedship on your phone App Store (definitely Apple, I think Anroid as well) - quick to play through each game and very moreish.
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I’d try to get something in my contract that if FTL is invented before I arrive they’ll send a tow truck to come get me off the slow boat.
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