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Longbaugh01 posted:Edit: Janeway yells “brace for impact” and her dumbass first officer runs and jumps AWAY from the railing he could brace against. What the gently caress. Guess he missed the Bracing For Impacts course at Starfleet Academy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U1UIWrkswvA
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McSpanky posted:A proper vocal synthesizer would be able to attenuate the phonemes to flow correctly based on pronunciation, sentence structure and punctuation. In other words, to inflect. Of course we're still trying real hard to get vocal synthesizers to do just that for brief neutral statements and not still be easily recognized as artificial so yeah, it actually is that hard. Like I said, the JFK/Star Wars one was fine and that quality would be perfectly acceptable  also it's a computer voice friend, it's supposed to be easily recognized as artificial
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zoux posted:Right but he's like you're my nuncle to the kid, is he just doing dad jokes? ??? Rene mistakenly calls Picard his nephew when they first meet, so Picard jokes that Rene must be his uncle, and maintains the joke throughout the episode. Did you watch the episode?
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Mar 7, 2020 04:01
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Longbaugh01 posted:Wow. The cgi Badlands in the Voyager pilot look like pink vomit Ghostbusters 2 slime compared to the practical effects Badlands from DS9. One that prepares you for Voyager
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Longbaugh01 posted:Just got to the end of S6/two-part opening to S7 in my DS9 re-watch, and that Jadzia lead up to death/death transition to Ezri is such a rushed mess. Someone on AV Club or somewhere who met Shimerman said this was over money. Farrell knew that the rest of the cast were career actors but she was a model hired for appearances, and youthful beauty never lasts, so she wanted to be paid as much as the top cast were since DS9 was going to be by far the biggest chunk of her whole Hollywood career. They didn't want to pay her as much as the other top people, so she left to pursue roles that paid better.
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Ferrell wanted to split her time on DS9 season 7 with Becker and wanted to be a recurring character instead of main cast. Instead, Berman got pissed off and just fired her. From The 50 Year Mission: quote:According to Farrell, when her Deep Space Nine contract was expiring following the end of season six, she requested that she appear in fewer episodes, noting the sheer number of regular and recurring characters featured on the show, which would allow her to work fewer hours.
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Craptacular! posted:Someone on AV Club or somewhere who met Shimerman said this was over money. Farrell knew that the rest of the cast were career actors but she was a model hired for appearances, and youthful beauty never lasts, so she wanted to be paid as much as the top cast were since DS9 was going to be by far the biggest chunk of her whole Hollywood career. They didn't want to pay her as much as the other top people, so she left to pursue roles that paid better. That's not what Farrell says (though it could have contributed to it). She was offered a bigger role on Becker and she offered to go down to a recurring role rather than regular, arguing that the cast by then included tons of recurring characters and nobody would miss Jadzia if she was only in 1/3 of the season. Berman went all or nothing so Farrell walked because Becker was (in her mind) the better gambit. The bit about the guest role is something she's only said recently afaik and her story had been, up until now, that she thought Becker was a way to break out of a sci-fi typecast. e:f;b
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I'm rewatching TNG s5e17 The Outcast, and it's actually a pretty drat good breakdown of gender identity. To the point where I feel like culture has gotten way, way dumber since it aired. gently caress Berman for nixing the idea of casting a man in that role, though.
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Basically, when in doubt of something lovely or stupid going down in that era of Trek, it’s a pretty safe bet to blame Berman... ...or Braga. Anyway this may be my most important observation about Voyager to this point: I never realized until now that the Intrepid class looks like a giant micropenis. You’re welcome.
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Mar 7, 2020 05:14
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Where the gently caress is he going, even?
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Has anybody watched a significant amount of Avery Brooks' old show A Man Called Hawk? Because the few episodes I can find online own and own hard. Basically Brooks is as black and cool as humanly possible and they never explain what the hell his job title is, but he has to be CIA. He's untouchable. He can shoot bad guys in broad daylight in Washington DC, he can boss the cops around, he negotiates with the Feds on equal footing, and he knows every underworld thing going on.
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A Man Called Hawk is actually a spin off of Spenser For Hire and he's insanely badass in that on the regular too there's a complication of his best stuff on youtube from those shows
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I only know about Spenser for Hire and A Man Called Hawk from that MTV (VH1?) show I Love the 80s, but legend has it Avery Brooks wasn't allowed to be bald in early DS9 so people wouldn't associate him with Hawk. Which is madness, they should have leaned into it.
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Humerus posted:I only know about Spenser for Hire and A Man Called Hawk from that MTV (VH1?) show I Love the 80s, but legend has it Avery Brooks wasn't allowed to be bald in early DS9 so people wouldn't associate him with Hawk. I like the idea of Sisko being a well-known loose cannon that everyone just sort of gives a wide berth if they can help it. I have a vision in my head of Sisko silently turning off a communication when the Admiral he's talking to pisses him off. The Admiral thinks it's over. Hours later, a shuttle slams against the outer hull. Sisko kicks in the window, hops out of his runabout, walks up to the Admiral. Slaps him once with the back of his hand. Gets back into the runabout, flies off at full impulse.
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Mar 7, 2020 15:56
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Yeah... I’m only a few episodes in, but I’m finding Voyager to be more dull than I was expecting. I like the theme music, Janeway, Chuck Otay, maaaaybe Paris, and of course Emergency Comedic Relief Hologram. Everyone else is super-trope-y and/or boring. How can I be this many episodes deep and still no one on the show has explained why the ship has articulated warp nacelles and has to move them to go to warp? (Unless I missed some dialogue.) Anyway, my excitement for unseen Trek that was already tempered by everything I had read and heard has taken an even more drastic nosedive.
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Chuck Otay.
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The Space Adventures of John Luck Pickerd and Chuck Otay
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Kibayasu posted:Chuck Otay. He's the blandest white guy you met at college. He's totally into native American stuff after taking one semester of archeology and can totally tell you all about spiritual journeys and stuff. Also, he doesn't have his shuttle pilot's license, but how hard could it be, it's space, there's nothing to hit.
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I was rolling my eyes hard in the pilot when rapscallion Paris was asking Mr. Otay why he couldn’t just transform into a bird and fly away since he was a Native American (or whatever he is). Also something about Wookie Life Debts. Edit: Everyone is way too cheerful about being stranded 70,000 light years away from home. I don’t remember the NX crew being this lighthearted about having to traverse the expanse cut off from any support. Longbaugh01 fucked around with this message at 18:27 on Mar 7, 2020 |
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Longbaugh01 posted:I was rolling my eyes hard in the pilot when rapscallion Paris was asking Mr. Otay why he couldn’t just transform into a bird and fly away since he was a Native American (or whatever he is). Also something about Wookie Life Debts. To be fair the NX crew didn't have replicators or holodecks
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Holodeck can recreate people enough people can start to fall in love with them. Plenty of precedent for that. Miss your family and friends back home? Just holodeck your homesickness away with the bonus freedom to derail the traintracks near your house.
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Work stress you out? You can have sex with and/or murder your coworkers!
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Angry_Ed posted:To be fair the NX crew didn't have replicators or holodecks Well A. They wouldn’t know what they were missing anyway and had a full galley and Chef. B. Voyager already ran out of enough power to use the replicators by at least episode 3. I think my point has been missed that there is no sense of being in this fairly dire predicament. It’s not just about homesickness and missing people, it’s about being in a completely uncharted, and probably dangerous, area of the galaxy without any hope of Federation support (yes I know they gently caress this up later), yet there being no sense of this among any of the crew so far. I know it’s a Star Trek show, and I know it’s early, but you really should feel what the stakes are. And yes you could argue that both previous Enterprise crews were in similar circumstances, but they had the means of support, replenishment, and shore leave on safe and official facilities. Basically what I’m saying is that nothing about Voyager has impressed me so far in comparison. Interesting set up premise. Poor execution. Thus far.
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Longbaugh01 posted:Interesting set up premise. Poor execution. Thus far. Remove the thus far and you get voyager.txt
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Longbaugh01 posted:Well A. They wouldn’t know what they were missing anyway and had a full galley and Chef. There are a few fun episodes in VOY but overall it's just a great example of how to waste a potentially great setup to make something safe but average instead.
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orcane posted:There are a few fun episodes in VOY but overall it's just a great example of how to waste a potentially great setup to make something safe but average instead. ...And I have seven seasons to get through 
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Sash! posted:Work stress you out? You can have sex with and/or murder your coworkers! That was a pretty good Black Mirror
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Off the top of my head, I can't think of an early-Voyager episode that is really, really worth watching until The Thaw. Which, it turns out, is one of the best episodes of the series.
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I mostly stuck to a list of the good voyager episodes, and it still took me like three years to get through it. So bland and uninspiring. Should probably watch literally any other Star Trek show instead. Everyone ITT likes to poo poo on Enterprise and Discovery, but they are both so much more interesting and entertaining than Voyager.
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The plot of Voyager is mostly garbage (especially compared to DS9) but the crew gets better once 7of9 shows up, I liked most of the Seven and Doctor episodes but they don't come until later in the series. The beginning was particularly dire.
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Captain Morningperson is so worried about the crew’s morale she has described Mr. Chuck Otay as a “Bear-type.”  during a discussion about animal sprit guides. Chuck says his is actually a female. It’s probably a Cat-Girl.marktheando posted:Everyone ITT likes to poo poo on Enterprise and Discovery, but they are both so much more interesting and entertaining than Voyager. I already think I know I liked Enterprise better than this, but I can dislike Discovery for many different reasons. Edit: Tomcat wants to show Pavel-I mean Harry something. Harry is distracted talking about remembering being in his mother’s womb. Asks Paris what he wants to show him... Paris replies: “Nothing that’ll compare to that memory of your mother’s womb!” Edit2: Is a lizard being Janeway’s spirit animal unintentional foreshadowing? Longbaugh01 fucked around with this message at 21:23 on Mar 7, 2020 |
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Longbaugh01 posted:Well A. They wouldn’t know what they were missing anyway and had a full galley and Chef. They only have a chef because they need to keep Neelix busy so he won't get any other Voyager crew killed (not that this plan works.) But yes, Voyager does basically nothing with its premise. Longbaugh01 posted:Captain Morningperson is so worried about the crew’s morale she has described Mr. Chuck Otay as a “Bear-type.” Harry's sexual repression is extremely compelling.
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Longbaugh01 posted:Edit2: Is a lizard being Janeway’s spirit animal unintentional foreshadowing? 
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Longbaugh01 posted:How can I be this many episodes deep and still no one on the show has explained why the ship has articulated warp nacelles and has to move them to go to warp? (Unless I missed some dialogue.) You didn’t miss anything - the nacelles tilt to allow Voyager to travel past the warp speed limit from TNG but it was never explained on screen, only in behind the scenes documentation.
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Longbaugh01 posted:Edit2: Is a lizard being Janeway’s spirit animal unintentional foreshadowing? Lizards and salamanders are less related than humans and cats.
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Longbaugh01 posted:...And I have seven seasons to get through There are good Voyager episodes, but you just kind of have to accept the show squanders its premise and is TNG Again But Worse.
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Dukat was such a good villain. You love to hate the smug son of a bitch.
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There's a handful of decent Voyager episodes in the beginning, the one with the Romulan ship through a narrow wormhole, the one where The Doctor plays Beowulf....The 37s? I like it anyway. But tbh nothing of value is lost if you skip ahead to Scorpion and watch it that way, but what are you gonna do if you don't watch all of Voyager? Something useful? Unlikely.
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