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Jose Oquendo posted:Is there a diminishing returns on skill haste?
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Mar 8, 2020 05:42
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Is there a button that instantly unattaches you from cover? I always get stuck when I'm trying to run away from grenades. Also is gear score gone now? All level 40 items of the same rarity have the same armor/damage and just have differently rolled stats?
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Mar 8, 2020 06:42
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bamhand posted:Is there a button that instantly unattaches you from cover? I always get stuck when I'm trying to run away from grenades. Hit back instead of left or right.
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Mar 8, 2020 06:44
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The Locator posted:Shoot their feet, that causes them to stagger and open up the shield so you can shoot them in the face. Worst case you can just kill them by chopping their feet off with bullets. It does get more difficult with the yellow turds who just ignore that you are mag-dumping into one of their ankles. I’ve been doing this with shotguns and it’s very gratifying because they do a kind of forward gasping flip as you cut their legs out from under them.
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Mar 8, 2020 06:51
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Jose Oquendo posted:Is there a diminishing returns on skill haste? There might be now, but I also think the actual numbers being multiplied are hidden and you wind up with way less than it feels like you should. If I manage to finish my current skill setup (since Hardwired will be forever broken at this rate) I'll probably have 20% (or like 30% with godrolls) more haste than my current HW build. This will probably shave my 26s seekers down to... 24s. Hardwired should be a game-changer as you're setting yourself up for a ~12s cooldown with no haste... but alas the talents are both broken so welp. Note that none of this will really be playable as seekers are a buggy mess and the cooldown is way too long to deal with massive health bars even when they do hit, but it'll perform better than Hardwired.
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Mar 8, 2020 07:27
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Beat WoNY finally. Really loved the final mission, definitely gonna be a go to on my fun missions rotation. The betrayal was a bit out of left field but I'm still excited to see where it goes. I think I'll take a small break and get into the meat of the new endgame, I've been looking forward to putting a nice gearset build together, I'm thinking a tip of the spear survivalist build sounds fun.
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Mar 8, 2020 08:39
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The Locator posted:So I'm confused about specialization points after hitting level 40. I've done multiple bounties and gotten multiple 'level ups' since I hit level 40, but I've not gotten a single specialization point, nor a single cache. On SHD levels you get 1 SHD point and 1 Spec point, free caches are gone with the wind. e: also 1 apparel cache key it seems bamhand posted:Is there a button that instantly unattaches you from cover? I always get stuck when I'm trying to run away from grenades. I get that in a big fire fight. I see a grenade coming and its like i am somehow glued to the side of the car. The best thing about cleaners is that even when dead you can explode their tanks. If they fall without exploding, you can still use them to blow up their friends. OgNar fucked around with this message at 16:18 on Mar 8, 2020 |
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Mar 8, 2020 08:45
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Shumagorath posted:Are shotguns... good now? I have one as a backup to my LMG with no specialization bonuses and they all take big chunks out of elites, though granted I'm on Story difficulty right now. I would say they're actually worse now than they were in TU7. At least pre-WONY the pump actions and double barrels would hit like a truck with the proper talent setup and a ton of red mods. Now we're back to shotguns not really being viable past hard difficulty, and definitely not useful in a group, which is a loving shame.
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Mar 8, 2020 10:50
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Just picked this up (base game) on PS4 (EU) with a friend as it was down to £8 (drat you us and your basically free equivalent). From skimming through the thread, skills and gear apparently changed so does that mean older guides such as 'what skills to pick' are out of date for playing through the base game and if so does anyone know of a handy guide for the base game now?
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Mar 8, 2020 15:20
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It's almost a new game in terms of gear and skill mods but the skills themselves aren't very different. You don't need to worry about gear guides since from 31-40 you can safely use whatever you find on the floor and experiment.
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Mar 8, 2020 15:43
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I'm at a point where I can (carefully) clear Heroic conent with only a few deaths but the loot I'm getting at that difficulty is absolutely not worth the effort. Then on challenges the loot is simply "ok" with a god roll for the library every now and then. gently caress, even the targetted loot doesn't appear to be dropping right. Whatever they did to "reduce" loot seems to apply to them because I'm looking if I run a heroic mission and end with more than 3-4 of the target drops.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:08
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I know Reddit is furious about the changes in enemy AI and TTK but the changes to the recal library and essentially allowing you to collect up the talents and attributes like a scrapbook is such an incredibly good idea.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:10
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3 bosses down and Dragov is being a real bitch. As fun as these long drawn out boss fights are the first time (and I do think they're good) I don't know how often I'm going to want to run them again and that could be problematic for farming exotics.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:46
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My big issue with the enemies is what seems to be them running around with .000000000001% of HP left which does not go away IIRC there's some mechanic with players that leave them a tiny bit of HP so we don't get one shotted, and I think that mechanic might also apply to enemies. It's really annoying.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:46
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smellmycheese posted:I know Reddit is furious about the changes in enemy AI and TTK but the changes to the recal library and essentially allowing you to collect up the talents and attributes like a scrapbook is such an incredibly good idea. The two things I would love for this right now are: 1- A toggle to enable/disable grabbing gear from the stash. There's some weapons I don't want to feed to the library but they show up anyway. Not really an issue since you can mark the item as a favorite and it'll hide them on the library screen but I don't want to favorite everything I might use. 2- While on the library screen, hide everything I can't intreract them / show only what I can add. Kinda annoying the amount of scrolling you need to do to find the stats you're looking to add. 3- on the main screen it shows you how many stats you have stored. I'd like this to show how many MAX stats you have stored (this is already shown on the sub-menu for each item) Mr. Carlisle posted:3 bosses down and Dragov is being a real bitch. As fun as these long drawn out boss fights are the first time (and I do think they're good) I don't know how often I'm going to want to run them again and that could be problematic for farming exotics. You ARE using the mini-guns on that fight, right?
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Mar 8, 2020 16:47
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Happy Noodle Boy posted:You ARE using the mini-guns on that fight, right? Attempting to before he mows me down, yes. I'm not what you'd call 'really good' at this game, I'll admit. It's most likely a me problem but I'm just having a much tougher time with him than any of the previous three. Also this time around it seems like they really turned the dial all the way to 'neverending monster closets' for the support enemies that spawn during boss fights.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:51
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Attempting to before he mows me down, yes. I'm not what you'd call 'really good' at this game, I'll admit. It's most likely a me problem but I'm just having a much tougher time with him than any of the previous three. Do you have a group? All those boss fights are way easier even when matchmade with pubbies.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:52
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If you mark gear as favourite it won't show up to strip talents from or to sell.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:54
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Cyrano4747 posted:Do you have a group? I do. We will eventually run them together when schedules line up I was just trying to get a feel for them going through solo the first time. I may matchmake until then if I can't finish it solo. I do respect the work they put into the boss fights this time around though and though it's basically just ripped straight from Far Cry I like having to beat all the lower bosses before getting to the leader. It gives you a sense of constant progression and a clear story purpose of what you are working toward.
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Mar 8, 2020 16:55
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Huh, guess I should do something with this. Will probably put Ranger on it.
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Mar 8, 2020 17:13
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Roman posted:Huh, guess I should do something with this. Will probably put Ranger on it. What difficulty did that drop on?
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Mar 8, 2020 17:15
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Roman posted:Huh, guess I should do something with this. Will probably put Ranger on it. Damage roll is slightly too high, shred it imho
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Mar 8, 2020 17:20
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Cyrano4747 posted:What difficulty did that drop on?
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Mar 8, 2020 17:29
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So, I just hit World Tier 1 and decided to grab the expansion pack to show some support, having got the base game for so cheap. Is there any point to facing off against the Black Tusk to retake the city repeatedly? Or should I use the upgrade and beeline straight for NYC?
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Mar 8, 2020 17:31
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how is the compability between expension owners and those who don't own WONY? does it work once I'm able to get back to washington to join up again with people who only have the basic version?
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Mar 8, 2020 17:34
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Mr. Carlisle posted:Attempting to before he mows me down, yes. I'm not what you'd call 'really good' at this game, I'll admit. It's most likely a me problem but I'm just having a much tougher time with him than any of the previous three. This is my farming spot. Trying to get the Bullet King. I've probably done it 25+ times in the last few days solo and in groups. Take out the trash spawns in the beginning until one or two are left. Then go to the middle island with the ammo boxes and place an assault turret on the box thing on the counter right above the ammo boxes. Take out the remaining guys then retreat to near the entrance to the room. As the lights go out and the smoke drop throw out an Striker Drone. More times than not Dragov and friends will spawn between you and the turret. This will give the turret some easy back shots while you move around with some good cover. There are probably better ways to do this since I suck but it works for me.
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Mar 8, 2020 17:42
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Every Man Jack posted:So, I just hit World Tier 1 and decided to grab the expansion pack to show some support, having got the base game for so cheap. You’ll get some context for what’s happening in NY by going through the missions that came out before it but if you don’t care about it then you may as well boost.
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Mar 8, 2020 17:51
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The new legendary missions are about what could be expected. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CyfNzJrQotc 80 minutes of holding down left mouse button and kiting poo poo through half the level as it doesn' t die. The rewards are more or less equal to what you get from grand washington hotel on challenging.
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Mar 8, 2020 17:57
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lagidnam posted:The new legendary missions are about what could be expected. but the bragging rights...
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Mar 8, 2020 18:34
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smellmycheese posted:I know Reddit is furious about the changes in enemy AI and TTK but the changes to the recal library and essentially allowing you to collect up the talents and attributes like a scrapbook is such an incredibly good idea. In general the gear 2.0 system is, IMO, a wild success. I know they can get a little glitchy but the arrows on gear letting you know where your best recal-value is, the way it highlights the potential improvement for any attribute in the library, pretty much all the UI stuff is extraordinarily good poo poo. the ttk is also definitely too high.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:48
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Recalibration library is good. Requiring me to go to the recalibration table to individually select gear slots/gun categories and select specific slots for every one with a timed button press is bad. Let me pick something up while marking it for recalibration. Then one button to throw whatever improvements are in the lot into the library and deconstruct the rest.
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Mar 8, 2020 18:56
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I never got past gear score 301 pre-expansion, but I just finished WoNY and am wondering what I should be doing. Is it now just upping my gear and trying to take on the World Difficulty stuff? Or is there a list of things I should be doing?
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Mar 8, 2020 19:04
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jabro posted:This is my farming spot. Trying to get the Bullet King. I've probably done it 25+ times in the last few days solo and in groups. Take out the trash spawns in the beginning until one or two are left. Then go to the middle island with the ammo boxes and place an assault turret on the box thing on the counter right above the ammo boxes. Take out the remaining guys then retreat to near the entrance to the room. As the lights go out and the smoke drop throw out an Striker Drone. More times than not Dragov and friends will spawn between you and the turret. This will give the turret some easy back shots while you move around with some good cover. Finally finished him solo by circling around the room in cover over and over and plinking away at feet when no miniguns were available. I'm definitely going to try your method next time through though, thanks for the advice.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:22
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Blind Rasputin posted:I’ve been doing this with shotguns and it’s very gratifying because they do a kind of forward gasping flip as you cut their legs out from under them. 
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Mar 8, 2020 19:31
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Not when its an automatic shotgun. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WOoUVeyaY_8
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Mar 8, 2020 19:36
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Blind Duke posted:Let me pick something up while marking it for recalibration. Then one button to throw whatever improvements are in the lot into the library and deconstruct the rest. They'd need to let you mark which specific stat you want to rip since one piece of gear might have multiple candidates. That would rule though. Building up your library makes the gear hunt way more fun but yeah, spending 20 minutes with that UI is real drake no vibes.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:42
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In the TTK category, probably the most annoying thing I've noticed so far (still in Story) is that the drones are all but impossible to target and kill before they get to me now, whereas in DC I was really good at taking drones out of the sky. Even red drones absorb a huge amount of damage to bring down, and now they throw a lot more drones in the air at once it seems, making me just get shot up a bunch while I'm dodging drone explosions that I couldn't kill before they got to me. Of course it might be that I'm just bad. I know my gear/setup is probably bad, but at level 40 a rifle that hits for 150k (235k headshots) takes 4 or 5 hits to drop red guys, and seems like it takes just as much damage to drop the drones, whereas before they didn't feel nearly that tanky.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:49
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The Locator posted:
I think this is a larger problem with rifles in general. They need to up the damage they do. THey do more than assault rifles, to be sure, but you just can't spam shots anywhere near as fast, which leads to you taking way longer to kill a red with 3 or 4 shots than just a fast burst of half a mag from an AR. I suspect they over-corrected at some point. I remember early in Div 1 an M14 with all the stab mods you could put in it was the meta for slaughtering poo poo because it was basically a rapid fire sniper rifle.
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Mar 8, 2020 19:58
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The Locator posted:In the TTK category, probably the most annoying thing I've noticed so far (still in Story) is that the drones are all but impossible to target and kill before they get to me now, whereas in DC I was really good at taking drones out of the sky. Even red drones absorb a huge amount of damage to bring down, and now they throw a lot more drones in the air at once it seems, making me just get shot up a bunch while I'm dodging drone explosions that I couldn't kill before they got to me. No it’s not you. Drones def come at you much faster now and have more Health. They’re on top of you dropping fire bombs before you can get a lock on it
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Cyrano4747 posted:I think this is a larger problem with rifles in general. They need to up the damage they do. THey do more than assault rifles, to be sure, but you just can't spam shots anywhere near as fast, which leads to you taking way longer to kill a red with 3 or 4 shots than just a fast burst of half a mag from an AR. I was just using the rifle as example damage. I also have been running an AR, and before swapping to try out the rifle, LMG. All of them are having trouble knocking drones down. I enjoy the aim/fire play of the rifle, but it would certainly be nice if they did more damage. I forget what rifle I have (SSR something maybe?), but it's the only yellow/40 one I've found so it may be far from the best one.
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