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Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

DukeDuke posted:

Uphold Gavin Newsom Thought on Socialism with Californian Characteristics

new thread title pls

# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:50

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# ? May 17, 2024 00:33

Fill Baptismal: Dec 15, 2008

Gavin pretty clearly wants to run for President one day and wants to have some shiny achievements under his belt for the dem primaries.

I mean, I�ll take it. How the system is supposed to work after all.

# ? Mar 7, 2020 01:56

FilthyImp: Sep 30, 2002; Anime Deviant

Kill Bristol posted:

How the system is supposed to work after all.

If he Nationalizes PG&E and is able to transform it into something useful, maybe improving our grid in the process, then yeah go ahead and run with that feather in your cap.

# ? Mar 7, 2020 02:02

MickeyFinn: May 8, 2007; Biggie Smalls and Junior Mafia some mark ass bitches

The Clitoris posted:

This happens to me all the time because I'm in Oil and Gas. I get a ton of Trumperism and global warming denialism on the beat. It sucks, and I hate it.

A peak
https://www.latimes.com/environment/story/2020-03-05/deserted-oil-wells-los-angeles-toxic-fumes-cleanup-costs

That's strange, I would have assumed they'd never even seen you.

# ? Mar 7, 2020 16:17

America Inc.: Nov 22, 2013; I plan to live forever, of course, but barring that I'd settle for a couple thousand years. Even 500 would be pretty nice.

I'm probably not the only person here that reads the Chronicle but drat

quote:

A Placer County man who died last week from coronavirus almost certainly became infected before he boarded a cruise ship from San Francisco to Mexico on Feb. 11, suggesting that he was exposed to the virus in the community and it has been circulating in parts of California for longer than previously reported, according to a cruise ship doctor.

Dr. Grant Tarling, chief medical officer for Carnival Corporation, which operates the Grand Princess cruise ship on which the Placer County resident had traveled, said that the man was seen by a ship doctor on Feb. 20 for serious respiratory problems. The man told the doctor that he had been feeling unwell for six or seven days, Tarling said.

That would mean the man first had symptoms on Feb. 13 or Feb. 14 — two or three days after boarding the ship in San Francisco. People infected with the coronavirus typically show symptoms no sooner than four days after exposure, studies have found.

“That would have put his exposure period before he joined the vessel,” Tarling said. “So we believe his illness was probably community acquired somewhere in California before he joined the ship.”

So far 30 people who were on the Grand Princess on one of two recent voyages have tested positive for coronavirus. Tarling believes that the Placer County man is the “index case” at the center of the outbreak.

The first reported case of community infection in the United States was Feb. 26, involving a Solano County woman who tested positive while she was hospitalized in Sacramento with serious illness. If the Placer County man was infected by a community exposure, that would mean the virus has been circulating in California for two weeks longer than earlier reports.

Some infectious disease experts believe that the virus probably has been circulating to some degree in the United States since early February or even January.

The timeframe of the Placer County man’s illness is not confirmed, and it’s still possible he became infected while on the ship. It’s possible that he misreported the timing of his symptoms. Also, some studies have found that the incubation period for coronavirus can be as short as one or two days.

America Inc. fucked around with this message at 10:30 on Mar 8, 2020

# ? Mar 8, 2020 10:22

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

CA is not doing a good job managing this.

LA isn�t even really testing people and there are doctors begging for it.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 10:39

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

I mean Newsom just waived all testing fees for the virus. What more do you want, him to deploy the CDC and go door to door?

# ? Mar 8, 2020 10:40

Sheogorath: Mar 29, 2007

Could ask the UC system to start making kits and testing for virus. Its not a hard assay to perform we could do thousands of tests a day no problem just on my campus. From my understanding there is no current push to do so by any biology-adjacent department.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 13:44

etalian: Mar 20, 2006

DukeDuke posted:

Uphold Gavin Newsom Thought on Socialism with Californian Characteristics

# ? Mar 8, 2020 14:12

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

Sheogorath posted:

Could ask the UC system to start making kits and testing for virus. Its not a hard assay to perform we could do thousands of tests a day no problem just on my campus. From my understanding there is no current push to do so by any biology-adjacent department.

Get all the striking grad students to do it.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 17:07

withak: Jan 15, 2003; Fun Shoe

Of course the plague originated in Placer County.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 17:55

Aeka 2.0: Nov 16, 2000; Have you seen my apex seals? I seem to have lost them.; Dinosaur Gum

DukeDuke posted:

The only people who ever post comments on local news websites are from the homeowner/retiree petit-bourgeoisie, and their opinions on fiscal issues are always lovely and sociopathic.

I made the mistake of signing up for nextdoor. Its worse than facebook.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 18:21

The Wiggly Wizard: Aug 21, 2008

I hope someone is in the works to primary Kamala Harris in 2022. What a pathetic endorsement after what she brought up in the debates AND the California primary results.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 19:37

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

Cup Runneth Over posted:

I mean Newsom just waived all testing fees for the virus. What more do you want, him to deploy the CDC and go door to door?

They could actually start testing people?

Sheogorath posted:

Could ask the UC system to start making kits and testing for virus. Its not a hard assay to perform we could do thousands of tests a day no problem just on my campus. From my understanding there is no current push to do so by any biology-adjacent department.

Also this.

But yes I actually want the governor to go door to door that�s exactly what should happen. 🙄

To expand on it. Ca is quick to stand up to the government on other poo poo but with this they 100% are dragging their feet and letting the Feds take the lead.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 19:49

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

This was two days ago.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 19:53

Fill Baptismal: Dec 15, 2008

American public health is a mess of heavily decentralized and overlapping jurisdictions. The ability of people of like Newsom to unilaterally impose policy or guidelines on them is a lot less than you�d think.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 20:20

MarcusSA: Sep 23, 2007

Well this why the LA county number is so low.

quote:

This message is intended for all health care providers practicing in Los Angeles County.
Please distribute as appropriate.
There is a very limited supply of SARS-CoV-2 testing available to Los Angeles County at this time. Until testing is more widely available, testing must be reserved for patients with severe illness and the close contacts of confirmed cases of coronavirus disease 2019 (COVID-19).
Key Messages

The Los Angeles County Department of Public Health (LAC DPH) is authorizing the adoption of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) contingency capacity strategies for healthcare facilities experiencing critical shortages of N95 respirators. LAC DPH has created guidance to allow for the use of N95 respirators beyond their manufacturer-designated shelf life and the limited reuse and extended use of N95 respirators to help with increased demands and decreased supplies.

Healthcare providers should contact LAC DPH to arrange for SARS-CoV-2 testing for any patients that meet the current LAC DPH COVID-19 Evaluation Criteria outlined in the February 29 LAHAN and included below.

Due to the very limited supply of SARS-CoV-2 testing available to Los Angeles County at this time, testing is being restricted for use in patients with severe illness and those who are known close contacts to confirmed cases. Patients with mild illness who do not meet the current LAC DPH COVID-19 Evaluation Criteria should be instructed to follow home care instructions and do not need to be reported to LAC DPH.

Manage patients with mild illness at home according to their clinical status. Due to the limited availability of SARS-CoV-2 testing at this time, patients with mild presentations who do not meet the LAC DPH COVID-19 Evaluation Criteria are not eligible to receive SARS-CoV-2 testing and do not need to be reported to DPH. Supportive care is recommended. Instruct patients to follow home care instructions including:
Stay home for at least 24 hours after the resolution of febrile illness without the use of fever-reducing medicines.
Phone their provider if symptoms worsen.
Note: Consider more active monitoring of older adults and those with co-morbid medical conditions as they may be at higher risk of developing severe disease.

Actions Recommended for Health Care Systems and Clinics
Distribute messaging to patients about staying home when sick with fever or cold or flu symptoms.
Post signs asking visitors with fever and/or cold and flu symptoms to defer hospital visits.
Skilled nursing facilities (SNF) should consider stopping in-person visitation of residents. Instead, virtual visitation using alternative modes of contact such as videoconferencing or telephone should be encouraged. Visitation could introduce COVID-19 into vulnerable SNF populations and should be limited as much as possible until the threat of COVID-19 has diminished.
Remind all staff to stay home and not come to work if sick with symptoms of febrile respiratory illness until they are free of fever for at least 24 hours without the use of fever-reducing medicines. Defer from requiring a doctor�s note for return to work, when possible.
Create systems to reduce the number of people with mild illness that present for care such as through the use of telephone triage, counseling call line, and any other means available.
Anticipate a potentially large increase in the number of persons presenting for evaluation and clinical care related to COVID-19 in the coming weeks, including those requiring hospitalization.
Assure adequate supplies of N95 respirators (see below for more information).
Actively review facility pandemic readiness.

Assure Adequate Supplies of N95 Respirators
Increased demands for N95 respirators and limited supplies could result in shortages in health care settings.
LAC DPH Guidance for Optimizing Limited Supplies of N95 Respirators provides guidance to allow for the use of N95 respirators beyond their manufacturer-designated shelf life and the limited reuse and extended use of N95 respirators to help with increased demands and decreased supplies. If this strategy is used, it is important to prepare as it requires specialized planning, training and education to ensure healthcare worker and patient safety.
In the setting of a respirator or mask shortage, healthcare facilities can apply for additional supplies through the mechanisms below. Please note that unless your facility will entirely deplete its current supply, you should defer requests until March 11, 2020 when more supplies will be available through local and state caches.

Reporting
Patients not meeting COVID-19 evaluation criteria do not need to be reported.

RIP those healthcare workers too.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 20:30

Bizarro Watt: May 30, 2010; My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns.

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

I hope someone is in the works to primary Kamala Harris in 2022. What a pathetic endorsement after what she brought up in the debates AND the California primary results.

John Chiang sighed as he drew his katana

# ? Mar 8, 2020 22:41

BeAuMaN: Feb 18, 2014; I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

MarcusSA posted:

Well this why the LA county number is so low.

RIP those healthcare workers too.

re: mask stuff
Googled related to this, and apparently the CDC strategy referenced on using old stockpiles of masks is this::
https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/release-stockpiled-N95.html

Noteable:

quote:

Users should take the following precautionary measures prior to using the respirator in the workplace.

Visually inspect the N95 to determine if its integrity has been compromised.
Check that components such as the straps, nose bridge, and nose foam material did not degrade, which can affect the quality of the fit, and seal and therefore the effectiveness of the respirator.
If the integrity of any part of the respirator is compromised, or if a successful user seal check cannot be performed, discard the respirator and try another respirator.
Users should perform a user seal check immediately after they don each respirator and should not use a respirator on which they cannot perform a successful user seal check.

And then the tests from the batches: https://www.cdc.gov/niosh/npptl/ppecase.html

As I mentioned in a previous post when people were asking about masks for fire, stuff like the N95 or n99 on filters out particulates, so there's no chemical filtration element (at least in cases run across), but only a phsyical filter that doesn't break down that easily. So the stuff they're worried about breaking down seems to be the straps and foam, and the stuff that goes against the bridge of the nose. If it's stored correctly it should be fine, and if they have people inspect the masks it should be fine.

(Also not an expert here, but I remember looking this stuff up when I was buying masks. Anyone who knows more feel free to call out whatever stuff in my post.)

# ? Mar 8, 2020 22:43

Fill Baptismal: Dec 15, 2008

Chiang loving sucks because he supported not paying legislators in the event of a budget showdown, effectively giving massive leverage to already wealthy politicians over the ones who actually rely on their salary to live. It�s stupid faux populist bullshit that tilts things massively towards the wealthy.

gently caress Chiang.

Delaine Easton, though....

# ? Mar 8, 2020 22:46

Wicked Them Beats: Apr 1, 2007; Moralists don't really *have* beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded.

Tom Steyer's probably going to try and unseat Harris (assuming Feinstein doesn't give up the ghost and Steyer can't manage to ~~buy~~ talk his way into the open seat via appointment).

I don't know if Idiot Billionaire is a trade up or a lateral move from Self-Aggrandizing Cop.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 22:58

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

Wicked Them Beats posted:

Tom Steyer's probably going to try and unseat Harris (assuming Feinstein doesn't give up the ghost and Steyer can't manage to ~~buy~~ talk his way into the open seat via appointment).

I don't know if Idiot Billionaire is a trade up or a lateral move from Self-Aggrandizing Cop.

Based on their presidential campaigns I'd probably support Steyer over Harris, even though they both kinda suck.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 22:59

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

Kill Bristol posted:

Chiang loving sucks because he supported not paying legislators in the event of a budget showdown, effectively giving massive leverage to already wealthy politicians over the ones who actually rely on their salary to live. It�s stupid faux populist bullshit that tilts things massively towards the wealthy.

gently caress Chiang.

Delaine Easton, though....

That's a really dumb position for him to have taken considering the big political highlight of his career so far was when he told Arnold to pound sand when he ordered Chiang to cut a bunch of state workers' salaries down to minimum wage until his budget got passed.

# ? Mar 8, 2020 23:09

Qtotonibudinibudet: Nov 7, 2011; Omich poluyobok, skazhi ty narkoman? ya prosto tozhe gde to tam zhivu, mogli by vmeste uyobyvat' narkotiki

The Wiggly Wizard posted:

I hope someone is in the works to primary Kamala Harris in 2022. What a pathetic endorsement after what she brought up in the debates AND the California primary results.

Summon Kevin de Leon!

# ? Mar 9, 2020 00:45

slicing up eyeballs: Oct 19, 2005; I got me two olives and a couple of limes

some fun new covid info, apparently we can blame Washington for some of our cases

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1236802503393464327?s=19

# ? Mar 9, 2020 01:02

BeAuMaN: Feb 18, 2014; I'M A LEAD FARMER, MOTHERFUCKER!

slicing up eyeballs posted:

some fun new covid info, apparently we can blame Washington for some of our cases

https://twitter.com/mattdpearce/status/1236802503393464327?s=19

Is this a reverse of the thing where Washingtonians complain about all the Californians going to their state?

# ? Mar 9, 2020 01:16

Bizarro Watt: May 30, 2010; My responsibility is to follow the Scriptures which call upon us to occupy the land until Jesus returns.

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

Summon Kevin de Leon!

Based on past experience I wouldn't be surprised if de Leon ended up in the runoff with Harris and then outright endorsed her.

# ? Mar 9, 2020 01:23

luminalflux: May 27, 2005

Please let it not be Xavier Becerra, he�s doing actual AG work

# ? Mar 9, 2020 02:07

Cup Runneth Over: Aug 8, 2009; She said life's
Too short to worry
Life's too long to wait
It's too short
Not to love everybody
Life's too long to hate

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

Summon Kevin de Leon!

Why, so he can throw it and re-elect her again?

# ? Mar 9, 2020 02:34

Bodhidharma: Jul 2, 2011; "virgin no more! virgin no more!" i continue to insist as i slowly shrink and transform into a corn cob

Barbara Lee would make a really great Senator, but I doubt she will run for the office.

# ? Mar 9, 2020 02:48

luminalflux: May 27, 2005

I had a bad revelation - will London Breed run for senate in 22? Or will she wait until someone finds Feinstein's phylactery?

# ? Mar 9, 2020 06:15

Doc Hawkins: Jun 15, 2010; Dashing? But I'm not even moving!

i think weiner intends to replace pelosi, and breed intends to be an imperial mayor

# ? Mar 9, 2020 17:47

Spazzle: Jul 5, 2003

Does anyone have substantive objections to Weiner, or are the complaints I see just boomer moaning about how he is working to increase housing density?

# ? Mar 9, 2020 18:02

Rainbow Knight: Apr 19, 2006; We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

MickeyFinn posted:

That's strange, I would have assumed they'd never even seen you.

# ? Mar 9, 2020 18:12

Henrik Zetterberg: Dec 7, 2007

withak posted:

Of course the plague originated in Placer County.

What's wrong with Placer? Just because it isn't bright-rear end blue? I live there and enjoy it.

# ? Mar 9, 2020 18:18

CPColin: Sep 9, 2003; Big ol' smile.

It's spelled "Placer", but pronounced "Plasser", for one.

# ? Mar 9, 2020 18:36

luminalflux: May 27, 2005

Also Placerville isn�t in it but in El Dorado county

# ? Mar 9, 2020 18:38

Sydin: Oct 29, 2011; Another spring commute

CMYK BLYAT! posted:

Summon Kevin de Leon!

I still have no goddamn idea what the point of his campaign was. Just to raise his profile in the state a bit to plant the seeds of a future, actually serious run? Or maybe he actually intended to seriously challenge Feinstein at first before he got slapped down by the California DNC? It's just baffling to me that he raised big noise over challenging Feinstein from the left and then just... didn't actually bother to run a campaign after that.

# ? Mar 9, 2020 18:49

Megaman's Jockstrap: Jul 16, 2000; What a horrible thread to have a post.

"You'll never work in this town again" can cow a lot of people.

# ? Mar 9, 2020 18:56

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# ? May 17, 2024 00:33

The Wiggly Wizard: Aug 21, 2008

Sydin posted:

I still have no goddamn idea what the point of his campaign was. Just to raise his profile in the state a bit to plant the seeds of a future, actually serious run? Or maybe he actually intended to seriously challenge Feinstein at first before he got slapped down by the California DNC? It's just baffling to me that he raised big noise over challenging Feinstein from the left and then just... didn't actually bother to run a campaign after that.

Probably a combo of not enough resources or political courage

# ? Mar 9, 2020 19:14

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