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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
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R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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OwlFancier
Aug 22, 2013

Even with the testicular trauma theme I continue to recommend punching yourself in the balls rather than hate reading the guardian.

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Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Pistol_Pete posted:

I'm waiting eagerly for the Guardian to produce its inevitable sanctimonious, bitterly angry opinion piece about Trevor Philips' suspension and what it says about the moral decay of the Labour Party, so I can read it and get cross. This probably isn't good for my health.

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

baka kaba posted:

oh ok I get ya. And yeah don't worry, our capable PM says everyone should just catch it so clearly it's all under control

I really don't understand these idiots sometimes. When China, a country totally not synonymous with human rights, health and safety or value of human life in general is willing to jam the brakes on their economy come hell or high water and take extraordinary measures to contain the threat, most of the West is content to sit around waiting for the poo poo to hit the fan instead of trying to make any concerted effort to mitigate the threat. Even if you accept that it's spread too far to be effectively contained, there has been no real effort to stockpile essential supplies or reorganize hospitals to face the incoming bloodshed.

Everyone needs to read that Italian surgeon's testimony. The initial thought of how OTT everything was being, then the realisation that all of that would never be enough and that the critically ill people would just not stop coming. Lots of people are going to die because there just aren't enough resources to care for everyone. "Care in the community" means loss of valuable beds in hospital and the drive for "efficiency" means there is no slack left in the system. Even after all of this (and we will survive), you are going to have a hideously traumatised workforce. You can only choose to let/see so many people die before it gets to you. While there are a fair few sociopaths in the medical profession, I predict a wave of doctors/nurses leaving on stress leave after all this is over.

I wish I could @jabby here because they are going to be on the super sharp end of the stick and I wish them all the best.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Guavanaut posted:

The two balls should have different medical names, I propose levicle and dexticle.

Anyway hope you got on okay, get well soon.

Mine are called Havoc and Malice

XMNN posted:

epididymitis

it is extremely not fun, but at least I'm probably not going to lose it

I was a bit blasé when the nurse asked if I cared if I saw a male doctor (even if I was bothered, I'm not sure how prudish you'd have to be to voluntarily wait longer to have a man examine your swollen ball) but I wasn't expecting her to be (probably) younger than me which was a little disconcerting tbh

I suppose the fact several of my friends are now junior doctors should have prepared me for the concept, though

When I needed my phimosis dealt with a few years ago, I obviously had to see a specialist before they'd actually determine the best course of action and stuff. I was surprised to find the penis inspector was a very cute woman.

Testicle pain yay!

e;
https://twitter.com/peterduggal/status/1237054839538016256

Ms Adequate fucked around with this message at 19:56 on Mar 9, 2020

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
lol @ roast beef

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Guavanaut posted:

lol @ roast beef

I'm torn between believing this is a disgraceful event that highlights just how morally and aesthetically bankrupt the English publicke are, and believing this is due to the foresight of production and logistics in making sure that the best flavor is always in stock even in a time of crisis

Prince John
Jun 20, 2006

Oh, poppycock! Female bandits?

Regarde Aduck posted:

What are you stressing about? There's very little chance you won't get it. All you can do is minimize the chances but to what end? You might just delay displaying symptoms till the exact point where the hospitals are overloaded. So trying to manage it seems pointless as well.

Sorry, no sources, but I remember reading something reputable looking that said even under worst case scenarios you were only something like 40-50% likely to contract it, so it may not be all that inevitable.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
wash your hands, take vitamin d, exercise. not much else you can do really.

CGI Stardust
Nov 7, 2010


Brexit is but a door,
election time is but a window.

I'll be back

Guavanaut posted:

lol @ roast beef

Chuka Umana
Apr 30, 2019

by sebmojo
Lol at everyone panic buying so much they had to reintroduce wartime rationing. The public is loving nuts.

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

CODVID-19 must be causing some serious brain damage if people are picking pickled onion over the vastly superior roast beef

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Looke posted:

CODVID-19 must be causing some serious brain damage if people are picking pickled onion over the vastly superior roast beef

thats a ban

Looke
Aug 2, 2013

it's spread to the mods RIP

Sanford
Jun 30, 2007

...and rarely post!


Been back following this thread for less than a fortnight and got in a massive row with my sister about trans rights. You people, honestly. Bad influences for sure.

EdBlackadder
Apr 8, 2009
Lipstick Apathy

baka kaba posted:

because of transmission to others through cat or is there a risk to pets too?

what's the deal with doctors anyway, are you meant to self-isolate if you saw a patient and you weren't taking precautions? And is it basically up to the 2-week point after you saw the person, so you'd either have it by now or not? Just wondering because if things start to spike I'm wondering how they're gonna keep people safe

Hope you're ok though! Watch some cat videos at least

Transmission via pets I think, I don't believe pets can catch it. Same with my dogs but they're easier to keep out of a room.

Z the IVth posted:

Right now its some variation of 'test, self-isolate and test again if you become symptomatic' depending on the trust. As things get worse though I fully expect it to be 'sod testing, all the patients have it anyway' and you keep working until you drop. Much like what's happened/happening in Wuhan and Italy.


In GP-land we're talking about respiratory clinics in one location and shifting to as much telephone and online consulting as possible.

Pistol_Pete
Sep 15, 2007

Oven Wrangler

Z the IVth posted:

I really don't understand these idiots sometimes. When China, a country totally not synonymous with human rights, health and safety or value of human life in general is willing to jam the brakes on their economy come hell or high water and take extraordinary measures to contain the threat, most of the West is content to sit around waiting for the poo poo to hit the fan instead of trying to make any concerted effort to mitigate the threat. Even if you accept that it's spread too far to be effectively contained, there has been no real effort to stockpile essential supplies or reorganize hospitals to face the incoming bloodshed.



My boss at work today: "Hmm, there are some great holiday bargains at the moment! I might fly the family to Portugal for a long weekend!"

Other colleagues: "This corona thing isn't going to be as bad as all that, surely."

My parents on the phone tonight: "It all seems a bit overblown to us! It's just a bad case of the flu, isn't it?"

Yeah, people are so drat complacent about what's clearly coming from looking at how it's developed in Italy, Iran and China. Like I posted the other day, there'll come a point in the near future when even the most incurious, "I don't watch the news" people are going to understand that this is real and then they'll switch seamlessly into panic mode.

Trades
Aug 3, 2013
Speaking from the acute medical wards re Coronavirus, we’ve as of the weekend moved onto the ‘delay’ phase - we’re now screening all respiratory admissions for the virus, and isolating them until the swabs come back.

The slight issues being we do no have the isolation facilities (ie side rooms) the PPE or the staff training to achieve this on the wards people are moving to, and the test takes 48-72 hours to come back. So predictably the service and the staff are in meltdown today.

Presumably the next step is a wave of staff presenting with symptoms and the resultant quarantines, and given every imaginable rota is already short it’s looking a bit grim.

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


I've spent the entire day unproductively watching Bloomberg & F5'ing the Doomsday Economics thread. Has anything actually happened in UK politics?

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Guavanaut posted:

The two balls should have different medical names, I propose levicle and dexticle.

Anyway hope you got on okay, get well soon.

Dexticle and sexticle imo

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe
Though cowards flinch and traitors sneer...

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jel Shaker posted:

Dexticle and sexticle imo
Aren't they all sexticles?

forkboy84 posted:

I've spent the entire day unproductively watching Bloomberg
Did he do any racisms?

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid
wish I'd asked the nice lady for some pain killers but didn't want to sound like a junky

if I go into a pharmacy and go into graphic detail, will they give me cocodamol??

e: tbh it was more because I didn't really think about it, but the last time I tried to get something OTC they did give me a bit of a "perhaps you'd prefer one of these"

although i was trying to get dextromethorphan cough syrup and I think I had the wrong sort of cough

XMNN fucked around with this message at 21:16 on Mar 9, 2020

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


XMNN posted:

wish I'd asked the nice lady for some pain killers but didn't want to sound like a junky

if I go into a pharmacy and go into graphic detail, will they give me cocodamol??

No. You might call 111 though I guess for an emergency prescription, or see a GP.

Trades
Aug 3, 2013
They’ll give you the 8/500 you can get without a prescription. I mean that and regular ibuprofen will definitely help

Cerv
Sep 14, 2004

This is a silly post with little news value.

I want to catch the corona virus by the end of the month.


Thai authorities have cancelled all public Song Kran celebrations, and the circuit party I’ve booked tickets for has been “postponed” by the organisers until next year. Makes my whole trip a bit pointless. But travel insurance won’t pay out for a cancelation that’s by your own choice. If I had a medical certificate that I couldn’t travel however, I’d be covered.

Or the government could ban visitors / flights from the UK, since we do have more cases than them so far. That’d work too.

Private Speech
Mar 30, 2011

I HAVE EVEN MORE WORTHLESS BEANIE BABIES IN MY COLLECTION THAN I HAVE WORTHLESS POSTS IN THE BEANIE BABY THREAD YET I STILL HAVE THE TEMERITY TO CRITICIZE OTHERS' COLLECTIONS

IF YOU SEE ME TALKING ABOUT BEANIE BABIES, PLEASE TELL ME TO

EAT. SHIT.


Trades posted:

They’ll give you the 8/500 you can get without a prescription. I mean that and regular ibuprofen will definitely help

I thought that was prescription only? I have very little knowledge of anything medical but internet says so, as per: https://www.medicines.org.uk/emc/product/5958/pil

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal
You can get Paramol OTC. Dihydrocodeine/ paracetamol.

CoolCab
Apr 17, 2005

glem
oh you can get co-codamol otc. you can get good cough syrup, codeine linctus, also - i kind of wanna get some of that in case i get a chest infection or something - but not at most pharmacies. i think there's some goofy wax based morphine medicine that's also technically OTC

Trades
Aug 3, 2013
https://www.nhs.uk/medicines/co-codamol-adults/

8/500 available from pharmacies, the higher strengths are prescription only

Random Integer
Oct 7, 2010

Pistol_Pete posted:

My parents on the phone tonight: "It all seems a bit overblown to us! It's just a bad case of the flu, isn't it?"

"Its like the flu" is an analogy thats going to cause a lot of problems because most people think the common cold is the flu and have never experienced the real deal. I wonder if 'pneumonia' would have been a better analogy because Im pretty sure nobody is brushing off 'a mild case of pneumonia'.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

CoolCab posted:

oh you can get co-codamol otc. you can get good cough syrup, codeine linctus, also - i kind of wanna get some of that in case i get a chest infection or something - but not at most pharmacies. i think there's some goofy wax based morphine medicine that's also technically OTC
J. Collis Browne's Mixture is morphine and peppermint oil, and is OTC. I think the manufacturers have stopped making it though. :(

Z the IVth
Jan 28, 2009

The trouble with your "expendable machines"
Fun Shoe

EdBlackadder posted:

In GP-land we're talking about respiratory clinics in one location and shifting to as much telephone and online consulting as possible.

We're trying to fast-track our telephone service but I warned all my colleagues that our clinics were going to be turned into a ward and we were about to be re-drafted as FY1s when the poo poo really hits the fan.

Ms Adequate
Oct 30, 2011

Baby even when I'm dead and gone
You will always be my only one, my only one
When the night is calling
No matter who I become
You will always be my only one, my only one, my only one
When the night is calling



Solidarity with the healthcare goons who are currently going into battle.

Jaeluni Asjil
Apr 18, 2018

Sorry I thought you were a landlord when I gave you your old avatar!

Jel Shaker posted:

Dexticle and sexticle imo

Aren't those the names of two of Rees-Mogg's kids?

Guavanaut posted:

J. Collis Browne's Mixture is morphine and peppermint oil, and is OTC. I think the manufacturers have stopped making it though. :(

If you visit some really old people they might still have some from before the war. I remember my landlady in 1982 dosing me up with it - wow!

Z the IVth posted:

We're trying to fast-track our telephone service but I warned all my colleagues that our clinics were going to be turned into a ward and we were about to be re-drafted as FY1s when the poo poo really hits the fan.

What is a FY1?

Julio Cruz
May 19, 2006

if Trump gets coronavirus I will laugh until I pass out

mehall
Aug 27, 2010


Random Integer posted:

"Its like the flu" is an analogy thats going to cause a lot of problems because most people think the common cold is the flu and have never experienced the real deal.

Yeah, there's a lot of that.

The method I heard recently to teach people if it's the flu is this -

Imagine someone text you right now and said they'd left £50 in an envelope for you on your front step.
If you don't go right now, someone else will probably find it.

If you don't have the energy to get up for the money, it's the flu.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

If you’re really in pain you can go over the recommended brufen dose of three times a day (not the paracetamol though , ever)

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

If you visit some really old people they might still have some from before the war. I remember my landlady in 1982 dosing me up with it - wow!
I bought some in Boots last year, I still have some in the fridge. It's only very recently they seem to have stopped making it, which is piss because it's far better than immodium or anything else for stomach upsets.

Trades
Aug 3, 2013

Jaeluni Asjil posted:

What is a FY1?

A doctor in their first year post university (foundation year 1). Typically ward dogsbodies, doing bloods, lines, and all the medical admin work like making referrals, requesting tests, writing discharge letters.

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EdBlackadder
Apr 8, 2009
Lipstick Apathy

Z the IVth posted:

We're trying to fast-track our telephone service but I warned all my colleagues that our clinics were going to be turned into a ward and we were about to be re-drafted as FY1s when the poo poo really hits the fan.

My partners are split between thinking this will happen and thinking it will be swine flu all over again.

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