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Cody is like Triple H if he had good matches, connected with fans, and put people over, which means he's absolutely nothing like Triple H.
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Mar 9, 2020 23:36
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Every graduate of the Nightmare Factory will be forced to get a neck tattoo and pose for a selfie with Cody
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Mar 9, 2020 23:37
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J Snowden is replying a lot at Alvarez. Alvarez isn't giving a gently caress lol
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Mar 10, 2020 00:31
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Benne posted:Cody is like Triple H if he had good matches, connected with fans, and put people over, which means he's absolutely nothing like Triple H. Also if his promos were half as long and half as frequent and often had the self awareness to put over the fact that he had screwed up and allowed the other guy to outsmart him and back him into a corner through his arrogance.
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Mar 10, 2020 00:46
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how many HHH promos/segments during the aughts were half as great as the dippin dots brawl?
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Mar 10, 2020 01:02
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Benne posted:Cody is like Triple H if he had good matches, connected with fans, and put people over, which means he's absolutely nothing like Triple H. Hey pal I’ll have you know HHH was the best wrestler in the world 20 years ago
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Mar 10, 2020 01:08
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Yeah HHH had a really really good year and then his body exploded and was never the same again. It's sad, really.
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Mar 10, 2020 01:17
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oldpainless posted:Hey pal I’ll have you know HHH was the best wrestler in the world 20 years ago But Toshiaki Kawada was the best wrestler in the world 20 years ago 
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Mar 10, 2020 01:19
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Venomous posted:But Toshiaki Kawada was the best wrestler in the world 20 years ago I meant the fiscal year
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Mar 10, 2020 01:22
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oldpainless posted:I meant the fiscal year Oh, so Jun Akiyama then
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Mar 10, 2020 01:26
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coconono posted:if you didn't think Hogan visiting the Dungeon of Doom was the coolest thing ever, I dunno. Overproduced drama has a home in wrestling. Overproduced drama, sure, but Hogan visiting the Dungeon of Doom was more "overproduced farce." Venomous posted:But Toshiaki Kawada was the best wrestler in the world 20 years ago 
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Mar 10, 2020 02:06
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A wrestler having good matches in All Japan or Pro Wrestling NOAH is par for the course. HHH managing to have good matches in WWE is frankly incredible. Have you seen how bad this company is?
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Mar 10, 2020 02:16
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MassRafTer posted:A wrestler having good matches in All Japan or Pro Wrestling NOAH is par for the course. this makes Tajiri the best worker in the world for having great matches in 2000 ECW
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Mar 10, 2020 02:21
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hunnert car pileup posted:this makes Tajiri the best worker in the world for having great matches in 2000 ECW I'd actually be ok with that but I don't want to endorse that weird "grade WWE on a curve" thing.
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Mar 10, 2020 02:22
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Tajiri is the best worker in the world because all wrestlers that use poison mist are tied for first
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Mar 10, 2020 02:43
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Neodoomium posted:Tajiri is the best worker in the world because all wrestlers that use poison mist are tied for first This is why Will Ospreay forced himself on BUSHI and stole the mist.
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Mar 10, 2020 02:49
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see the thing is HHH has done the pandering Cody "we're all fighting against the same machine" promos but those words coming out of HHH's mouth are all lies.
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Mar 10, 2020 04:03
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coconono posted:see the thing is HHH has done the pandering Cody "we're all fighting against the same machine" promos but those words coming out of HHH's mouth are all lies. Do you think HHH realizes that they are the machine?
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https://twitter.com/AnthonySkatz/status/1237186765028540416
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Davros1 posted:Do you think HHH realizes that they are the machine? And he revels in it.
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Mar 10, 2020 04:30
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I genuinely believe that HHH is the kind of narcissist who believes he made it on his own with no help from anyone, that he wrestles the best match on every card he's on, and that he's personally responsible for a bunch of talented wrestlers who have been great elsewhere being good in NXT. I have no real evidence of that, its just what I believe. So yeah, I think he thinks he means it when he says he's fighting the machine. I also think he revels in being the machine. Because that's the beauty of narcissism. You can be both and it doesn't have to make sense because its just about how cool you are.
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Mar 10, 2020 04:34
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woke up in the middle of the night to heap praise tajiri who might seriously have been the best in the world during death throws ECW. might have had a longer peak if the coward WWF had let him whip chairs into the crowd
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Mar 10, 2020 04:48
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I didn't like when jim ross would say Tie Jeery or raw kishi. i don't care about rikishi though
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Mar 10, 2020 04:50
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STAC Goat posted:I genuinely believe that HHH is the kind of narcissist who believes he made it on his own with no help from anyone, that he wrestles the best match on every card he's on, and that he's personally responsible for a bunch of talented wrestlers who have been great elsewhere being good in NXT. I have no real evidence of that, its just what I believe. HHH has basically said you can't make new stars by sacrificing current stars so he definitely thinks he was self made.
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Mar 10, 2020 04:57
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MassRafTer posted:HHH has basically said you can't make new stars by sacrificing current stars so he definitely thinks he was self made. Man owes Mick Foley a Christmas basket every fuckin' year FO FO FO FO life
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Mar 10, 2020 05:02
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Meanwhile The Rock and Chris Jericho spent their entire careers putting over new stars to their own sacrifice.
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Mar 10, 2020 05:05
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Lid posted:Meanwhile The Rock and Chris Jericho spent their entire careers putting over new stars to their own sacrifice. And on more than one occasion, they did so only to have HHH come in behind them and squash the poo poo out of that same guy!
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Mar 10, 2020 05:12
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HHH just never seemed to understand that you don't have to bury people to get over. Guys like Jericho, Foley, and the Rock get that if the other guy looks good you look good whether you're winning or losing. Guys like HHH and Hogan don't. They thing overness is a finite resource and if you let the other guy have some it will come from you. Its why I always thought it was funny that HHH created that narrative that he patterned his career off of Flair. Because one of Flair's favorite things to do was that face down comedy flop and I swear that man went to the top rope 1000 times and never once hit a move off the top.
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Mar 10, 2020 05:17
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Ric Flair made an entire career out of getting his rear end beat for 59 minutes and crawling out of town as champ on a technicality HHH has not
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If there's one thing I'll give him credit for HHH is amazing at selling himself, in and out of the ring, even when its bullshit. Its why I can't get over how people really see him as the NXT savior and daddy since to me it seems like such an obvious narrative he's been pushing for years.
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Mar 10, 2020 05:26
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The vibe I get from HHH is the same as the dude who's the cool youth pastor that no one really likes because he's knocked up several young women and paid for their abortions and the head pastor is all like he apologized and we're christains so we forgive him and everyone kinda grumblingly agrees(except for the folks that go to other churches and live far less terrible lives not being around that person).
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Mar 10, 2020 05:35
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The thing that HHH and WWE in general either don't get or seem to have forgotten is that heat is not a zero sum game. It can be generated rather than taken from somewhere else. Take Darby Allin and Sammy Guevara, for example. A year ago nobody had any idea who they were. Both of them have now had matches with bigger names, but it's not the matches with bigger names that has got them over, it's being given the space to be great. Their match at Revolution got a huge reaction not because of their associations with Jericho, Moxley, and Cody, but because of the crowd reacting to who they are, and AEW nurturing this reaction. Ironically, WWE currently has a number of people who could easily generate their own heat like this. They'd just need to be booked and promoted appropriately.
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MassRafTer posted:HHH has basically said you can't make new stars by sacrificing current stars so he definitely thinks he was self made.
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Mar 10, 2020 10:48
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Lamuella posted:The thing that HHH and WWE in general either don't get or seem to have forgotten is that heat is not a zero sum game. It can be generated rather than taken from somewhere else. WWE crowds only care about big names though, because they've been so trained that only the big names matter. This goes back all the way to the WCW days where guys getting tryout matches on shows would say WCW crowds would get really into the match if it was good but WWF crowds wouldn't care at all. It would take a hell of a long time (and patience no-one in WWE has) to change that.
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Mar 10, 2020 11:18
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Neodoomium posted:Ric Flair made an entire career out of getting his rear end beat for 59 minutes and crawling out of town as champ on a technicality Ric Flair's drawing power was definitely hurt when Dusty started booking him that way. It wasn't always the case.
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Mar 10, 2020 15:58
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AEW has been good at managing losses- it never feels like the loser is being dumped down the card. WWE just can’t get past that, though that may be because there is no longer any good faith that anyone will be booked well.
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jesus WEP posted:every time this gets brought up millions of mick foley’s nerve endings suddenly cry out in terror wasn't there a thing about Vince thinking nobody in Madison Square Garden would know who the hell Cactus Jack was HHH probably thinks his reaction got Cactus over. I know Mick gives him way too much credit on his role in their feuds but I wonder how much of that is being the nicest guy in the world and how much of that is being convinced of a narrative.
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