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ive heard it called a ‘payroll event’
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PCjr sidecar posted:of course you might not know they exist or how to find them two things: 1) you’re right, and everyone, right up to the c-level execs adjusted their expectations to this. 2) they had a really good hierarchical system internally for finding the person who does thing X.
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picturing some kind of in-office trivia game where it’s “who do you call when ...”
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there was a little bit of that too, since it’s all 6 degrees of Kevin bacon you could usually narrow down the department and person pretty quick just by asking.
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:there was a little bit of that too, since it’s all 6 degrees of Kevin bacon you could usually narrow down the department and person pretty quick just by asking. Small but not small. Medium but not large? Edit: This made sense in my head dealing with company growth issues, but doesn't now I am reading it.
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drunk mutt posted:Small but not small. Medium but not large? dsmp (don't sign my penis)
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SAVE-LISP-AND-DIE posted:This happened to me once at a 25 year old company. How? Just how? but the mainframe pays me automatically op
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Progressive JPEG posted:picturing some kind of in-office trivia game where it’s “who do you call when ...”
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EIDE Van Hagar posted:thats fair I paid a buttload of dollars for a masters to escape on call work after doing it for 3 years
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ShadowHawk posted:This depends heavily on how unhealthy your company's oncall practices (and oncall comp) are. I actually like going oncall during weekend shifts, since each weekend oncall day is an entire day's pay or vacation day here. And usually the pager is pretty quiet so I just sit around and play video games. holy poo poo I hate being on call and think it’s super stressful. I made career decisions, in part, to avoid it. but I would gladly do on call time in those conditions
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i still dont know how i feel about on call on one hand it is kinda a forcing function to make people pay more attention to the robustness of their systems, but on the other it is one of those things that is only as strong as the weakest engineer. i guess it is a double-edged sword
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On call is bad op, don't work outside work hours
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PokeJoe posted:On call is bad op, don't work outside work hours I try and hit the max oncall comp every quarter (2 weeks comp time) It's not for everyone though, some find it rather stressful. I've lost a few million dollars of company money via incorrect decisions while in command of an outage response. And saved much more than that through correct ones. It doesn't really bother me much either way.
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ShadowHawk posted:This depends heavily on how unhealthy your company's oncall practices (and oncall comp) are. I actually like going oncall during weekend shifts, since each weekend oncall day is an entire day's pay or vacation day here. And usually the pager is pretty quiet so I just sit around and play video games. what’s the SLA on that tier? I remember hearing 5 minutes territory I was oncall for a system that represented a significant fraction of the company’s revenue at the time, but it was only dev oncall and it typically wasn’t our system at fault when things stopped working. but it was still tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars per second territory when an outage did occur on the plus side I’m super desensitized to dealing with any kind of outage or issue these days since it’s typically peanuts in comparison to what I went through then
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ShadowHawk posted:This depends heavily on how unhealthy your company's oncall practices (and oncall comp) are. I actually like going oncall during weekend shifts, since each weekend oncall day is an entire day's pay or vacation day here. And usually the pager is pretty quiet so I just sit around and play video games. i worked at a semiconductor fab where oncall work was pretty unpredictable. i always had the pager and i might be put on call or not depending on how important a new chip was to the bottom line this month. if its a sane on call policy with planning and actual extra pay it might be fine.
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PokeJoe posted:On call is bad op, don't work outside work hours correction. don’t work outside of work hours for your normal 8-5 rate, or god forbid, for free
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i don't mind on-call  it's either a good incentive to build better product or a good reason to find a place that does
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Jim Silly-Balls posted:correction. don’t work outside of work hours for your normal 8-5 rate, or god forbid, for free Yeah this is what I mean. if they give you more money or vacation or otherwise make it worth your while, go for it. ive been forced on to enough unpaid on call schedules that they get a huge no from me
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Progressive JPEG posted:what’s the SLA on that tier? I remember hearing 5 minutes territory quote:I was oncall for a system that represented a significant fraction of the company’s revenue at the time, but it was only dev oncall and it typically wasn’t our system at fault when things stopped working. but it was still tens to hundreds of thousands of dollars per second territory when an outage did occur The ads must flow.
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ShadowHawk posted:Yup, 5 minute SLA. So you can't really go swimming or hiking or to a movie theater or whatever without coverage. or like, take a poo poo without bringing your laptop with you
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lmao if you don’t always do that anyway
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Arcsech posted:or like, take a poo poo without bringing your laptop with you
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Well it sounds like the other place I interviewed at is also going to give me an offer later today. I've never in my life had 2 open job offers before.
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Mar 9, 2020 17:48
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take the one with more money
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barkbell posted:take the one with more money this except factor in shorter commute
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Mar 9, 2020 18:04
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take the one with the more diverse executive team
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Take the one that promises to be your best friend
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i was going to have an in-person interview today. the recruiter hit me up last week and pried a ton trying to get me to give up a number. i was steadfast in that i wanted to have that conversation with the employer directly. this weekend he sent an email reminding me about today’s interview and that he volunteered a target salary for me. i told him he could cancel the interview because i wasn’t going to deal with that bullshit. gently caress around and find out
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PIZZA.BAT posted:i was going to have an in-person interview today. the recruiter hit me up last week and pried a ton trying to get me to give up a number. i was steadfast in that i wanted to have that conversation with the employer directly. this weekend he sent an email reminding me about today’s interview and that he volunteered a target salary for me. i told him he could cancel the interview because i wasn’t going to deal with that bullshit. 
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lol. Third party recruiters are worthless
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managed to get through an on-site interview with a company but now the recruiter wants to be a slimeball and not negotiate a straight offer and I don't feel like the economic outlook leaves me the option of walking away this is where i always seem to end up PokeJoe posted:lol. Third party recruiters are worthless
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"so you'll be providing a medical plan, as previously agreed?" "yeah uh, well, depends on what you mean by 'provide' and 'plan' and 'be', and uh, just hypothetically, supposing we weren't, then what?" this recruiter obviously went to some sales course where the theme was "never say no and get them to say yes" and took the lesson as literally as possible Gazpacho fucked around with this message at 02:47 on Mar 10, 2020 |
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Devonaut posted:take the one with the more diverse executive team take the one with the shorter executive team. confounds properly w nonwhite peeps and nonmale peeps. plus you know if the ceo is 5'2" that they actually know how to do something, probably selling, and that they didn't get chosen due to looking like a ceo ugly is also good bob dobbs is dead fucked around with this message at 02:41 on Mar 10, 2020 |
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also leprosy op
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theadder posted:also leprosy op seven weird dips in the river jordan pharisees don’t want you to know about
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so, give it to me straight. you wanna gently caress the board? No? I’m in!!
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took an offer 
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PIZZA.BAT posted:i was going to have an in-person interview today. the recruiter hit me up last week and pried a ton trying to get me to give up a number. i was steadfast in that i wanted to have that conversation with the employer directly. this weekend he sent an email reminding me about today’s interview and that he volunteered a target salary for me. i told him he could cancel the interview because i wasn’t going to deal with that bullshit. nice
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the only downside to this is the recruiter will blame you for flaking out
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qirex posted:the only downside to this is the recruiter will blame you for flaking out probably. seeing as i'm literally the only person in this city who knows the tech they need they still may be unhappy that he let me slip though. who knows. i don't care
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