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Erdogan will apparently receive an extra 0.5b as a result of europe's efforts to "appease Ankara", which is unfortunate.
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I know I posted semi-flippantly about the whole "service guarantees citizenship" deal with the French foreign legion, but when this is the alternative:Guardian posted:A group of soldiers who served in Iraq and Afghanistan are taking legal action against the Home Office and the Ministry of Defence over an alleged systemic failure to assist them with complex, unaffordable immigration rules on discharge, leaving them classified as illegal immigrants, facing unemployment and homelessness and fearing deportation. It might not be the worst thing ever.
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Personally I would favour deportation for the whole army rather than just some of it.
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OwlFancier posted:Personally I would favour deportation for the whole army rather than just some of it. Those are called "invasions" and tbh it's not what the world needs more of.
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You could send them all to the falklands.
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OwlFancier posted:You could send them all to the falklands.
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So Italy locked down/shut down the entire country because of coronavirus Seems bad imo
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Nissin Cup Nudist posted:So Italy locked down/shut down the entire country because of coronavirus probably the sort of response needed though, actually impressed that the italians of all people pulled it off
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No biggie, just a wee spell of martial law on the way to a mega recession. It's like they want Italy to come out with a junta in the space of a couple years.
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mortons stork posted:No biggie, just a wee spell of martial law on the way to a mega recession. It's like they want Italy to come out with a junta in the space of a couple years. As opposed to what exactly, having Spanish flu levels of infected people? Because that totally won't end with Mussolini's great-grandson as prime minister instead. V. Illych L. posted:probably the sort of response needed though, actually impressed that the italians of all people pulled it off Feel free to be less impressed, it's not actually a full lockdown. Schools, museums, bars, tourism, and things like that are closed. Industry, and public transport for people to go to work, are still open. As I said in the Corona thread, my family is safer (me, sister and brother-in-law are teachers, mom is retired) than most but this poo poo is going to suck.
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Omobono posted:As opposed to what exactly, having Spanish flu levels of infected people? Because that totally won't end with Mussolini's great-grandson as prime minister instead. E: Also, crucially, I don't think we can do this any other way. China can lock down Hubei and still have production going on elsewhere, propping it up. You can't lock down the entirety of Italy, quite literally. I'm actually fairly certain that it cannot function if you actually lockdown just the northern regions most affected, which are coincidentally Italy's most important industrial centers. So yeah, the measures are mostly façade and they have to be because the alternative is literally imploding a country and having to introduce wartime rationing. mortons stork fucked around with this message at 01:01 on Mar 10, 2020 |
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The Danish government has state-mandated handshakes for its citizenship ceremonies, so of course they postpone people's citizenship indefinitely rather than exempt them from potential infection during a pandemic.
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SplitSoul posted:The Danish government has state-mandated handshakes for its citizenship ceremonies, so of course they postpone people's citizenship indefinitely rather than exempt them from potential infection during a pandemic. I mean that's Denmark, the coutnry that's sort of secretly (because no one seems to be paying attention to it) worse than Poland and Hungary when it comes to the racism and just being terrible towards migrants and refugees, but it's all happening through the magic of democracy, no seizure of the state apparatus necessary.
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Randarkman posted:I mean that's Denmark, the coutnry that's sort of secretly (because no one seems to be paying attention to it) worse than Poland and Hungary when it comes to the racism and just being terrible towards migrants and refugees, but it's all happening through the magic of democracy, no seizure of the state apparatus necessary. Is it? For some reason I assume all scandinavian countries are more liberal than their central EU counterparts.
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mike12345 posted:Is it? For some reason I assume all scandinavian countries are more liberal than their central EU counterparts. in denmark, liberalism means the freedom to be a nazi
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Is Denmark still dumping all it's asylum seekers on an island camp?
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mike12345 posted:Is it? For some reason I assume all scandinavian countries are more liberal than their central EU counterparts. The ccountry that decided to house refugees from war torn countries near an army live fire practice area, just to be dicks? The country that dwcided that any refugee had to turn up any valuables they may hold, making it loving hard to get minimally established in a new place? yeah they are dicks.
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Orange Devil posted:Is Denmark still dumping all it's asylum seekers on an island camp? I'm not all that keyed up on it, but I think that plan fell through. I'm pretty sure the whole "Ghetto Package"* is still being pushed through, also IIRC parliament approved a measure earlier this year to revoke citizenship from the children of foreign fighters. *Which deals with the razing of and eviction from public housing in areas defined to be "ghettos" because of large populations of non-Westerners, as well as various other measures to make it easier to rescind child support and other welfare payment in these areas, and the ability of the police to enforce harsher sentences in these areas (also might be less restrictions on how they operate). Randarkman fucked around with this message at 11:48 on Mar 10, 2020 |
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yeah virus island got shelved with the change in government when the left plus liberals got a majority, but denmark is still incredibly racist
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V. Illych L. posted:yeah virus island got shelved with the change in government when the left plus liberals got a majority, but denmark is still incredibly racist In this case it should be noted that the Danish Social Democrats are incredibly racist.
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you have one concentration camp for asylum seekers and everyone starts calling you racist, smh
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Randarkman posted:In this case it should be noted that the Danish Social Democrats are incredibly racist. yeah if 80%+ of the country votes for ludicrously xenophobic parties campaigning on xenophobia i think that it's fair to call the country racist
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Orange Devil posted:Is Denmark still dumping all it's asylum seekers on an island camp? You mean the refurbished veterinary disease testing site only connected to land by a ferry named VIRUS? No, that plan was scrapped by the Social Democrats following pressure from supporting parties. They are, however, proposing to send surveillance planes to help the Greeks brutalise refugees. Dawncloack posted:The ccountry that decided to house refugees from war torn countries near an army live fire practice area, just to be dicks? Not just near, inside. The Social Democrats have graciously decided that families with children be moved to a different camp. Eventually. Rejected asylum seekers of adult age are still warehoused and committing suicide in a dilapidated prison—by design, the minister says it's not supposed to be nice, official policy is pressuring them to leave for their ravaged homelands as long as they're not personally persecuted, even if conventions exempt them from being forced onto a plane with police escort.
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I wonder what would happen if the same restrictions put in Italy were imposed on the states. I doubt it would fly.
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mike12345 posted:Is it? For some reason I assume all scandinavian countries are more liberal than their central EU counterparts.
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I CANNOT EJACULATE WITHOUT SEEING NATIVE AMERICANS BRUTALISED!
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SplitSoul posted:The Danish government has state-mandated handshakes for its citizenship ceremonies, so of course they postpone people's citizenship indefinitely rather than exempt them from potential infection during a pandemic. They don’t have gloves in Denmark?
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Cerv posted:They don’t have gloves in Denmark? Gloves don’t fit on their yellow claw-hands.
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Danish politics is based on being more xenophobic than sweden and being smug about it.
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Cerv posted:They don’t have gloves in Denmark? Probably not allowed. Shaking hands with the opposite sex, much like eating pork, is as refined kryptonite to the Muslim. Pandemic exemptions would simply encourage a massive influx in citizenship applications, maybe even deliberate infection with biological agents to circumvent measures against Muslimification of the Kingdom, such as the handshake, citizenship pledge and testing trivia about handball world championship results.
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V. Illych L. posted:probably the sort of response needed though, actually impressed that the italians of all people pulled it off Yeah, it's not a full lockdown (yet) but we're getting close. It's pretty surreal to see my country like this. I really hope other countries in the EU or elsewhere don't have to go through the same things we're going through. If we can't slow the spread of the virus we'll saturate the ICUs in most of northern Italy, which would then mean having to make horrible decisions like restricting access by age. We may not have enough ventilators for everyone in the near future.
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Cerv posted:They don’t have gloves in Denmark? The law specifically forbids the use of gloves: quote:§ 8. Når ansøgeren har underskrevet en blanket som nævnt i § 2, stk. 1, eller § 5, stk. 1, under overværelse af en repræsentant for kommunalbestyrelsen, skal en eller flere repræsentanter for kommunalbestyrelsen udveksle et håndtryk med ansøgeren uden handske håndflade mod håndflade for at højtideligholde og helt konkret markere det øjeblik i ansøgerens liv, hvor vedkommende bliver dansk statsborger. quote:§ 8. When the applicant has signed a form as mentioned in [...], one or more representatives of the municipal council shall exchange a handshake with the applicant without gloves palm against palm in order to [...] mark the moment in the applicant's life when they become a Danish citizen. (lovely grammar intentionally preserved)
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What happens if the to-be citizen doesn't have any hands? Doubt this has happened before but it isn't outside the realm of impossibility.
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Tau Wedel posted:The law specifically forbids the use of gloves: that’s amazing
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Kawabata posted:I really hope other countries in the EU or elsewhere don't have to go through the same things we're going through. It's just a question of time. genericnick posted:On the other hand this looks bad:
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Skull Servant posted:What happens if the to-be citizen doesn't have any hands? Doubt this has happened before but it isn't outside the realm of impossibility. What is the skincolour of this hypothetical non-citizen?
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Tau Wedel posted:The law specifically forbids the use of gloves: See. I wasn't actually sure, but I assumed it was the case. Manage your expectations. Skull Servant posted:What happens if the to-be citizen doesn't have any hands? Doubt this has happened before but it isn't outside the realm of impossibility. Applicant must consume an entire serving of pork meatballs as he or she is whipped with a medister o' nine. It's actually very fair because all hand amputees get treated the same.
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Kawabata posted:Yeah, it's not a full lockdown (yet) but we're getting close. It's pretty surreal to see my country like this. I'm sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but in Bergamo that already happened yesterday. In some parts of Italy, they're already giving up on severe CoVID-19 patients who are too old. I'd advise you to avoid needing the hospital as much as possible in the future.
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Well, president Trump of the land of the free announced that flights from Europe will be blocked for the next 30 days, with the exception of Great Britain and "legal residents". From what I've read, Trump didn't bother to coordinate this with European diplomats at all, leading some to speculate that this was motivated by an urge to get back at France and Germany for not playing "fair at trade".
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