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30-60% in Europe and similar numbers elsewhere according to Wikipedia, which is pretty apocalyptic but it lead to the end of serfdom in England and apparently had some positive environmental effects like reforestation, so maybe we'll end capitalism and solve climate change this time lol more likely we'll just get the persecution of minorities and recurring epidemics for centuries aspects
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XMNN posted:
goons do nothing original smh
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Mar 10, 2020 17:58
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https://twitter.com/latentexistence/status/1237382960938180608 The tories are getting very cavalier about the idea of their voting base dying on mass
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Mar 10, 2020 18:01
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XMNN posted:30-60% in Europe and similar numbers elsewhere according to Wikipedia, which is pretty apocalyptic Even more so then, 10 times fewer deaths is pretty significant difference, not to mention we're a lot better at coming up with vaccines and helping people survive. Not that it wouldn't suck.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:01
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/latentexistence/status/1237382960938180608 Literally the only people I know who read the telegraph are elderly dependents
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Mar 10, 2020 18:03
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I'm sure they'll all think of themselves as strong independent people and everyone else is the dependent.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:05
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XMNN posted:30-60% in Europe and similar numbers elsewhere according to Wikipedia, which is pretty apocalyptic It also (maybe) hosed our vowels, so I'm looking forward to whatever menglid nunsonse wi ull and up soonding lyke.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:09
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XMNN posted:yeah, even after the black death and the periodic outbreaks after that civilisation didn't disappear, it was just an incredibly lovely time to be alive even in comparison to general 14th century shittiness of being alive Wasn't 'kissing their arseholes' Chaucer's Millers Tale? I'm reading the 1000 nights and 1 night (Madrus / Mathers translation - apparently the Burton translation added some lurid stuff of its own) this year. (4 volumes of over 600 pages each) - you can find it online - 4 pdfs to download. I'm reading actual paper books. (Ed: vol 1 here, change the 1 to 2,3,4 to get the rest: http://islamicblessings.com/upload/A-Thousand-And-One-Nights-1.pdf) It's definitely NOT the version you read as a kid. It was written/collected in the year 800 so you have to bear that in mind (esp some of the racism). The translation is pretty good, reasonably modern. It does keep some Arabic words in which is ok for me as I know them, but might be a bit difficult if you don't know any arabic or can't guess from context. Jaeluni Asjil fucked around with this message at 18:21 on Mar 10, 2020 |
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Mar 10, 2020 18:13
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/latentexistence/status/1237382960938180608 Good way to speed up the rot in those boroughs, I guess.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:13
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ThomasPaine posted:The one that did this for me in a kind of meta way was Don Quixote, just because it was a properly funny book clearly written by someone very smart and witty who didn't at all take himself particularly seriously, but existed in a world completely alien to me. I loved that feeling of uncanny relatability. yeah, don Quixote was the other one for me, although I only got about halfway through because I was 18 and had an even shorter attention span so maybe that's something to do during the next few months I think one of the best uncannily relatable things I've read recently is A Cup of Sake Beneath the Cherry Trees, which is pretty short but full of things that could have been written today, but also has this quote which is so incredibly meta it almost hurts given it was written in the 13th century Kenkō posted:It is a most wonderful comfort to sit alone beneath a lamp, book spread before you, and commune with someone from the past whom you have never met. I'd really recommend the Tale of Heike translation by Royall Tyler, too, which is half people doing things you can relate to and half people doing things that are absolutely bizarre (e.g. warrior monks charging down from the mountain to attack the capital because the emperor wouldn't give them a certain type of shrine)
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Mar 10, 2020 18:14
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welp italy https://twitter.com/BNODesk/status/1237426680781774850
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Mar 10, 2020 18:16
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/latentexistence/status/1237382960938180608 That's some tin hearted, Malthusian, "decrease the surplus population" poo poo
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Mar 10, 2020 18:16
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minema posted:https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/10/food-banks-run-out-of-milk-and-other-staples-as-shoppers-panic-buy-coronavirus Sounds like a stupid thing to be buying anyway.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:19
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So much for that 3% death rate
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Mar 10, 2020 18:20
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Gonzo McFee posted:https://twitter.com/latentexistence/status/1237382960938180608 You're assuming the older Gen-Xers who inherit their parents houses won't go completely Tory before the ink's even dry on the death certificate.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:20
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sebzilla posted:So much for that 3% death rate That's reliant on their self reporting rates, which if they're not proactively testing everyone means there's a shitload of undetected cases. South Korea is the better marker as they are testing as many people as possible.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:22
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In theory, relaxing gun laws during a mental health crisis would also cull the "surplus population"
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Mar 10, 2020 18:25
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Azza Bamboo posted:In theory, relaxing gun laws during a mental health crisis would also cull the "surplus population" I mean *looks at the US*, uhh.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:26
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sebzilla posted:So much for that 3% death rate 3% is with everything still working. When everything gets overwhelmed, oh boy.
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Mar 10, 2020 18:29
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Graun entering the hot take race: https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1237404780840005634
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Mar 10, 2020 18:33
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XMNN posted:yeah, even after the black death and the periodic outbreaks after that civilisation didn't disappear, it was just an incredibly lovely time to be alive even in comparison to general 14th century shittiness of being alive Reminds me of Maeshowe's Runes - a set of Norse graffiti from around 1200, found inside of a Stone Age burial mound in the Orkneys which some vikings must have broken into. They said stuff like: "Thorni hosed. Helgi carved." "Ingigerth is the most beautiful of all women" (carved beside a rough drawing of a slavering dog) "This mound was raised before Ragnarr Lothbrocks her sons were brave smooth-hide men though they were" "Ofram the son of Sigurd carved these runes" "Haermund Hardaxe carved these runes" "These runes were carved by the man most skilled in runes in the western ocean" "Tholfir Kolbeinsson carved these runes high up" (found on the ceiling) You can see the parallels with today's graffiti, a lot of it is just like "Dave was here" and then talking poo poo about people etc. http://www.orkneyjar.com/history/maeshowe/maeshrunes.htm
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Mar 10, 2020 18:48
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Weep, you girls. My penis has given you up. Now it penetrates men's behinds. Goodbye, wondrous femininity!
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Mar 10, 2020 18:52
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official uk gov tracker https://twitter.com/DHSCgovuk/status/1237437814872121351 https://www.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/f94c3c90da5b4e9f9a0b19484dd4bb14
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Mar 10, 2020 19:00
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OwlFancier posted:I'm sure they'll all think of themselves as strong independent people and everyone else is the dependent. The Telegraph reader, in his mind, is Prince Charles; the elderly dependent, in his mind, is the Queen.
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Mar 10, 2020 19:01
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:I'm reading the 1000 nights and 1 night (Madrus / Mathers translation - apparently the Burton translation added some lurid stuff of its own) this year. (4 volumes of over 600 pages each) - you can find it online - 4 pdfs to download. I'm reading actual paper books. (Ed: vol 1 here, change the 1 to 2,3,4 to get the rest: http://islamicblessings.com/upload/A-Thousand-And-One-Nights-1.pdf) Huh. Kind of counter to what I've heard. Mardrus gets criticised for reworking chunks of the original to make them better fit the style of his time - "reshaping the Nights in such a manner that the stories appear at times to have been written by Oscar Wilde or Stéphane Mallarmé". Don't know if Mathers reversed these though. Burton is considered by some as the most complete existing English translation. He does like his erotic details (fluent in over 20 languages including pornography as someone once said  ) but I'd be a bit suspicious of a bowdlerising agenda behind claims that this is entirely his invention. His positivity towards homosexuality in the text being something that a lot of folks would rather keep covered up for one. Worth reading for his insane footnotes alone, Borges was a fan.
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Mar 10, 2020 19:08
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My daughter's maths teacher has been diagnosed. 
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Mar 10, 2020 19:31
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Collateral posted:My daughter's maths teacher has been diagnosed. Thankfully kids seem to get a pretty easy ride of it, some small comfort
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Mar 10, 2020 19:34
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ThomasPaine posted:Thankfully kids seem to get a pretty easy ride of it, some small comfort Well she went back to teaching (for a week or so) after coming back from Italy. The school is staying open, because nobody has told them otherwise.
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Mar 10, 2020 19:37
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Wasn't 'kissing their arseholes' Chaucer's Millers Tale? I've no idea how I conflated them given I've never read the Canterbury tales, and there are plenty of bits of them that he either borrowed from the decameron or at least had a common source for, so it's possible it is in there guess I'm going to have plenty of time to read the thing and find out soon!
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is it bad i kind of hope biden loses the election to trump because 4 more years of trump is preferable to whatever monster follows however the gently caress biden deals with the financial crash thats currently happening? he's polling 20% ahead of bernie in the primnary here and 4% behind trump in the general before he did this https://twitter.com/BoKnowsNews/status/1237387463246708736
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Mar 10, 2020 19:44
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EmptyVessel posted:Huh. Kind of counter to what I've heard. Mardrus gets criticised for reworking chunks of the original to make them better fit the style of his time - "reshaping the Nights in such a manner that the stories appear at times to have been written by Oscar Wilde or Stéphane Mallarmé". Don't know if Mathers reversed these though. Yes without reading the original and relying on translations, I'm not qualified really to say. Most of the discussions I've read favour the Mardrus / Mathers translations.
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Mar 10, 2020 19:47
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XMNN posted:yeah, don Quixote was the other one for me, although I only got about halfway through because I was 18 and had an even shorter attention span so maybe that's something to do during the next few months Talking of classic books that resonate today, that Telegraph quite about killing off the olds could have been lifted straight from Candide.
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Mar 10, 2020 19:50
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 https://washyourlyrics.com/ is making me giggle far too much for a middle-aged man
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Mar 10, 2020 20:00
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Yes without reading the original and relying on translations, I'm not qualified really to say. Most of the discussions I've read favour the Mardrus / Mathers translations. Lord, I'm not erudite enough to read the original versions. Mardrus/Mathers is a perfectly good collection of tales to amuse and astonish (which is the main thing after all). Mathers himself does describe it as "a simple and unannotated version of the complete work for the entertainment of the casual reader" (Note at start of Volume 1), which is fine by me. I'd just take claims that Burton added extraneous filth for his own reasons with a dash of salt and searching examination of the source. Much the same as the WI will neglect to mention social and sexual themes in Blake despite happily singing his words in Jerusalem, or Lady Guest skipping all the love-limb stuff in the Mabinogi.
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Guavanaut posted:Graun entering the hot take race: Aside from means testing for free school meals being hopelessly inefficient, expensive and putting a massive barrier in front of people who need help (as all means testing does) its amazing how anyone even remotely involved in education could fail to see that it would automatically stigmatise any kids who do actually qualify. What world do they live in where singling out some kids as needing benefits wouldnt be prime bully fuel?
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:official uk gov tracker look i come to this thread to have a good time after a hard day at work, I'm getting stressed out enough with thinking about this crap all day and then you come along and expose me to even more of it. is it too much to ask to have a little respite. i just want to have a few hours at the end of the evening where I can escape with my internet posting friends and not have to think about the foul unstoppable spread across the entire globe of arcgis software
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