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Biden/Duckworth Warm ham/Duckworth Burnt Toast/Duckworth I'm fine with any of those tbh.
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ded posted:Biden/Duckworth Isn't duckworth a Biden supporter? I'd rather have a progressive that actually stands for something I believe in than another lame centrist.
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Mar 11, 2020 04:37
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It’s gonna be Hillary.
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Mar 11, 2020 04:46
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at least bloomberg didn’t make it
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Mar 11, 2020 04:47
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Woofer posted:It’s gonna be Hillary. gently caress it, let's burn this mother down.
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Mar 11, 2020 04:54
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Really looking foward to the Republicans doing a bengazi style investigation into the biden campaign about hunter and ukraine lmao
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Mar 11, 2020 04:56
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Like the one that got Trump impeached? Man, Mississippi is a bloodbath. Homie doesn't look like he's even gonna hit viability. Looks like Washington is a wash too.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:07
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How could the voters fail Bernie like this? How could they do this?!?!?!?! /cspam It's really early to say this, but if Biden wins in November it's pretty much proof that Hillary was The Worst Thing Ever.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:14
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:It's really early to say this, but if Biden wins in November it's pretty much proof that Hillary was The Worst Thing Ever. The US has also now has 4 years of experience with President Trump, he's no longer got the mystique factor of a Washington outsider businessman.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:21
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Both can be true.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:22
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Olds are dumbasses who don't want necessary changes. Youngs are dumbasses who don't want to show up to vote.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:23
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Mr. Nice! posted:Democrats will not take the Senate with Biden as the face of the ticket. No way enough people are going to turn out to vote for him to actually flip the senate. Trump's voters will show up. So - your argument from the previous page is that a candidate other then Biden would get people to the polls to vote in down candidate races. These will not be enough to beat Trump voters in key races. Where the gently caress are these Dem voters in the primaries? Let's take a look at MI 2016 Sanders 598943 49.68% Clinton 581775 48.26% 1,180,718 2020 3-11@1204 EDT Sanders 526,946 37.8% Biden 735,019 52.8% 1,261,965 Trump won MI by 10,000 votes. I'm not saying Biden is my ideal candidate, but as far as I can see he's beating the gently caress out of Bernie.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:24
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What is up with people not voting? Mandatory voting would be nice, but people doing their basic loving civic duty would be nicer.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:33
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i will not be voting for Joseph R. "Joe" Biden. Namaste.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:35
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:i will not be voting for Joseph R. "Joe" Biden. Namaste. Cheeto Benito thanks you for your support.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:35
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mlmp08 posted:That is a ridiculous mischaracterization of what I posted. Hardly. I should've deleted the last part, because I agree the GOP is vastly better at knowing their audience. mlmp08 posted:The logical extension of this is one of two things: absolutely always lie to single issue voters and then do what you want later (wise) This is not a logical anything, and I'm not strawmanning. It's a throw up your hands and scream at clouds post. Do I really need to dig into this and pick it apart? Are you honestly saying this is your actual opinion when we're talking about Joe Biden shoving his finger in a union worker's face on camera and talking about seizing loving guns? Edit: mlmp08 posted:Real talk: How does one "pick their battle" with anti-choice voters to win their votes? Cause I'm pretty sure if they really are single issue, the only way to pick your battle is to say "gently caress em, don't need em," or it's to acquiesce, or it's to just lie to them and then ignore them after the fact. If it's some mushy-mouthed stuff about appealing to them otherwise, then they are by definition not single-issue voters and instead multi-issue voters who happen to be pro-life. You don't make that issue a major talking point. Save it for reelection. You need to pull out all the stops on this one because the alternative is Donald Trump as a second term president and continued GOP control of the Senate and PROBABLY a supermajority on the Supreme Court. Every day I'm waiting for Joe to have his "deplorables" or "put all the coal miners out of work" moment, and this might be one of them. Godholio fucked around with this message at 05:47 on Mar 11, 2020 |
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Mar 11, 2020 05:44
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The old might all be dead by december as the infected number in the US for COVID 19 is now over 1000.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:46
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Cheeto Benito thanks you for your support. The counterpoint to this is not all votes are created equal. For those of us not in swing states, our votes are relatively meaningless. I’ve only lived in solid Democratic states that are very, very unlikely to vote anything but blue my entire voting life, so my individual vote has had less impact than a single vote in PA, MI, or WI. my primaries have always occurred when the nomination has all but been locked up, so my ability to influence the Democratic Party is minimal, whereas some Iowa caucus-goer is regarded as some sort of sacred cow to be captured. If you live in some deep blue or red stronghold and you’re apathetic about the nominee, gently caress if, leave president blank and focus intently on everything down ballot.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:47
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Cheeto Benito thanks you for your support. I can't wait for four more years of people thinking that calling Trump a silly name is a massive own.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:49
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AreWeDrunkYet posted:What is up with people not voting? Mandatory voting would be nice, but people doing their basic loving civic duty would be nicer. Have to take time off work, a lot of people can't afford to do that or don't have the option, the GOP has shut down voting locations, voter ID requirements are mostly racist bullshit to suppress minority voters, districts all over the place are jerrymandered to gently caress so there's a prevailing feeling that the vote won't matter, the lack of accurate representation also leads to that feeling, etc.
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Mar 11, 2020 05:52
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I'm just going to follow the example of my number two choice, Elizabeth Warren, and say that I don't owe anybody my vote.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:01
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pantslesswithwolves posted:The counterpoint to this is not all votes are created equal. For those of us not in swing states, our votes are relatively meaningless. I’ve only lived in solid Democratic states that are very, very unlikely to vote anything but blue my entire voting life, so my individual vote has had less impact than a single vote in PA, MI, or WI. my primaries have always occurred when the nomination has all but been locked up, so my ability to influence the Democratic Party is minimal, whereas some Iowa caucus-goer is regarded as some sort of sacred cow to be captured. Of course, part of the problem is sometimes your vote suddenly matters a lot more than you thought it did. If you told me exactly four years ago that Michigan would be a swing state, for instance, I would have laughed in your face and called you a stupid motherfucker. 
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Mar 11, 2020 06:23
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Johnny Five-Jaces posted:i will not be voting for Joseph R. "Joe" Biden. Namaste. If you're in a deep blue state, sure vote for Harambe or someone. But don't skip on the down ballot
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Mar 11, 2020 06:24
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also I disagree with not voting for biden if he's the nominee, and that attitude disappoints me, but if you skip out on voting at all and don't vote for downballots I'm personally coming to kick your rear end
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Mar 11, 2020 06:24
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:Cheeto Benito thanks you for your support. Don't be more stupid
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Proud Christian Mom posted:Don't be more stupid Not even on my stupidest days I could ever hope to match you. Vincent Van Goatse fucked around with this message at 06:54 on Mar 11, 2020 |
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Mar 11, 2020 06:42
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I live in Florida so Biden can suck my dick from the back, but I’ll be voting blue in the down ballots.
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Mar 11, 2020 06:56
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Ragaman posted:I live in Florida so Biden can suck my dick from the back, but I’ll be voting blue in the down ballots. please vote biden because the polling shows him and trump are basically neck and neck, and if Biden somehow wins Florida then we don't even need to worry about stupid loving worthless wisconsin. those idiots. those motherfuckers. goddamn packers fans.
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Mar 11, 2020 07:15
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there should be another civil war but it's everyone versus wisconsin so we can all come together as a country and kick their rear end e: ohio you're next
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Acebuckeye13 posted:there should be another civil war but it's everyone versus wisconsin so we can all come together as a country and kick their rear end Can we throw in Kansas? gently caress Kansas. Just gently caress Kansas.
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Mar 11, 2020 07:19
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Ragaman posted:I live in Florida so Biden can suck my dick from the back, but I’ll be voting blue in the down ballots. I get what you're going for but you should still vote for Biden because asking Ruth Bader Ginsburg to stay alive and on the Supreme Count for another five years is... not a great plan.
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Mar 11, 2020 07:20
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To quote my mom who is a lifelong dem from a family of dems and a boomer 'i don't know about that socialism'.
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Vincent Van Goatse posted:I get what you're going for but you should still vote for Biden because asking Ruth Bader Ginsburg to stay alive and on the Supreme Count for another five years is... not a great plan. a) There's no guarantee that he wouldn't replace her with a conservative judge. Not saying he definitely will, but there's a lot of ambiguity with Biden being the "we can still work with the right" candidate. b) Even if he replaced her with the ghost of Karl Marx, the court would still be majority conservative. We need to pack the court to unfuck it, and lol if you think Biden would ever do that.
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Oh yeah and don't forget that talking about SC replacements is completely pointless as long as the GOP controls the Senate.
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bulletsponge13 posted:Can we throw in Kansas? gently caress Kansas. Just gently caress Kansas. personally I have no real feelings towards Kansas on way or another other than that there's too much of it. also the cosmosphere really cool but did they really have to put it in the absolute middle of loving nowhere
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Fister Roboto posted:a) There's no guarantee that he wouldn't replace her with a conservative judge. Not saying he definitely will, but there's a lot of ambiguity with Biden being the "we can still work with the right" candidate. The alternative is another Trump/McConnell pick.
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Fister Roboto posted:a) There's no guarantee that he wouldn't replace her with a conservative judge. Not saying he definitely will, but there's a lot of ambiguity with Biden being the "we can still work with the right" candidate. So you're saying better things aren't possible?
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Are you loving kidding me? Biden has literally said that nothing will fundamentally change. He IS the "better things aren't possible" candidate. Throwing that in my face for expressing doubt about voting for him is some disingenuous bullshit.
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Mar 11, 2020 07:58
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Acebuckeye13 posted:personally I have no real feelings towards Kansas on way or another other than that there's too much of it. Idk, I really like Carry on My Wayward Son.
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Acebuckeye13 posted:please vote biden because the polling shows him and trump are basically neck and neck, and if Biden somehow wins Florida then we don't even need to worry about stupid loving worthless wisconsin. those idiots. those motherfuckers. goddamn packers fans. Vincent Van Goatse posted:I get what you're going for but you should still vote for Biden because asking Ruth Bader Ginsburg to stay alive and on the Supreme Count for another five years is... not a great plan. Florida has only gone blue 4 times in like the last 50 years, and *2*of those were for Obama so don’t let the polls fool you. One thing I’ve learned about my State is that it almost always never manages to live up the low expectations I have for it someway, some how. I’ll make sure that my parents vote for Biden... The Supreme Court seats are the one and only reason that I personally would pull the lever for him but quite frankly I need him to show me that at least he is interested in implementing *even just one* progressive policy to try and lure in and appeal to the progressive wing/younger voters... If this doesn’t happen, welp - if young voters don’t turn out in high enough numbers for Bernie, do you think they are gonna go out and phone bank and canvas and vote for “Sleepy” Joe Biden who basically told an entire voting block to suck it up and gently caress off with our problems? I’m 39 and about to retire from the Air Force, I don’t NEED any of the things Bernie talks about, but I want it for those families that go without, for my parents and for my children. I also feel like this is strait out of a page of MLKs Birmingham jail letter in that a “negative peace” that Biden would bring about (in regards/contrast to Bernie’s progressive positions) is almost as bad as the outright hatred that Trump espouses. Biden (and the DNC by proxy) is the literal white Moderate who “paternalistically feels he can set the timetable for another man's freedom; who lives by the myth of time and who constantly advises the Negro to wait until a "more convenient season." However in this context the “freedom” in this case would be swapped out for universal healthcare, addressing climate change & progressive taxes to try to reverse the massive income inequality that is only getting worse.
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