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so like, the only people to blame are young people. olds are just stupid and evil, they can't help it
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol i don't think they have a plan if it is, and they don't really care all that much anyway
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Wrote this in the primary thread, but would like to ask here as well: At this point I think it is easy go completely  however I don't really think things look as bad as that currently and I would urge anyone to utilize this as a radicalizing moment against the DNC.We all know Biden has dementia, we all know he cannot win against Trump and we all know the DNC isn't playing this to win against Trump, but to win against Bernie. Meanwhile the democratic primary voter electorate are consistently stating in polling that their number one priority is ousting Trump. That is why they are voting on electability over substance. They are scared shitless, and therefore vote for the candidate they have been told can beat Trump. That means they are propping up a candidate that is in direct contrast to their singular stated goal. So I think this is the time to talk to family and friends that have voted Biden, harping on why exactly the DNC and MSM would try to push a candidate through suffering from dementia. They have access to him and must know. Now you friends/family will state that this is overblown and he isn't actually demented  . They are however wrong and it will become clear in the next week/month, that is why they are trying to get Bernie to drop out and talk about how the debate isn't necessary - all cover for backing a candidate that cannot win.When the Biden house of cards come tumbling down, it is important to have made clear in advance that the DNC and MSM never played to win. They detest the voters (particularly the ones voting for Biden) and don't give a poo poo whether Trump wins, as long as Bernie doesn't. If this can be communicated in advance, I think it will radicalize a lot of Biden voters against the DNC and MSM. Anybody agree/disagree with this?
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Mar 11, 2020 13:00
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Office Pig posted:i don't think they have a plan if it is, and they don't really care all that much anyway Yeah I don't think they really do either. The plan was to stop Bernie and so far it's successful. The people whose careers are in the DNC don't care if Trump wins. They'll still get paid to work on campaigns, donations will still come in, etc. Bernie was the threat to that, not Trump.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:01
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Gobblecoque posted:Well he's gonna have to choose whether to either alienate the establishment and the olds or every person who ever supported him. And guess what, the former group already hates him almost, perhaps even just as much, as they did Nader. Bernie running third party to make the Democrats lose until they compromise with the left doesn’t work as a strategy because it assumes the Democrats, institutionally, want to win. Being a permanent minority party that can blame the left for their losses is their dream scenario, which is why Bernie running third party is a waste of his time.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:04
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Lightning Knight posted:Bernie running third party to make the Democrats lose until they compromise with the left doesn’t work as a strategy because it assumes the Democrats, institutionally, want to win. Being a permanent minority party that can blame the left for their losses is their dream scenario, which is why Bernie running third party is a waste of his time.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:06
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Lightning Knight posted:Bernie running third party to make the Democrats lose until they compromise with the left doesn’t work as a strategy because it assumes the Democrats, institutionally, want to win. Being a permanent minority party that can blame the left for their losses is their dream scenario, which is why Bernie running third party is a waste of his time. I have to agree. The dems don't want to govern.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:06
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at the end of bernie's dropping out announcement a ufo will appear and he will ascend into the sky, loudly declaring that humanity has proven itself not yet ready for the miracles of fully automated luxury gay space communism
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Mar 11, 2020 13:08
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https://twitter.com/_floodlight/status/1237702407297081345?s=21 lmao walking down the street and seeing little kids knowing they will grow up to inherit a doomed an soon uninhabitable earth is such a good feeling
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Mar 11, 2020 13:08
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genericnick posted:I have to agree. The dems don't want to govern. 
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Mar 11, 2020 13:09
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Dolphin posted:at a certain point the bottom is going to fall out from the conservative vote and there is going to need to be some sort of replacement for either the Democrats or the Republicans. the boomers aren't going to be here in 20-30 years. I think with the rate climate change is accelerating, 20-30 years from now electoral politics will be long irrelevant.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:09
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Taintrunner posted:https://twitter.com/_floodlight/status/1237702407297081345?s=21 it's not too late, sarah connor. bernie sanders will be the next president of the united states of america.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:11
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Brother Entropy posted:at the end of bernie's dropping out announcement a ufo will appear and he will ascend into the sky, loudly declaring that humanity has proven itself not yet ready for the miracles of fully automated luxury gay space communism i remember this south park episode
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still a lot of primary left, they can't win without Bernie's base, it's Bernie or bust
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Mar 11, 2020 13:13
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SpiderHyphenMan posted:i remember this south park episode my condolences, no one should have to deal with remembering south park
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Mar 11, 2020 13:14
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Raskolnikov38 posted:lmao the Dems nominated the last of the Dixiecrats against trump https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/796229362643152896?lang=en
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Mar 11, 2020 13:16
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Brother Entropy posted:my condolences, no one should have to deal with remembering south park "Not remembering? I haven't even been to the south park!" #Biden2020 #SundownOnHumanity
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Mar 11, 2020 13:17
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My goal is to let all the young people I know that if the dem nominee is Biden and he doesn't make concessions to the left on healthcare, debt, or the green new deal then there is no point in voting for him. And the dems will blame the youth/left if Biden loses so you might as well prove them right.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:21
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spacemang_spliff posted:lol yes, they do step 1: get that donor money
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temple posted:My goal is to let all the young people I know that if the dem nominee is Biden and he doesn't make concessions to the left on healthcare, debt, or the green new deal then there is no point in voting for him. And the dems will blame the youth/left if Biden loses so you might as well prove them right.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BN9yJaMxeJg bernie or bust motherfuckers
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Mar 11, 2020 13:23
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Dolphin posted:at a certain point the bottom is going to fall out from the conservative vote and there is going to need to be some sort of replacement for either the Democrats or the Republicans. the boomers aren't going to be here in 20-30 years. i think the plan is that nobody is going to be here in 20-30 years
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Mar 11, 2020 13:23
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Pingui posted:Wrote this in the primary thread, but would like to ask here as well: Yes, but honestly, I am hoping for a Trump victory. Right now the dominant narrative is something unfair happened and took it from Hillary despite all evidence to the contrary When Biden loses, they cannot hide it anymore, their politics are dog poo poo and they are only here to stop the left. That will be the radical moment. See you at 'Le Retour' friends.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:23
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Dolphin posted:so like, the only people to blame are young people. olds are just stupid and evil, they can't help it No no, the olds will just blame the youngs for not voting when their hero fails to bead Trump.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:23
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when people say it's my fault Biden lost I'll just say good.
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Mr Hootington posted:Some policies you will see pushed more: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HhVeEgpOZcQ This movie was pretty lovely the first time around.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:25
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:Yes, but honestly, I am hoping for a Trump victory. Right now the dominant narrative is something unfair happened and took it from Hillary despite all evidence to the contrary
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Mar 11, 2020 13:25
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Lmao they are gonna go full strasserite instead.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:26
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spacemang_spliff posted:Do democrats have a plan for when the economy isn't in recession and coronavirus hasn't wiped out all old people by November? at this rate the coronavirus could wipe out all the old people and biden will still lose because there will be more disgusted young people than dead old people
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Mar 11, 2020 13:27
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I don't know how to settle myself with the idea of not voting for Biden. I don't want to vote for Biden. I am talking myself into maybe having to vote for him if he gets the nomination, and not yet succeeding. And sure, I don't live in a swing state. Or at least one that will be pivotal - if this state swings we're looking at Mondale levels of humiliation. He's going to be absolute dogshit if he wins. But I can't bring myself to not vote for the only party's candidate that has a shot at doing literal anything by actually getting elected. I feel like an accelerationist when I think "well, there's only one person running I'd ever vote for, so I should write him in" How have you all made your peace with that? I know this is a personal question so it's different for everyone. But I figure someone here has had the same issue. And I would like some help.
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Lawman 0 posted:Lmao they are gonna go full strasserite instead. the republicans might the Democrats have gone full corporate feudalism. we’re all serfs now bay-bay
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I don't know how to settle myself with the idea of not voting for Biden. I don't want to vote for Biden. I am talking myself into maybe having to vote for him if he gets the nomination, and not yet succeeding. And sure, I don't live in a swing state. Or at least one that will be pivotal - if this state swings we're looking at Mondale levels of humiliation. He's going to be absolute dogshit if he wins. But I can't bring myself to not vote for the only party's candidate that has a shot at doing literal anything by actually getting elected. I feel like an accelerationist when I think "well, there's only one person running I'd ever vote for, so I should write him in" Try spite.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I don't know how to settle myself with the idea of not voting for Biden. I don't want to vote for Biden. I am talking myself into maybe having to vote for him if he gets the nomination, and not yet succeeding. And sure, I don't live in a swing state. Or at least one that will be pivotal - if this state swings we're looking at Mondale levels of humiliation. He's going to be absolute dogshit if he wins. But I can't bring myself to not vote for the only party's candidate that has a shot at doing literal anything by actually getting elected. I feel like an accelerationist when I think "well, there's only one person running I'd ever vote for, so I should write him in" Trump is a disgusting piece of garbage who has probably raped children and should be in prison. He has still done less damage to the country than Joe Biden.
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I don't know how to settle myself with the idea of not voting for Biden. I don't want to vote for Biden. I am talking myself into maybe having to vote for him if he gets the nomination, and not yet succeeding. And sure, I don't live in a swing state. Or at least one that will be pivotal - if this state swings we're looking at Mondale levels of humiliation. He's going to be absolute dogshit if he wins. But I can't bring myself to not vote for the only party's candidate that has a shot at doing literal anything by actually getting elected. I feel like an accelerationist when I think "well, there's only one person running I'd ever vote for, so I should write him in" its actually very simple just remember that biden is lying when he's pretending to be less bad than trump
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Lawman 0 posted:Lmao they are gonna go full strasserite instead. The republicans are the ones likely to go Strasserite. Dems are to stupid to see it coming but Trump will definitely go left of Biden on things.
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Mar 11, 2020 13:32
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https://twitter.com/atticus59914029/status/1237677234648952835?s=21 losing my loving mind here
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Mar 11, 2020 13:33
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Ron Paul Atreides posted:Yes, but honestly, I am hoping for a Trump victory. Right now the dominant narrative is something unfair happened and took it from Hillary despite all evidence to the contrary That is exactly why I think the foundation needs to be layed now. There is a big difference between working against a narrative "nobody could have known Biden was actually demented, he was doing fine!" and rubbing it in their faces now, and calling out the DNC and MSM for backing an unelectable candidate. Because it will become apparent that Biden cannot win fairly soon, probably the next couple of weeks, November at the latest. At that point people will be scared, and if we direct that fear into anger at the DNC and MSM, it will make it a lot harder for them to just nominate Hillary/Klob/Butt at the convention due to "health concerns".
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genericnick posted:Try spite. RottenK posted:its actually very simple just remember that biden is lying when he's pretending to be less bad than trump
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Mar 11, 2020 13:34
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Lawman 0 posted:Lmao they are gonna go full strasserite instead. No they aren't, that's Republicans
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DACK FAYDEN posted:I don't know how to settle myself with the idea of not voting for Biden. I don't want to vote for Biden. I am talking myself into maybe having to vote for him if he gets the nomination, and not yet succeeding. And sure, I don't live in a swing state. Or at least one that will be pivotal - if this state swings we're looking at Mondale levels of humiliation. He's going to be absolute dogshit if he wins. But I can't bring myself to not vote for the only party's candidate that has a shot at doing literal anything by actually getting elected. I feel like an accelerationist when I think "well, there's only one person running I'd ever vote for, so I should write him in" Read some chris hedges books like death of the liberal class and america the farewell tour Then dehumanize yourself and face to bloodshed The crises we face cannot be faced down by either party because both are expressions of corporate fascism Bernie posed a threat to that in a very small way and you saw how massive the corporate resistance to his modest reform package has been Read some Sheldon Woolin as well if you want more concrete examples of these phenomena Also read the kingdom of god is within you by Tolstoy I would have killed myself in my 20s if i didn't become a Christian anarchist True story
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