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Gucci Loafers: May 20, 2006; Ask yourself, do you really want to talk to pair of really nice gaudy shoes?

MightyBigMinus posted:

bernie just lost. there will be no green new deal.

i've held out for yeaaaars. since paris.

i'm done. we're doomed.

How the gently caress he lost Michigan is beyond me.

# ? Mar 11, 2020 07:51

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# ? Jun 7, 2024 10:44

Big Hubris: Mar 8, 2011

Electric Six knew.

# ? Mar 11, 2020 08:33

uguu: Mar 9, 2014

DynamicSloth posted:

C'mon guys a global recession is a reason to celebrate, there is no greater abettor of anthropogenic climate change then number. Sure the Coronavirus is not enough, on its own, to hobble the engine of our destruction, the world economy, but with any luck it will, with a little help from an impromptu oil war, pop a few of the bubbles this end of the world party has been floating on the last few decades.

No politician, even a well meaning socialist, could achieve this.

Why would there be An oil war when prices are rockbottom?

# ? Mar 11, 2020 11:44

Car Hater: May 7, 2007; wolf. bike.
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Tab8715 posted:

How the gently caress he lost Michigan is beyond me.

He got in striking distance and it terrified the olds and they turned the gently caress out. I will be running in 2024 against Ivanka, my campaign platform will be 'Everyone over 40 goes into the recycling tanks, sorry no exceptions'

# ? Mar 11, 2020 11:49

DynamicSloth: Jul 30, 2006; "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person. Give him a mask, and he will tell you the truth."

uguu posted:

Why would there be An oil war when prices are rockbottom?

An oil price war (i.e. the reason prices are at rock bottom).

# ? Mar 11, 2020 12:50

Potato Salad: Oct 23, 2014; nobody cares

Tab8715 posted:

How the gently caress he lost Michigan is beyond me.

Geriatric revolution.

# ? Mar 11, 2020 12:51

Syenite: Jun 21, 2011; Grimey Drawer

World is doomed.

# ? Mar 11, 2020 14:48

Oracle: Oct 9, 2004

Syenite posted:

World is doomed.

World was doomed the day Al Gore conceded friend, sorry.

# ? Mar 11, 2020 17:33

How are u: May 19, 2005; by Azathoth

MightyBigMinus posted:

bernie just lost. there will be no green new deal.

i've held out for yeaaaars. since paris.

i'm done. we're doomed.

We were doomed even if Bernie won. I saw how fervently some Bernie folks believed that he was the only man who could literally save the world, but it was always a fiction.

Now you understand, welcome.

# ? Mar 11, 2020 17:49

VideoGameVet: May 14, 2005; It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Car Hater posted:

He got in striking distance and it terrified the olds and they turned the gently caress out. I will be running in 2024 against Ivanka, my campaign platform will be 'Everyone over 40 goes into the recycling tanks, sorry no exceptions'

Carousal!

# ? Mar 11, 2020 18:05

Hexigrammus: May 22, 2006; Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

Car Hater posted:

He got in striking distance and it terrified the olds and they turned the gently caress out. I will be running in 2024 against Ivanka, my campaign platform will be 'Everyone over 40 goes into the recycling tanks, sorry no exceptions'

The Boomers will understand "Never trust anyone over 30 40 50 60 70..."

VideoGameVet posted:

Carousal!

Dunno if my knees are up for it.

# ? Mar 11, 2020 18:33

VideoGameVet: May 14, 2005; It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Hexigrammus posted:

Dunno if my knees are up for it.

See: "Logan's Run"

# ? Mar 11, 2020 18:49

Hexigrammus: May 22, 2006; Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

VideoGameVet posted:

See: "Logan's Run"

Running's definitely out. The Carousel would work as long as I could be flung into the air from a sitting position.

# ? Mar 12, 2020 00:57

VideoGameVet: May 14, 2005; It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Hexigrammus posted:

Running's definitely out. The Carousel would work as long as I could be flung into the air from a sitting position.

No appreciation for the classics with today�s generation :-)

# ? Mar 12, 2020 01:01

Admiral Ray: May 17, 2014; Proud Musk and Dogecoin fanboy

Wait people don't know what Logan's Run is?

wtf

How do you think we know to use domes to survive?

# ? Mar 12, 2020 01:05

Hexigrammus: May 22, 2006; Cheech Wizard stories are clean, wholesome, reflective truths that go great with the marijuana munchies and a blow job.

Rime posted:

Doomsday Economics thread in CSPAM seems to be the hot place to be so imma take my ball over there on this topic, rather than waste effort on making a new thread.

Hopefully it doesn't get lost in all the :gizz:

surrounding the current collapse of Number.

I can't keep up with that thread but it is interesting to see all the ways consumerism is getting kicked in the nuts. We should have some great data points in a few months.

# ? Mar 12, 2020 01:06

Rime: Nov 2, 2011; by Games Forum

Trans-Atlantic air travel effectively halting for a month is gonna be...a thing.

# ? Mar 12, 2020 03:51

Bar Ran Dun: Jan 22, 2006

Admiral Ray posted:

How do you think we know to use domes to survive?

Fish, seaweed, proteins from the sea!

Uh might have a problem with the Domes plan

# ? Mar 12, 2020 03:56

Bar Ran Dun: Jan 22, 2006

Rime posted:

Trans-Atlantic air travel effectively halting for a month is gonna be...a thing.

If the way the global economy works now, is not the way it is going to work in the future...That means the fight for how it will work in the future is about to occur, and that things that seem impossible might not be shortly.

But that doesn�t necessarily mean good things, it might mean we kill people at borders. It might mean the public decides eliminating emissions matters.

# ? Mar 12, 2020 04:05

Freakazoid_: Jul 5, 2013; Buglord

Admiral Ray posted:

Wait people don't know what Logan's Run is?

wtf

How do you think we know to use domes to survive?

well obviously from Bio-Dome.

# ? Mar 12, 2020 05:14

Rime: Nov 2, 2011; by Games Forum

Rime posted:

I think Coronavirus and the increasing supply chain paralysis it's causing are going to be the major black swan event we've been waiting for RE: the global economy, and its going to cause China to collapse internally in the very near future. Like, within a year. This kicks off a lot of dominoes geopolitically and has already begun to wildly alter the trajectory of events globally from just happily chugging along business as usual until capitalism grinds to a halt and everyone starves to death when agriculture fails.

The foundation of global capitalism, the free movement of people and goods for JIT supply chains, is currently getting its skull curbstomped in half. We are experiencing the milliseconds after decapitation when the body hasn't realized it is dead yet. Whatever plans you had for the next five years, chuck them, the century of stability is over. As a result the can is going to get kicked an extra decade, probably into the 2050's before the wheels really fall off of what we'd consider basic civilization.

Of course I could be entirely wrong in my interpretation of current events, in which case quote this next year and laugh at me. I do analysis, not doom prophesies.

gently caress me was this really a week ago? :stonklol:

# ? Mar 12, 2020 23:15

Oxxidation: Jul 22, 2007

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# ? Mar 12, 2020 23:28

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
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Rime posted:

I think Coronavirus and the increasing supply chain paralysis it's causing are going to be the major black swan event we've been waiting for RE: the global economy, and its going to cause China to collapse internally in the very near future. Like, within a year. This kicks off a lot of dominoes geopolitically and has already begun to wildly alter the trajectory of events globally from just happily chugging along business as usual until capitalism grinds to a halt and everyone starves to death when agriculture fails.

The foundation of global capitalism, the free movement of people and goods for JIT supply chains, is currently getting its skull curbstomped in half. We are experiencing the milliseconds after decapitation when the body hasn't realized it is dead yet. Whatever plans you had for the next five years, chuck them, the century of stability is over. As a result the can is going to get kicked an extra decade, probably into the 2050's before the wheels really fall off of what we'd consider basic civilization.

Of course I could be entirely wrong in my interpretation of current events, in which case quote this next year and laugh at me. I do analysis, not doom prophesies.

Rime posted:

If micro lofts like those hipster conversions down in Gastown were a lot more common, and renting for $300-$500 a month, I'd happily snap one up. Hell, I'd jump to buy one if they were less than $70k and I'm sure there's plenty of 20-something freespirited bachelors/ettes who feel the same.

Indebting myself for life on the other hand, or continuing to support some rentier-class boomer/chinese parasites? Nah, fuuuuuck that.

Leaving my choices: A. Convert a van that I can bring with me as I move for work. B. Cycle through lovely short-term roommate flop houses whenever I'm back in the country between contracts.

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# ? Mar 13, 2020 02:59

MightyBigMinus: Jan 26, 2020

edit: nvm, never try to disabuse a concern troll of their lovely argument, they don't care so it won't matter

# ? Mar 13, 2020 03:34

Bubbacub: Apr 17, 2001

Rime posted:

Trans-Atlantic air travel effectively halting for a month is gonna be...a thing.

Given the unknowns of how cloud formation interacts with high altitude jets, it'll be interesting to see a data point besides 9/11.

# ? Mar 13, 2020 21:14

double nine: Aug 8, 2013

so is corona having a visible effect on carbon emissions outside china? Or is that still to come if at all? Obviously tourism-related sectors will have less transport emissions but the production increase in order to compensate for people's hoarding as well as the increased need for soaps and medical/hospital equipment might be negating that reduction?

double nine fucked around with this message at 22:01 on Mar 13, 2020

# ? Mar 13, 2020 21:59

Ras Het: May 23, 2007; when I was a child, I spake as a child, I understood as a child, I thought as a child - but now I am a man.

double nine posted:

so is corona having a visible effect on carbon emissions outside china? Or is that still to come if at all? Obviously tourism-related sectors will have less transport emissions but the production increase in order to compensate for people's hoarding as well as the increased need for soaps and medical/hospital equipment might be negating that reduction?

Yes, northern Italy already has the best quality of air in quite a while

# ? Mar 13, 2020 22:03

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

Lmao at thinking that a capitalist system that's survived multiple world wars won't survive a year where everyone gets sick for a few weeks and the annual death rate gets a bit of a boost.

No things aren't going to be exactly the same a year from now as they are now, but this isn't the end of neoliberal capitalism.

I mean don't get me wrong it'd be sweet if it was, but nah. SSDD.

# ? Mar 13, 2020 22:11

Kunabomber: Oct 1, 2002; Pillbug

Those wars served to provide massive injections of cash and state funded technology to be used by capitalism.

# ? Mar 13, 2020 22:13

EvilJoven: Mar 18, 2005; NOBODY,IN THE HISTORY OF EVER, HAS ASKED OR CARED WHAT CANADA THINKS. YOU ARE NOT A COUNTRY. YOUR MONEY HAS THE QUEEN OF ENGLAND ON IT. IF YOU DIG AROUND IN YOUR BACKYARD, NATIVE SKELETONS WOULD EXPLODE OUT OF YOUR LAWN LIKE THE END OF POLTERGEIST. CANADA IS SO POLITE, EH?; Fun Shoe

Have you been reading the news? Governments are already using this pandemic as an excuse to provide massive injections of cash to capitalists in order to prop up this system.

There is no limit to what world leaders will sacrifice in order to save Number.

# ? Mar 13, 2020 22:23

MightyBigMinus: Jan 26, 2020

double nine posted:

so is corona having a visible effect on carbon emissions outside china? Or is that still to come if at all? Obviously tourism-related sectors will have less transport emissions but the production increase in order to compensate for people's hoarding as well as the increased need for soaps and medical/hospital equipment might be negating that reduction?

the correlation between gdp and energy consumption globaly is almost perfectly 1:1. the correlation between energy consumption and fossil fuel combustion is 1:0.95, so just round it to 1:1.

meaning, look for gdp estimates. those are also going to be the emissions number. my guess is we'll see a global -5 to -10% for 2020.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 03:36

VideoGameVet: May 14, 2005; It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

I created this meme

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# ? Mar 14, 2020 03:43

WAR CRIME GIGOLO: Oct 3, 2012; The Hague
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EvilJoven posted:

Have you been reading the news? Governments are already using this pandemic as an excuse to provide massive injections of cash to capitalists in order to prop up this system.

There is no limit to what world leaders will sacrifice in order to save Number.

The government has as much stake in a financial collapse as the private market does. Remember who had to buy up the bad debt.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 05:51

Rip Testes: Jan 29, 2004; I never forget a face, but in your case I'll be glad to make an exception.

How much hotter is 2020 expected to be versus 2019 due to Coronavirus? With with industry idling and cutbacks that would mean less particulates in the air reducing dimming, right?

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:15

golden bubble: Jun 3, 2011; yospos

https://earther.gizmodo.com/satellites-show-italys-air-pollution-dissipating-as-cov-1842316669

It's not quite as extreme as China, but it's still a huge difference.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 18:12

Potato Salad: Oct 23, 2014; nobody cares

VideoGameVet posted:

I created this meme

Hey, nukes woulda worked too

# ? Mar 16, 2020 13:03

Bar Ran Dun: Jan 22, 2006

Whoop wrong thread

# ? Mar 16, 2020 20:45

CmdrRiker: Apr 8, 2016; You dismally untalented little creep!

EvilJoven posted:

Have you been reading the news? Governments are already using this pandemic as an excuse to provide massive injections of cash to capitalists in order to prop up this system.

There is no limit to what world leaders will sacrifice in order to save Number.

So far there's a large effort sacrificing Number to save people.

# ? Mar 18, 2020 04:28