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Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

MJeff posted:

He legit sounded like he was struggling to stay conscious. Good lord, debates between him and Biden would be such a shitshow.

Have it moderated by Ben Carson. I know he's on Trump's side, but you try keeping him awake long enough to remember that.

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Apogee15
Jun 16, 2013
How are some people still so deluded as to believe that Bernie can still win the nomination? Biden could take a giant poo poo during the debate and still win. Bernie even lost in Seattle.

-edit- also no is going to watch the debate when they already know Biden has the nomination

Apogee15 fucked around with this message at 05:42 on Mar 12, 2020

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold
were about to test the pants making GBS threads hypothesis, just hang on a couple more days and you can go have your sundowning loser contest

Apogee15
Jun 16, 2013

Raskolnikov38 posted:

were about to test the pants making GBS threads hypothesis, just hang on a couple more days and you can go have your sundowning loser contest

Like what, you think Biden is going to lose at the debate so badly that it swings florida like 40 points, and every other state 20?

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Apogee15 posted:

-edit- also no is going to watch the debate when they already know Biden has the nomination

They don't have to watch the debate.

If Biden makes a fool of himself during it, I'd wager those clips will get played on repeat on poo poo like Fox News.

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Apogee15 posted:

Like what, you think Biden is going to lose at the debate so badly that it swings florida like 40 points, and every other state 20?

you’re right let’s just hand Alzheimer’s joe the nomination and commit to losing November right now

Kirios
Jan 26, 2010




Raskolnikov38 posted:

you’re right let’s just hand Alzheimer’s joe the nomination and commit to losing November right now

But enough about the DNC

Apogee15
Jun 16, 2013

Raskolnikov38 posted:

you’re right let’s just hand Alzheimer’s joe the nomination and commit to losing November right now

I'm not advocating for him, I'm saying he's already been handed the nom. It's over.

Solanumai
Mar 26, 2006

It's shrine maiden, not shrine maid!
The overall dismissive aversion centrists have regarding Biden debating Bernie is reason enough it needs to happen.

We can pretend people aren't worried Biden's gonna poo poo himself but everyone knows it's totally possible he starts calling Bernie a fatty and challenging him to pickleball or something.

E: it might not actually matter in the end but if I have to deal with the bad feelings and vote for this idiot I want everyone to feel a little bit bad about it too. If the net result is everyone goes to the polls knowing they're voting for their spaced out racist grandpa, fine. I'm over it.

Solanumai fucked around with this message at 06:04 on Mar 12, 2020

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Apogee15 posted:

I'm not advocating for him, I'm saying he's already been handed the nom. It's over.

then it’s over Tuesday night, either way let me enjoy the delusion that’s alleviated my anxiety

Angry_Ed
Mar 30, 2010




Grimey Drawer

Zamujasa posted:

They don't have to watch the debate.

If Biden makes a fool of himself during it, I'd wager those clips will get played on repeat on poo poo like Fox News.

As we all know, most of the people that vote Democrat also watch Fox News.

Otteration
Jan 4, 2014

I CAN'T SAY PRESIDENT DONALD JOHN TRUMP'S NAME BECAUSE HE'S LIKE THAT GUY FROM HARRY POTTER AND I'M AFRAID I'LL SUMMON HIM. DONALD JOHN TRUMP. YOUR FAVORITE PRESIDENT.
OUR 47TH PRESIDENT AFTER THE ONE WHO SHOWERS WITH HIS DAUGHTER DIES
Grimey Drawer
“Once a reporter asked him, "Do you really think you are going to change the policies of this country by standing out here alone at night in front of the White House with a candle?"

A.J. Muste replied softly: "Oh I don't do this to change the country. I do this so the country won't change me.”

Apogee15
Jun 16, 2013

Raskolnikov38 posted:

then it’s over Tuesday night, either way let me enjoy the delusion that’s alleviated my anxiety

That's a silly thing to let your mental health rest on. Just pretend none of it matters like the rest of us.

Son of Thunderbeast
Sep 21, 2002

Apogee15 posted:

That's a silly thing to let your mental health rest on.
Thanks, doctor.

Ice Phisherman
Apr 12, 2007

Swimming upstream
into the sunset



MJeff posted:

He legit sounded like he was struggling to stay conscious. Good lord, debates between him and Biden would be such a shitshow.

No more questions please. Vice President Biden needs to go nap-nap.

Rainbow Knight
Apr 19, 2006

We die.
We pray.
To live.
We serve

edit: nevermind

Rainbow Knight fucked around with this message at 06:20 on Mar 12, 2020

MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR

Apogee15 posted:

How are some people still so deluded as to believe that Bernie can still win the nomination? Biden could take a giant poo poo during the debate and still win. Bernie even lost in Seattle.

-edit- also no is going to watch the debate when they already know Biden has the nomination

Then what's the difference? If it's already over no matter what, what's the difference between ending it now and ending it later?

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Apogee15 posted:

How are some people still so deluded as to believe that Bernie can still win the nomination? Biden could take a giant poo poo during the debate and still win. Bernie even lost in Seattle.

-edit- also no is going to watch the debate when they already know Biden has the nomination

This is a weird thing to be condescending over, given how much doom and gloom there’s been ITT over the past couple weeks. No one is under any illusions here. We just want to see Biden embarrass himself.

gently caress off, smug rear end in a top hat.

1stGear
Jan 16, 2010

Here's to the new us.
The debate isn't important because its going to change people's minds, its important because the people who cannot be changed should be made to own it. They should be made to face the dementia-addled Republican-lite they've staked this country's future on. They need to suffer every goddamn hour they continue to believe Joe is a more "electable" candidate than Bernie. They need to wriggle and squirm as they walk to polls, knowing there's a better choice and still refusing to take it.

This position is not noble or Bernie-like, but gently caress it. If all we have left is to rage against the dying of the light, then we should loving rage.

Ytlaya
Nov 13, 2005

In my opinion the best thing to do if you know someone who supports/voted for Biden (and you're pretty sure they can't be persuaded otherwise) is to just express deep disappointment in them, or concern about the consequences of their choice. This is also the best approach to take online.

If you act angry at people and insult them, they'll usually just double down and attribute it to "trolls/Bernie Bros." But people have a harder time knowing how to respond to something like "that's awful of you to say!" or (if applicable) expressing your very real concerns about why M4A is important to you (or immigration, etc). Or just be like "I care about ______ and I'm really worried about ______ if Biden is President." Basically don't frame it as a direct attack on Biden or an attempt to prove them wrong. This can also be considered "concern trolling" (though I'm not sure if it's really "trolling" if the concerns are genuine).

This is perhaps the greatest lesson being a Jew has imparted to me. Guilting people is usually superior to expressing direct anger.

The exception to this is pro-Biden public figures or people who frequently engage in "intra-left discourse" (like the people in this thread who are either pro-Biden or contemptuous of Sanders supporters). Those people are either disingenuous (the latter) or bloodthirsty freaks without empathy (the former).

Axetrain
Sep 14, 2007

Rad Russian posted:

The olds have some sort of fetish for voting for the most barely functional grandpas running. Like I'm sure if there was a candidate in hospice care on ventilator, they'd nominate him to just to stick it to the whiny youth.

Iron Lung Bernie 2020

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

1stGear posted:

The debate isn't important because its going to change people's minds, its important because the people who cannot be changed should be made to own it. They should be made to face the dementia-addled Republican-lite they've staked this country's future on. They need to suffer every goddamn hour they continue to believe Joe is a more "electable" candidate than Bernie. They need to wriggle and squirm as they walk to polls, knowing there's a better choice and still refusing to take it.

This position is not noble or Bernie-like, but gently caress it. If all we have left is to rage against the dying of the light, then we should loving rage.

Yeah! The progressive/socialist movement could use a good, defining image of how unsuited to the needs of the moment the Dems are. I mean, we have a few, but Biden shirting himself figuratively or literally would be particularly nice.

ded redd
Aug 1, 2010

by Fluffdaddy
Ignoring the hypothesis that it's partial paralysis, is this just Biden's dentures malfunctioning? Is there any other reason why his jaw attempts an escape from his face in the blink of an eye?
https://twitter.com/Abelbc85/status/1237960261543346176

Apogee15
Jun 16, 2013

MJeff posted:

Then what's the difference? If it's already over no matter what, what's the difference between ending it now and ending it later?

What do you mean? I never said the process should end or that Bernie should drop out or that the debate shouldn't happen. Not sure where any of you got the impression that i'm somehow a Biden supporter. I'm just a realist.


Bernie absolutely should still do the debate and stay in the race, he can take part in the narrative that way. I just think it's dumb for people to act like he still has a shot at winning.

Majorian
Jul 1, 2009

Apogee15 posted:

What do you mean? I never said the process should end or that Bernie should drop out or that the debate shouldn't happen. Not sure where any of you got the impression that i'm somehow a Biden supporter. I'm just a realist.


Bernie absolutely should still do the debate and stay in the race, he can take part in the narrative that way. I just think it's dumb for people to act like he still has a shot at winning.

It kind of feels like you’re admonishing people in this thread without having read what people have actually posted. Because again, no one here is under any illusions about Bernie’s chances.

For_Great_Justice
Apr 21, 2010

JUST CAN'T SHUT THE FUCK UP ABOUT HOW MUCH I HATE GAMES WORKSHOP!
At least expose Bidens weaknesses in the safe zone to prepare ahead a of time.

Throwing him unprepared against trump is a sure fire way to lose. Trump will just wait for q verbal gently caress up an never stop going on it. We're talking about a dude literally chanting bing bong on stage it will happen with a addled Biden.

They literally cannot withhold Biden from debates with Trump it will just be free total air time to diss him.

Jesus gently caress why does snyobe think Biden has a stars chance better than Hillary is living in a bubble.

Despera
Jun 6, 2011

Majorian posted:

It kind of feels like you’re admonishing people in this thread without having read what people have actually posted. Because again, no one here is under any illusions about Bernie’s chances.

You mean the two boards that think Bernie 30% could do better in the general than Biden?

Despera
Jun 6, 2011
Oh right the crew who thought the person who couldnt beat Hillary could beat someone semi likable.

Katt
Nov 14, 2017

Aw gently caress. Boomers are going to have enough time to vote for Biden in the primary and then Corona is going to wipe them all out and the remaining young Bernie voters will grudgingly vote for Biden in the election and he'll win and neoliberalism will triumph.

ScottyJSno
Aug 16, 2010

日本が大好きです!
https://twitter.com/JeffPassan/status/1237952267325550593?s=19

Fell down a Twitter hole...

https://twitter.com/TChitester/status/1237952396837490688?s=19

https://twitter.com/TChitester/status/1237929661591629832?s=19

https://twitter.com/TChitester/status/1237760410918555653?s=19

https://twitter.com/TChitester/status/1235041511697334272?s=19


A4R8
Feb 28, 2020
So what kind of drugs are they going to pump Joe full of before the debate in order to make him appear somewhat coherent?

FRINGE
May 23, 2003
title stolen for lf posting

A4R8 posted:

So what kind of drugs are they going to pump Joe full of before the debate in order to make him appear somewhat coherent?

Depends on how the clean child blood supply is holding out post-pandemic.

Chef Boyardeez Nuts
Sep 9, 2011

The more you kick against the pricks, the more you suffer.

Despera posted:

Oh right the crew who thought the person who couldnt beat Hillary could beat someone semi likable.

I used to work for an elderly accountant who was losing cognitive capacity and the aggression Biden shows when confronted is really similar to how the dude would aggro to distract from not being able to speak as authoritatively as he used to.

Expect a very yelly debate.

Lemming
Apr 21, 2008

Despera posted:

Oh right the crew who thought the person who couldnt beat Hillary could beat someone semi likable.

Jesus the bootlicking is just completely disgusting, what's with all of them coming out of the woodwork?

Zamujasa
Oct 27, 2010



Bread Liar

Angry_Ed posted:

As we all know, most of the people that vote Democrat also watch Fox News.

The target demographic is olds, and they watch FN in droves. It's also the default white noise for a lot of TVs in businesses.

MSDOS KAPITAL
Jun 25, 2018





Despera posted:

You mean the two boards that think Bernie 30% could do better in the general than Biden?
You haven't engaged anybody who's given you the obvious and correct rebuttal to this, so gently caress off.

A4R8
Feb 28, 2020

Chef Boyardeez Nuts posted:

I used to work for an elderly accountant who was losing cognitive capacity and the aggression Biden shows when confronted is really similar to how the dude would aggro to distract from not being able to speak as authoritatively as he used to.

Expect a very yelly debate.

lmao Trump is going to cause a Biden stroke on live TV, isn’t he?

Big Hubris
Mar 8, 2011


A4R8 posted:

lmao Trump is going to cause a Biden stroke on live TV, isn’t he?

Trump's best bet of doing that is to imprison Hunter before the debate and have him killed during.

Cactus Ghost
Dec 20, 2003

you can actually inflate your scrote pretty safely with sterile saline, syringes, needles, and aseptic technique. its a niche kink iirc

the saline just slowly gets absorbed into your blood but in the meantime you got a big round smooth distended nutsack

Otteration posted:

“Once a reporter asked him, "Do you really think you are going to change the policies of this country by standing out here alone at night in front of the White House with a candle?"

A.J. Muste replied softly: "Oh I don't do this to change the country. I do this so the country won't change me.”

gently caress yea

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MJeff
Jun 2, 2011

THE LIAR
The coronavirus being the wakeup call this country desperately needs on healthcare happening like literally one week too late is some really hosed up poo poo, imo.

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