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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race?
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R. Allin-Khan 6 1.60%
R. Burgon 80 21.33%
D. Butler 72 19.20%
A. Rayner 35 9.33%
I. Murray 5 1.33%
P. Flaps 177 47.20%
Total: 375 votes
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Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

Sanford posted:

No he said this won't happen. He's heard that it's an estimated 20% of the workforce over a six month period which is only a couple of people a week. I started to correct his understanding of those figures and he said (in front of the full management team) "LOOK IF YOU WANT TO WORK FROM HOME SO BADLY WE CAN ARRANGE THAT AND PROBABLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS ON YOUR REMUNERATION AT THE SAME TIME" so I dropped it and the discussion ended. He's definitely a person who knows above all else that number must go up, and he has had the opportunity to learn that consequences are something that happens to other people, not him.
Looks like he gets to test his theory.

Azza Bamboo fucked around with this message at 12:41 on Mar 12, 2020

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Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

XMNN
Apr 26, 2008
I am incredibly stupid

fuckingg do something before it's too late, oh my god

Angepain
Jul 13, 2012

what keeps happening to my clothes

Sanford posted:

No he said this won't happen. He's heard that it's an estimated 20% of the workforce over a six month period which is only a couple of people a week. I started to correct his understanding of those figures and he said (in front of the full management team) "LOOK IF YOU WANT TO WORK FROM HOME SO BADLY WE CAN ARRANGE THAT AND PROBABLY HAVE A DISCUSSION ABOUT EXACTLY WHAT IMPACT THAT HAS ON YOUR REMUNERATION AT THE SAME TIME" so I dropped it and the discussion ended. He's definitely a person who knows above all else that number must go up, and he has had the opportunity to learn that consequences are something that happens to other people, not him.

I'd say make sure to get everyone in the office to touch their face and put their hands all over the surfaces in his office but it'd only result in him infecting a series of vulnerable elderly people when he spits at them for being in his way on the street or something

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Azza Bamboo
Apr 7, 2018


THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021
Can we trust China's figures on its own performance though?

Jippa
Feb 13, 2009
My local supermarket had fully filled shelves of toilet roll/hand wash and pretty much everything after being emptied on monday.

Hopefully, that means the supplies are catching up.

Comrade Fakename
Feb 13, 2012


I got on the tube this morning and there was a class of primary school children on a school trip.

Maybe not the best time to drag thirty virus incubators around London's tourist hotspots?

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Paging Coohoolin to the thread, check in please.

Loonytoad Quack
Aug 24, 2004

High on Shatner's Bassoon
There are some really worrying noises coming out of the government that they're going to let this run rife "to build herd immunity" rather than actually, you know, do anything.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1238038497052762113

Herd immunity is great, but the way to achieve that is via vaccinations, not by letting literally everyone catch it, 3-6% of people drop dead, and then hope the survivors build a good enough immunity to stop it the next time round.

Fingers crossed something more concrete comes out the COBRA meeting, but I'm not holding my breath (because I won't be able to since my lungs will be riddled with COVID-19).

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP
Peston seems to be the only person reporting the Herd Immunity angle at the moment, I've not been able to find any reference to it anywhere else.

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
Also the virus has already mutated once and people have shown no signs of gaining immunity?

Deketh
Feb 26, 2006
That's a nice fucking fish
So erm, this would be a bad time for me to start weekly therapy sessions at a doctor's surgery right? Thinking I should be cancelling that

Aipsh
Feb 17, 2006


GLUPP SHITTO FAN CLUB PRESIDENT
I would seriously hope that Ireland’s response would embarrass the govt into doing I dunno, something, but they’re just going to double down on “ONLY BRITANE SOLDIERS ON” aren’t they?

Darth Walrus
Feb 13, 2012
Seriously, what's going on in Japan? They have an incredibly low test rate for how badly affected they look like they're going to be by this. Their healthcare service is pretty good, and you'd think that having to cancel the loving Olympics would get them off their backsides.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Jippa posted:

My local supermarket had fully filled shelves of toilet roll/hand wash and pretty much everything after being emptied on monday.

Hopefully, that means the supplies are catching up.

Other way round for mine, no bog roll, rice or pasta today although they were fully stocked on Sunday. However they did have shitloads of tinned and frozen food so I can't help but think that there's some bullshit running round Facebook or something.

Isomermaid
Dec 3, 2019

Swish swish, like a fish

Loonytoad Quack posted:

There are some really worrying noises coming out of the government that they're going to let this run rife "to build herd immunity" rather than actually, you know, do anything.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1238038497052762113

Herd immunity is great, but the way to achieve that is via vaccinations, not by letting literally everyone catch it, 3-6% of people drop dead, and then hope the survivors build a good enough immunity to stop it the next time round.

Fingers crossed something more concrete comes out the COBRA meeting, but I'm not holding my breath (because I won't be able to since my lungs will be riddled with COVID-19).

"So you're saying if we let everyone who it was fatal to just die, then by definition whatever population is left is 100% immune?"

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Darth Walrus posted:

Seriously, what's going on in Japan? They have an incredibly low test rate for how badly affected they look like they're going to be by this. Their healthcare service is pretty good, and you'd think that having to cancel the loving Olympics would get them off their backsides.

Either their initial response was perfect and they caught it well before it started community spreading or they're covering it up by selective testing restrictions like the USA.

sebzilla
Mar 17, 2009

Kid's blasting everything in sight with that new-fangled musket.


Pro speedrun strats, taking damage to save time money

TheRat
Aug 30, 2006

Darth Walrus posted:

Seriously, what's going on in Japan? They have an incredibly low test rate for how badly affected they look like they're going to be by this. Their healthcare service is pretty good, and you'd think that having to cancel the loving Olympics would get them off their backsides.

Conspiracy angle would be they're terrified of having the olympics cancelled

big scary monsters
Sep 2, 2011

-~Skullwave~-

Deketh posted:

So erm, this would be a bad time for me to start weekly therapy sessions at a doctor's surgery right? Thinking I should be cancelling that

Speak to your doctor? They ought to have a good handle on it you'd hope.

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

goddamnedtwisto posted:

I can't help but think that there's some bullshit running round Facebook or something.
That seems like a fair bet, up there with the professed faith of the Roman Pope.

Deketh
Feb 26, 2006
That's a nice fucking fish

big scary monsters posted:

Speak to your doctor? They ought to have a good handle on it you'd hope.

Yeah they just said come in tomorrow for the session, if official advice changes then they'd let me know. But official advice seems to be lacking at the mo and I don't have any faith in it keeping people safe. I've been waiting for the therapy for a few months so I don't wanna lose out. My therapist should call me back to discuss so I'll see what they say

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
:sigh:

I was going to bold some lines but just read the whole loving thing

quote:

Amazon offers unlimited unpaid sick days

Amazon workers will be able to take unlimited sick days this month - but will not be paid unless they test positive for the new coronavirus.

Workers who are diagnosed with Covid-19 will be entitled to two weeks' sick pay.

In a blog post, Amazon said the health and safety of its employees and contractors was its "top priority".

Many Amazon warehouse workers in the US are entitled to just 10 days off a year in total - which includes leave for sickness, holidays, and emergencies.

Some workers asked Amazon to change this, in light of the outbreak.

They also said that, rather than being given time off, they were told to increase their hours because of increased demand and staff shortages.

BBC News had access to an online forum used by about 25,000 Amazon warehouse workers, in which people said the company's previous policy would cause the virus to "spread like wildfire".

Tsietisin
Jul 2, 2004

Time passes quickly on the weekend.

How have Americans not rioted about their employment rights?

Total Meatlove
Jan 28, 2007

:japan:
Rangers died, shoujo Hitler cried ;_;
:lol: Wes Streeting asking Andrea Leadsom to name one positive thing Chris Grayling has ever done and she flubbed it

Strom Cuzewon
Jul 1, 2010

Tsietisin posted:

How have Americans not rioted about their employment rights?

What? Like some kinda socialist leech? Real 'muricans don't need rights, just freedom.

oxford_town
Aug 6, 2009

Tsietisin posted:

How have Americans not rioted about their employment rights?

It's a free country. What is this, Red China?

Guavanaut
Nov 27, 2009

Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998



Toilet Rascal

Total Meatlove posted:

:lol: Wes Streeting asking Andrea Leadsom to name one positive thing Chris Grayling has ever done and she flubbed it
He stopped 50 terrorist attacks in his first day on the intelligence committee.
__________\


Tsietisin posted:

How have Americans not rioted about their employment rights?
Well, there was this.

goddamnedtwisto
Dec 31, 2004

If you ask me about the mole people in the London Underground, I WILL be forced to kill you
Fun Shoe

Tsietisin posted:

How have Americans not rioted about their employment rights?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K_LvRPX0rGY

Rustybear
Nov 16, 2006
what the thunder said

Loonytoad Quack posted:

There are some really worrying noises coming out of the government that they're going to let this run rife "to build herd immunity" rather than actually, you know, do anything.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1238038497052762113

Herd immunity is great, but the way to achieve that is via vaccinations, not by letting literally everyone catch it, 3-6% of people drop dead, and then hope the survivors build a good enough immunity to stop it the next time round.

Fingers crossed something more concrete comes out the COBRA meeting, but I'm not holding my breath (because I won't be able to since my lungs will be riddled with COVID-19).

If the WHO estimates are correct the numbers for letting this thing run wild are insane.

A million dead by xmas from the disease itself; another 750,000 from secondary effects. That's unreal.

WWI was 1 million British dead in 4 years, WWII was ~300,000 in 6 years.

1.75million in 6 months.

Jedit
Dec 10, 2011

Proudly supporting vanilla legends 1994-2014

Guavanaut posted:

He stopped 50 terrorist attacks in his first day on the intelligence committee.

"By Allah - bloody infidels, stealing our jobs!"

baka kaba
Jul 19, 2003

PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I'm kinda wondering how much of this lax response is just governments gambling everything on a vaccine turning up before the consequences of inaction hit

Lungboy
Aug 23, 2002

NEED SQUAT FORM HELP

Total Meatlove posted:

:lol: Wes Streeting asking Andrea Leadsom to name one positive thing Chris Grayling has ever done and she flubbed it

He provided the absolute peak Brexit moment with the Ferry Fiasco.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

baka kaba posted:

I'm kinda wondering how much of this lax response is just governments gambling everything on a vaccine turning up before the consequences of inaction hit

It's more that throwing all the money in the world at this will only slightly delay the inevitable.

Darth Walrus posted:

Seriously, what's going on in Japan? They have an incredibly low test rate for how badly affected they look like they're going to be by this. Their healthcare service is pretty good, and you'd think that having to cancel the loving Olympics would get them off their backsides.

From what I recall reading in February, Japan basically knows their healthcare system can cope as long as only those with severe symptoms turn up, so that's what they did - they said "if you catch it, take bedrest if you can, and call the hospital if you can't." They probably do have way more cases than they've officially reported but those people just self-isolated and lasted it out rather than go to the hospital just to get a test and then go home to do the bedrest anyway. Also East Asia has history of facemasking when you know you're infected with something, which helps limit the spread of the disease.

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Loonytoad Quack posted:

There are some really worrying noises coming out of the government that they're going to let this run rife "to build herd immunity" rather than actually, you know, do anything.

https://twitter.com/Peston/status/1238038497052762113

Herd immunity is great, but the way to achieve that is via vaccinations, not by letting literally everyone catch it, 3-6% of people drop dead, and then hope the survivors build a good enough immunity to stop it the next time round.

Fingers crossed something more concrete comes out the COBRA meeting, but I'm not holding my breath (because I won't be able to since my lungs will be riddled with COVID-19).

Some idiot official mentioned it on bbc breakfast and you could see his brain cog wirring hoping there were no follow up questions such as “herd immunity means everyone gets it?!”

RockyB
Mar 8, 2007


Dog Therapy: Shockingly Good
Down 9.7% on the FTSE today. Possibly going to go much, much lower depending on what happens after the American markets re-open (they gave them a 15 minute timeout just after they opened, it got that bad).

Assuming we don't get a rebound, this is officially worse than any day in 2008/9.

MeinPanzer
Dec 20, 2004
anyone who reads Cinema Discusso for anything more than slackjawed trolling will see the shittiness in my posts
I'm an employee at a major Scottish university and despite our two-week spring break starting on Saturday all the administration has announced over the last three days is that school trips are cancelled and that students who travel abroad for the break should plan on having to self-isolate if they return and take some learning materials with them if they can't come back. Departments have been holding seminars this week on how to set up online teaching but the university has still said that they may only officially move to online teaching *after March 29*. Meanwhile all faculty and staff who have had constant contact with our highly international student body are still expected to come to campus... Also most of my colleagues seem to have been entirely oblivious to the possibility that restrictions might have been imminent until just a few days ago -- one person I was speaking to was still planning up until last Friday on travelling to Italy for work next week, and another was still scheduled to lead a group of students through Greece up until a few days ago.

It's unbelievable that UK universities are implementing measures as simple as moving all teaching to online (something that most faculty members have experience with anyway by now) later than their US counterparts. The US government is actively trying to prevent such measures from being implemented, but administrations are going ahead with it anyway because they realize that they need to take the initiative. There's no way that UK campuses will still be open and operating normally by the end of March, but universities are basically pretending as if they will be and making it difficult for people to be able to plan accordingly.

Tesseraction
Apr 5, 2009

RockyB posted:

(they gave them a 15 minute timeout just after they opened, it got that bad).

For the second time this week lol. Wall Street has 'circuit breakers' auto-trigger if the S&P drops 7% and subsequently 13%. If those two 15 minute pauses don't stop it hitting 20% then all trading is done for the day.

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bornbytheriver
Apr 23, 2010

MeinPanzer posted:

I'm an employee at a major Scottish university and despite our two-week spring break starting on Saturday all the administration has announced over the last three days is that school trips are cancelled and that students who travel abroad for the break should plan on having to self-isolate if they return and take some learning materials with them if they can't come back. Departments have been holding seminars this week on how to set up online teaching but the university has still said that they may only officially move to online teaching *after March 29*. Meanwhile all faculty and staff who have had constant contact with our highly international student body are still expected to come to campus... Also most of my colleagues seem to have been entirely oblivious to the possibility that restrictions might have been imminent until just a few days ago -- one person I was speaking to was still planning up until last Friday on travelling to Italy for work next week, and another was still scheduled to lead a group of students through Greece up until a few days ago.

It's unbelievable that UK universities are implementing measures as simple as moving all teaching to online (something that most faculty members have experience with anyway by now) later than their US counterparts. The US government is actively trying to prevent such measures from being implemented, but administrations are going ahead with it anyway because they realize that they need to take the initiative. There's no way that UK campuses will still be open and operating normally by the end of March, but universities are basically pretending as if they will be and making it difficult for people to be able to plan accordingly.

UCL, for one, does not give a gently caress, forcing all its employees to come to work. Managers are openly belittling staff who are worried about the outbreak. I have considered recording one of them on my phone yesterday and sending it to some news outlet. You have to seek manager's special permission to work remotely and we've been told that if you want to take paid leave you have to book it at least 4 days in advance. No emergency leave is allowed as they clocked that people are scared, and because UCL is yet to send everyone home, staff have started asking for leave en masse.

One of the UCL students from the Far East was in the news for being assaulted on Oxford street by a group of crazy people telling him go back home with his virus.

Yesterday, a woman in my open plan office reported that her mother tested positive.

I hate this country.

bornbytheriver fucked around with this message at 15:15 on Mar 12, 2020

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