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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
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80 | 21.33% |
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177 | 47.20% |
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Saros posted:Hundreds of thousands will die not tens, almost all of them over 60, however something like 600k people die normally every year in the UK and it's unlikely to double that. I pretty much agree with you in that they decided it is too expensive and disruptive to try and stop so are just leaning into it. I guarantee someone had pointed out the deaths will tend to be in more densely populated (read: Labour voting) areas.
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With companies encouraging/enforcing work from home, it certainly is a shame that nobody ever thought of some sort of universal nationalised broadband scheme. I suppose that would have been ludicrous what with the internet being a luxury only used for kids to meme on.
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Mar 13, 2020 11:40
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Does the number of politicians and footballers getting this thing not suggest that the idea we've got a few hundred or low thousands of cases is completely fanciful? 600 cases in the whole country and two of them happen to be Mikel Arteta and Callum Hudson-Odoi?
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Mar 13, 2020 11:46
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goddamnedtwisto posted:I guarantee someone had pointed out the deaths will tend to be in more densely populated (read: Labour voting) areas. Yeah but they'll also be conservative demographics so might just mean labour get a stronger foothold in this areas. I really doubt political concerns in terms of voting populations are driving this, thinking you can minimise the hit to productivity seems more believable. They said I can also buy in to the idea that Cummings is fully sold on being able to model a perfect behavioural response that will somehow skip the worst effects that traditional planning endures. It fits perfectly with the kind of approach of large scale project planning where someone heard about 'Agile' and thinks that means that cutting 30% off the budget and halving the time line for building infrastructure is viable.
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peanut- posted:Does the number of politicians and footballers getting this thing not suggest that the idea we've got a few hundred or low thousands of cases is completely fanciful? 600 cases in the whole country and two of them happen to be Mikel Arteta and Callum Hudson-Odoi? Chances are the real numbers are shockingly high
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TheRat posted:Chances are the real numbers are shockingly high Which, to be fair, might not be bad if it means the vast majority of cases are extremely mild. Though would beg the question of what has happened in Italy. Maybe pushing self-isolation during the early stages has had a big impact.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:06
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stev posted:Football's cancelled. It's no longer coming home.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:07
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ITV is claiming 10k infected based on last night. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YX2Ka-dl9FM
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All the power just went off on multiple sites and half of our UPSes just keeled over. Happy Friday 13th  MrNemo posted:I can also buy in to the idea that Cummings is fully sold on being able to model a perfect behavioural response that will somehow skip the worst effects that traditional planning endures. It fits perfectly with the kind of approach of large scale project planning where someone heard about 'Agile' and thinks that means that cutting 30% off the budget and halving the time line for building infrastructure is viable. Bundy posted:It happens of course, but probably not at any more or less an alarming rate than anywhere else when taking into account societal and economic influences. Coverage is skewed because whenever it is gang/drug/race/poor place/chav related (or can be spun/lied about to be) the media are all over it and amplifying it like we just found an intelligent signal from space.  The whole 'county lines' thing is a perfect example of that. There are drugs in towns. Someone is moving the drugs from other places to those towns, which makes sense unless Melton Mowbray has coca plantations I'm not aware of. Some of the people moving the drugs to towns have poor morals and exploit people, that's bad. But now that it has a catchy name it regularly gets turned into "urban thugs infiltrating our precious towns! have you seen them?"
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Guavanaut posted:The whole 'county lines' thing is a perfect example of that. There are drugs in towns. Someone is moving the drugs from other places to those towns, which makes sense unless Melton Mowbray has coca plantations I'm not aware of. Some of the people moving the drugs to towns have poor morals and exploit people, that's bad. But now that it has a catchy name it regularly gets turned into "urban thugs infiltrating our precious towns! have you seen them?" I think the concern around county lines is more that they tend to involve vulnerable teenagers (i.e. children) being used to move & sell drugs, often involving coercive control, financial and sexual exploitation/abuse
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Mar 13, 2020 12:11
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Mar 13, 2020 12:12
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I can't believe the wales vs scotland six nations game is still on.
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peanut- posted:Does the number of politicians and footballers getting this thing not suggest that the idea we've got a few hundred or low thousands of cases is completely fanciful? 600 cases in the whole country and two of them happen to be Mikel Arteta and Callum Hudson-Odoi? Wouldn't want to bet on it, but it's a vaguely plausible story (probably more likely that it's everywhere)
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Mar 13, 2020 12:14
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oxford_town posted:I think the concern around county lines is more that they tend to involve vulnerable teenagers being used to move & sell drugs, often involving coercive control, financial and sexual exploitation/abuse
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CGI Stardust posted:Out of my arse - one theory might be that wealthy people tend to have fairly dense social networks, and meet with people who've travelled a lot, which would put them at a higher risk of catching it from an early case and spreading it to others. Then you might see higher spread amongst the "upper echelons" first. Yeah think about the places the first European cases came from - ski resorts and business conferences. The nature of capitalist society means this was transmitted first around the geographically mobile and their enclaves and then spread to the general population. This was spread by the rich.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:18
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Two people in my office now with a persistent wheezy cough sent home.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:22
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The Deleter posted:It's no longer coming home. It's coming home It's coming home It's coming Football's coming home to self-isolate for 2 weeks
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hemale in pain posted:it's good the government haven't mentioned the final planned phase - DEATH i dunno, if they'd been upfront about their Sweet Embrace Of Death policy in december they'd have gotten the millenial vote right onboard
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peanut- posted:Which, to be fair, might not be bad if it means the vast majority of cases are extremely mild. Though would beg the question of what has happened in Italy. Maybe pushing self-isolation during the early stages has had a big impact. Just a bit of pneumonia, nbd. https://twitter.com/slaskow/status/1238089104631443456?s=20
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judging by Twitter this is really not going down well with the general public even if the science does back up the government's current degree of total inaction, people are absolutely pissed off that every other country is taking big dramatic steps and we appear to be doing gently caress all. given that this is probably a time when you want to build trust in the government and its advice it's a bit of a loving stupid move anyway if the death toll here is not essentially the same as everywhere else by the end of this, it will absolutely be on Johnson. even if it does work out, the perception of nearly everyone is that he's gambling with our lives and the lives of our loved ones e: also this quote keeps coming up https://mobile.twitter.com/danbarker/status/1238367384139902976 he just wants to be the big boy mayor who makes the tough but unpopular decisions and is proved right in the end, and who cares if a few (hundred thousand) people die unecessarily in the process XMNN fucked around with this message at 12:38 on Mar 13, 2020 |
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Mar 13, 2020 12:34
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Just came to post that. Jesus Christ we're all doomed.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:34
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Really wish that election was held maybe one year later.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:36
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Guavanaut posted:Yes, but they do that when they're not trafficking drugs into our precious pork pies and garden shows, so the rhetoric as it appears in those places is "the bad city people, did u know [those people] live there?" more than the actual cases of child exploitation and cuckooing that arise out of our hosed up social system and drug war. Fair enough. I live & work in a major city so I don't know what the mood is elsewhere. Professionally and from a brief bit of googling it seems that the words "child slavery" are almost always attached to "county lines". XMNN posted:judging by Twitter this is really not going down well with the general public twitter is not representative of the general public; if it was, Jez would have won a historic landslide and the EU ref would be 80:20 remain
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Mar 13, 2020 12:39
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Yeah after he totally fucks this up it's still another four years to the election. The media will be saying that it's rude to bring up mass death, and in any case the labour leader said "coronavirus" antisemitically.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:40
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A good labour leader would be calling for blood in kind for the death the government caused. But I don't think any of them have it in them.
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One of the top stories on the BBC nrwd this morning was "why the UK might not end up like Italy" so I'm sure we'll be fine 
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oxford_town posted:twitter is not representative of the general public; if it was, Jez would have won a historic landslide and the EU ref would be 80:20 remain yeah, I'm not sure why I left general public in there, I meant to take it out for the reasons you said. my work colleagues are probably more representative of the average voter (i.e. soft right wing, absolutely clueless about everything) but fortunately I haven't had to hear their pontificating about this. suspect the one who's primary concern about a global pandemic was "what if my wedding makeup artist gets it?? I've got no back up plan!" and was moaning about how it's all overblown because it had only killed 3 people in the UK at that point will probably have to cancel the wedding (lol) e: I am pretty concerned for the guy who's girlfriend is due to give birth in the next week or so. she's like 38 or something so I suspect you probably have to go to hospital for it? XMNN fucked around with this message at 12:55 on Mar 13, 2020 |
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Looks like the plan for basically every event is "wait for the government to cancel poo poo otherwise we lose our deposits" which is... A really bad plan. You're playing chicken with Johnson and the stakes are deposits / lives. Hopefully people will be reasonable and cancel events even if the government doesn't order them to before they're scheduled to happen.
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Mar 13, 2020 12:55
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Miftan posted:Looks like the plan for basically every event is "wait for the government to cancel poo poo otherwise we lose our deposits" which is... A really bad plan. You're playing chicken with Johnson and the stakes are deposits / lives. Hopefully people will be reasonable and cancel events even if the government doesn't order them to before they're scheduled to happen. A significant number of public events need a government edict for cancellation to be able claim on insurance. Without that they likely do not have the cash to give refunds and cancellation would mean instant bankruptcy.
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sinky posted:Only Britain Soldiers On 
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sinky posted:Only Britain Soldiers On That’s a bit misleading. What about Netherlands, Finland, etc with their schools still open?
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Mar 13, 2020 13:02
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My partners sister is due a baby in Surrey in May. That is shaping up to be interesting I'm not sure how hospitals getting overrun will affect maternity provision but it can't be good...
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^^^ has she considered the joys of home birth?Oodles posted:That’s a bit misleading. What about Netherlands, Finland, etc with their schools still open? They're dumb fucks too.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/MrHarryCole/status/1238402908888223744 I was wondering what Israel had to do with this but it's "Boris derangement syndrome" not sure I would willingly be drawing comparisons to trump if I was pro Boris? maybe he is actually bitter about getting cuckolded by Johnson, after all
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I keep seeing British medical officials saying they're "following the science" in the government response to coronavirus but what are they actually talking about here? What does Britain know that has made everyone else's response so wrong and their officials incorrect? Genuinely if there's any evidence online of the science they're talking about I'd love to see it.
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