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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
| R. Burgon |
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80 | 21.33% |
| D. Butler |
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| A. Rayner |
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| I. Murray |
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5 | 1.33% |
| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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JeremoudCorbynejad posted:It's happening, my office is shutting next week, minimum of 2-3 months. Glad i brought all my catfood home from the office. Wait, you work somewhere super serious re: closing, right? 
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Pesmerga posted:Today's official stats are out, 290 more infections, taking us to 798. 
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Mar 13, 2020 15:35
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Regarde Aduck posted:I mean the bigger thing here that important people that could bring up but aren't is that the plan requires everyone to get it. But there are many people that 'getting it' will kill. So the plan is just abandoning these people. Have lung or immune system issues? You're literally being left to die. The difference between 40 million people and everyone getting it is also ~800,000 extra deaths. Hope you're confident, Boris 
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Mar 13, 2020 15:35
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Friends it is a lot at the moment. I'm getting so insanely anxious about this, despite the fact that self-isolation is basically my standard operating procedure and I routinely was my hands enough every winter that I have to moisturise them regularly to keep them from loving bleeding, between this, my first paycheque getting hit with an emergency tax code costing me five loving hundred quid, my car being in the process of dying and needing to be replaced, and any of half a dozen other things including the pressures of a new job, (still probably) being forced to undergo unnecessary travel during the loving plague, and the knowledge of our country's loving idiotic response to this... In addition to the usual constant low level awareness of how hilariously hosed everything is... JFC it's a lot at the moment. I'm genuinely regretting getting a job, which makes me feel goddamn awful given how hard I worked to get it and how much other people want them. Is there anything positive to be seen at present? Because I would quite like some positivity.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:37
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Red Oktober posted:The holiday might well be cancelable - my partner and I have just cancelled our New York trip and been offered a full refund despite having non refundable rooms. Useful to know, I'm friends with the agent who booked it so I'll shout her when she's back on Monday, unless she gets isolated coming back from Sri Lanka.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:38
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thespaceinvader posted:Friends it is a lot at the moment. I'm getting so insanely anxious about this, despite the fact that self-isolation is basically my standard operating procedure and I routinely was my hands enough every winter that I have to moisturise them regularly to keep them from loving bleeding, between this, my first paycheque getting hit with an emergency tax code costing me five loving hundred quid, my car being in the process of dying and needing to be replaced, and any of half a dozen other things including the pressures of a new job, (still probably) being forced to undergo unnecessary travel during the loving plague, and the knowledge of our country's loving idiotic response to this... In addition to the usual constant low level awareness of how hilariously hosed everything is... If things continue as they are it'll be over in just over a month, and everyone in the UK will have had it, so you won't have to worry for long?
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Mar 13, 2020 15:39
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Red Oktober posted:The holiday might well be cancelable - my partner and I have just cancelled our New York trip and been offered a full refund despite having non refundable rooms. I think I remember reading that EU rules says that an official WHO-Pandemic means that force majeure is no longer available to insurance companies
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Mar 13, 2020 15:39
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oxford_town posted:
this is how i'm hearing it too from the people not posting that regular sips of water kill the coronavirus I personally am skeptical because it seems like in the UK vs China approaches, lets say they both result in x% of the population getting it, the UK over 5 months and develops immunity, china slowly over 12+ months with herd immunity developing but more slowly. at the end of this process both countries have herd immunity, but one stresses the healthcare system much more which we know increases mortality significantly. if the idea is you need 60% of the population to get infected for the UKs plan but potentially in china say 80 or 90% get infected over slower periods, the drop in mortality from having enough or nearly enough ICU beds etc more than compensates for the increased infections in the latter case. I suspect that the experts have recognised that the NHS absolutely cannot handle this, compared to most of europe our ICU bed availability is basically third-world. and naturally as tories do instead of actually trying to rectify that and saving x% of the dead, they'd rather just do nothing and have another few percent of victims die while saving money and effort. as far as i can tell there is no inkling of them trying to buy or make more ventilators or ICU beds? I suppose to give them the benefit of the doubt the grim maths going on here is its better for the NHS to completely collapse under the weight of the dying for 5 months than for 12+ months. Olewithmilk posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1238366264747270144?s=20 the issue with something like this is if it becomes seasonal, which i've actually heard used as an argument FOR the UK's plan, if the virus is mutating each season and reinfecting... well our herd immunity means nothing if we get unlucky and the wrong bit mutates. and theres already evidence of a mutation in italy. someone do that graphic design frog but its "epidemiology is my passion" next to my 2:2 biochem degree lol
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Mar 13, 2020 15:43
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thespaceinvader posted:
I would honestly limit your exposure to the news! Concentrate on the stuff you can influence (your job, fixing your car, keeping you and your family safe) and let somebody else worry about the apocalyptic headlines.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:48
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Pistol_Pete posted:I would honestly limit your exposure to the news! Concentrate on the stuff you can influence (your job, fixing your car, keeping you and your family safe) and let somebody else worry about the apocalyptic headlines. I genuinely don't read the news much at all. Not reading the news does not stop me being aware that, for instance, billionaires exist.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:49
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Getting this strange urge to go around care homes and cough in the faces of the elderly, how can I supress these urges
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Mar 13, 2020 15:50
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Labour Party cancelling all regular meetings
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Mar 13, 2020 15:50
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thespaceinvader posted:
even high risk people are more likely to live than not. most people are at fairly low risk. theres a chance that the actual mortality is significantly lower since we're not testing everyone. korea has the best testing programs (iirc) and has the lowest mortality rate (unfortunately afaik italy is also now testing loads of people and has a real high one, so uh....)
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Mar 13, 2020 15:53
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thespaceinvader posted:Is there anything positive to be seen at present? Because I would quite like some positivity. Bitcoin is tanking*. Watching the reaction to that has been quite fun. *Seems to have a recovered but did hit a lol £2000 in value gone over the cliff edge early this morning.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:57
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Ash Crimson posted:Getting this strange urge to go around care homes and cough in the faces of the elderly, how can I supress these urges Ash, seriously, take a loving chill pill.
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Mar 13, 2020 15:58
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lol Bolsanaro tested positive (second definitive test still in progress) and he met Trump a week ago
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Mar 13, 2020 16:03
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Oscar Romeo Romeo posted:Bitcoin is tanking*. Watching the reaction to that has been quite fun. Lol, even more imaginary than regular money. "But it's backed by math! MATH!"
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Mar 13, 2020 16:06
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thespaceinvader posted:
Remember when we were all worried about Brexit? Doesn't seem as bad now, eh? nobody post about the possibility of a no-deal brexit happening at the end of the year
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Mar 13, 2020 16:06
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oxford_town posted:Remember when we were all worried about Brexit? Doesn't seem as bad now, eh? Yes, a reminder of one of the many apocalypses bearing down on us is definitely exactly what I mean by positivity. Thanks for that. Sincerely.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:09
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Olewithmilk posted:https://twitter.com/SkyNewsBreak/status/1238366264747270144?s=20 honestly they need to be making field hospitals yesterday and reminding people what happened with the spanish flu - there'll be initial panic but the public need to know yesterday
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Mar 13, 2020 16:16
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thespaceinvader posted:Yes, a reminder of one of the many apocalypses bearing down on us is definitely exactly what I mean by positivity. Sorry. Here is some actual good news: remdesivir looks like it might be a promising treatment for COVID-19 although data is still limited.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:18
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StarkingBarfish posted:Wait, you work somewhere super serious re: closing, right? Giant biomedical charity that has been watching the pandemic with keen interest, yes
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Mar 13, 2020 16:19
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Perspective from the City: https://twitter.com/stephenburanyi/status/1238429201830678528?s=21
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Mar 13, 2020 16:19
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Ash Crimson posted:Getting this strange urge to go around care homes and cough in the faces of the elderly, how can I supress these urges Make this chat probatable please
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Mar 13, 2020 16:23
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Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:
has anyone seen any indication they're doing anything like this? or at the very least buying or making ICU beds/ventilators?
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Mar 13, 2020 16:27
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Communist Thoughts posted:has anyone seen any indication they're doing anything like this? or at the very least buying or making ICU beds/ventilators? None, because they aren't. You can't sell off the NHS if it's seen to be working. Oh, sorry, Rishi Sunak said they would in the budget. They just haven't yet.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:30
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oxford_town posted:Sorry. Here is some actual good news: remdesivir looks like it might be a promising treatment for COVID-19 although data is still limited. Thanks for that, I saw a similar article a few days ago but somehow lost it.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:31
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We've all got this already lol its just wildly variable in symptoms
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Mar 13, 2020 16:32
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oxford_town posted:I am a British-trained medical practitioner so obviously I have a vested interest here. This in particular was genuinely super weird to me, like I get there's zero medical benefit but growing up in eastern europe all the women I know did have those exams regularly. In my mid 20s I was going out with this woman my age who's never had sex before and she was like "I've literally not had anyone touch me or look there since I was 3" and it was just so weird to me. Even men have their junk checked out a few times when growing up, if more for assurance than anything else. TBF she was from a somewhat more conservative country than Britain so maybe there is some sort of one-time adolescent examination. Or maybe not. Either way it was seriously surprising to me.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:33
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Enjoy the hometime Jermoud. Any tips for the rest of us? My uni is still silent on whether staff should work from home. Line managers are already turning a blind eye to those electing to telecommute tho.
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https://twitter.com/Fujyno/status/1238155063283142656
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Darth Walrus posted:Perspective from the City: Plus ca change.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:42
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I 100% believe that staff in for example universites should just not go in. If everyone just refuses en masse what are they going to do, discipline everybody? I'm sure there's a word for this kind of strategy.
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Jedit posted:None, because they aren't. You can't sell off the NHS if it's seen to be working. lol too late but better than i expected
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ThomasPaine posted:I 100% believe that staff in for example universites should just not go in. If everyone just refuses en masse what are they going to do, discipline everybody? I'm sure there's a word for this kind of strategy. maybe not in unis but a lot of employers are probably itching for an excuse to fire a huge amount of staff right now tbh though i do agree with you
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Mar 13, 2020 16:45
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Mar 13, 2020 16:46
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StarkingBarfish posted:Enjoy the hometime Jermoud. Any tips for the rest of us? My uni is still silent on whether staff should work from home. Line managers are already turning a blind eye to those electing to telecommute tho. Here's what I spent the last week or two doing: * getting lots of cereal, toiletries, canned meat, canned fish, canned fruit, chopping up fresh veg and freezing it. luckily we already had a huge stockpile of canned beans, canned veg and pasta and rice, thank you brexit! got some bottled water too. that's probably overkill, but if a pipe bursts, they might not fix it as quick as they normally would, so why not have some bottled water just in case * got my catfood stockpile. don't forget your pets! * i got a pulse oxymeter from Argos (yes they sell them, for £20). if either me or my wife develop flu like symptoms we can keep an eye on our blood oxygen saturation. Not sure how helpful this'll be but if i call 999 and say "mine's 93%" they'll certainly send an ambulance (if any are left), though it's likely i'll be calling them before that * i downloaded as many movies as I can. just in case the internet is going to be crippled with over-use, lol. That's my "hunker down" strategy. I give it a doomsday prepper score of 6/10. Didn't get any guns.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:49
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Delay will be for one year, which is kind of a relief - it means Labour will have a chance to get its poo poo together first.
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Mar 13, 2020 16:49
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Imagine if this outbreak had happened last year. Or 2016.
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Strom Cuzewon posted:Gonna be skyping in after all, thanks anyway dude. I just wanted to say Good Luck!
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