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Amnistar posted:What did we lie about? Why should I believe you are confirmed town? What beyond some unproven and potentially cooked up claim between you and Hum do I have to reinforce that? And why are you leaving on your “confirmed town” position so heavily in your arguments?
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I also love the idea of hum and I thinking "We should lie and get ruggan cuddled." Only to figure out after we had started the plan that ruggan would flip town!
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Mar 14, 2020 03:58
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Ruggan posted:Actually I think that after rereading the thread earlier and piecing together info, Steak is town. do you wanna elaborate or just leave this here
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Mar 14, 2020 03:58
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Ruggan posted:Why should I believe you are confirmed town? What beyond some unproven and potentially cooked up claim between you and Hum do I have to reinforce that? And why are you leaving on your “confirmed town” position so heavily in your arguments? Amnistar posted:Either we're confirmed town masons or we're both scum. Hum and I know we're confirmed town. I've been laying the bread crumbs for it for some time, and we claimed it without any pressure. None of my arguments about people's alignments are based on me being confirmed town. your argument appears to be entirely based on the fact that we must be lying about claiming confirmed town. You sound like Solus(Scum) did in DBQ when ICR/Dragon confirmed masons was announced.
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Mar 14, 2020 03:59
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Ruggan posted:And your “oh I was wrong” schtick pretty much matches how you were in DQB2. In that game I did not know who scum was and was playing as town....so....I don't think that post supports your point the way you thinks it does.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:00
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Amnistar posted:I also love the idea of hum and I thinking "We should lie and get ruggan cuddled." Only to figure out after we had started the plan that ruggan would flip town! Unimpressive counter. Doesn’t convince me anything about your alignment imo. You’d say this if it were bad idea in hindsight too.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:02
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Ixtlilton posted:Hello friends I ate the cinnamon and it let me use another cop that told me dmboogie is death God aligned. I don't fully trust my results since I feel like I easily could've been misdirected or something but looks like our ded boi wasn't lying about two scum teams. this aint right boss I’m occupied atm but I’m town aligned
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Mar 14, 2020 04:02
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Amnistar posted:In that game I did not know who scum was and was playing as town....so....I don't think that post supports your point the way you thinks it does. Haha good call. Guess that’s true. But you were still a bad party trying to get out of a sticky situation so it still applies somewhat.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:03
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in response to hum admitting he lied ##unvote
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Mar 14, 2020 04:03
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Ruggan posted:Unimpressive counter. Doesn’t convince me anything about your alignment imo. You’d say this if it were bad idea in hindsight too. wasn't a counter. Legitimately laughing at this thought. I am, however, confused right now. Prior to Hum coming clean, your stance was "Yea, hum is joking, steak is scum for killing hunt". As soon as hum says "it was a gambit" your stance flips and now "steak is town and hum and I are actually scum". How does hum confirming your statement that it was false suddently change your mind so much?
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Mar 14, 2020 04:04
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It doesn’t. I was waiting to see how Hum decided to proceed before responding with what I really thought
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Mar 14, 2020 04:05
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Amnistar posted:I also love the idea of hum and I thinking "We should lie and get ruggan cuddled." Only to figure out after we had started the plan that ruggan would flip town! 2 scum teams.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:06
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Ruggan posted:It doesn’t. I was waiting to see how Hum decided to proceed before responding with what I really thought LOL So our concern about your reaction being manufactured in response to our gambit, is, in fact, TRUE. And yet that makes us scum. God drat Hum is a genius at this game.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:07
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Ive been wavering on Steak but my current stance is town and that came from a reread I did just an hour or two ago. I think Steak shooting Hum early was a mistake and poor judgement but not necessarily indicative of scum alignment.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:07
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Mr. Steak posted:2 scum teams. Said by self-claimed scum. I disbelieve this to be true until I see evidence of it. I am following the 1 scum team 1 SK flavor of a large game.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:07
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Ruggan posted:Ive been wavering on Steak but my current stance is town and that came from a reread I did just an hour or two ago. I think Steak shooting Hum early was a mistake and poor judgement but not necessarily indicative of scum alignment. Ruggan posted:It’s steak isn’t it. Steak is totally scum. Yeeeaaaapp....
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Mar 14, 2020 04:08
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Amnistar posted:Yeeeaaaapp.... Yup, the reread was between those two posts that you conveniently quoted out of order
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Mar 14, 2020 04:11
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Amnistar posted:Said by self-claimed scum. I disbelieve this to be true until I see evidence of it. I am following the 1 scum team 1 SK flavor of a large game. ixt got a result of "death god aligned" a serial killer would probably say "self aligned" or "third party aligned" like in the alignment part of binus's flip
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Mar 14, 2020 04:11
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Ruggan feverishly rereading the thread every 10 minutes, rapidly changing his opinions
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Mar 14, 2020 04:13
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Mr. Humalong posted:Ruggan feverishly rereading the thread every 10 minutes, rapidly changing his opinions 
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Mar 14, 2020 04:14
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Ruggan posted:Why should I believe you are confirmed town? I feel like the easiest way would be to think about how you'd read them without the masonry claim in the first place. From the first two days, I feel like both Amni and Hum were generally leaning Town in my mind (I sure said as much about Hum yesterday at least), so I personally have no issues believing it for now. If it ends up being a gambit, it'll make itself known pretty quickly anyway. So I suppose if you have a scum read on either of them that doesn't involve the mason claim, it'd be a good time to explain what it is other than this constant "but what if it's a gambit!" thing. Quickly checking your posts, you've posted 0 things about Hum at all and lightly said Amni pinged you as scum all of once before today. Kinda makes me think that you don't really have one though.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:14
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Mr. Steak posted:ixt got a result of "death god aligned" idk about this
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Mar 14, 2020 04:15
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i dont like how messy everything is today. but this bullshit is making me less inclined to vote ruggan out. and yeah, i see you theorizing that i'm scum with him, but i dont care. you and hum are both being assholes
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Mar 14, 2020 04:16
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Christ, y'all posting fast. I'm trying to juggle this and getting ready for a D&D game where half the players are late/not responding, so I'm a bit behind apparently.Mr. Steak posted:ixt got a result of "death god aligned" Ixt also got a Trickster God aligned for Mona, but Mona ended up being flipless. Trickster sounds like an actual scum-team, whereas Death God definitely sounds 3p.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:16
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Dragonatrix posted:Christ, y'all posting fast. I'm trying to juggle this and getting ready for a D&D game where half the players are late/not responding, so I'm a bit behind apparently. really? to me, if anything it sounds opposite of that
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Mar 14, 2020 04:18
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Mr. Steak posted:i dont like how messy everything is today. but this bullshit is making me less inclined to vote ruggan out. and yeah, i see you theorizing that i'm scum with him, but i dont care. you and hum are both being assholes Please tell me where I have crossed the line from making a case that Ruggan is lying as scum playing a game, and where I'm being an rear end in a top hat so I can apologize for it. Because that is an important distinction to me to make sure the game is fun for everyone.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:18
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Mr. Steak posted:i dont like how messy everything is today. but this bullshit is making me less inclined to vote ruggan out. and yeah, i see you theorizing that i'm scum with him, but i dont care. you and hum are both being assholes oh boy
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Mar 14, 2020 04:19
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Nah you aren't being assholes. But my gut is telling me you're both scum.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:22
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Amnistar posted:Please tell me where I have crossed the line from making a case that Ruggan is lying as scum playing a game, and where I'm being an rear end in a top hat so I can apologize for it. if hum's lie was actually true, i'd buy this as acceptably cocky town behavior. but ruggan is not confirmed scum, and you're treating him like one. even i am actively not having fun reading your posts and no im not aligned with ruggan
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Mar 14, 2020 04:22
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Mr. Steak posted:if hum's lie was actually true, i'd buy this as acceptably cocky town behavior. but ruggan is not confirmed scum, and you're treating him like one. even i am actively not having fun reading your posts and no im not aligned with ruggan If I'm making the game not fun, then I'll stop posting for awhile. Sorry.
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Mar 14, 2020 04:25
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Mr. Steak posted:no im not aligned with ruggan how do you know you're not both town :O
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Mar 14, 2020 04:27
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Maybe this is a good time to ##World Egg Ruggan
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Mar 14, 2020 04:27
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Nep-Nep posted:how do you know you're not both town :O 
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Mar 14, 2020 04:28
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Nep-Nep posted:how do you know you're not both town :O true lol
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Mar 14, 2020 04:28
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Amnistar posted:If I'm making the game not fun, then I'll stop posting for awhile. Sorry. it could just be a me thing. dont stop posting on my account
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Mar 14, 2020 04:30
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Mr. Steak posted:it could just be a me thing. dont stop posting on my account personally im alarmed that amni is posting on steak’s account i have no idea how to parse hum’s everything, I was scumreading ruggan yesterday but the mason thing is like blatantly stupid???
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Mar 14, 2020 05:11
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The biggest issue I take with their collective claim is amni's pgo aspect that somehow only kills people who use killing actions, which was breadcrumbed and then fullclaimed, which is not something that makes sense to do if you're town hoping scum hits the landmine that is you
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Mar 14, 2020 05:15
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well. I read it and I don't understand it. Amni, feeling better after last night? Goodnight everybody.
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Mar 14, 2020 05:36
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Nep-Nep posted:The biggest issue I take with their collective claim is amni's pgo aspect that somehow only kills people who use killing actions, which was breadcrumbed and then fullclaimed, which is not something that makes sense to do if you're town hoping scum hits the landmine that is you Yeah I thought that was a different role - bomb.
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Nep-Nep posted:The biggest issue I take with their collective claim is amni's pgo aspect that somehow only kills people who use killing actions, which was breadcrumbed and then fullclaimed, which is not something that makes sense to do if you're town hoping scum hits the landmine that is you yeah, whats throwing me for a loop is how overpowered they are. confirmed masons, which by definition are essentially immune from execution, who are also both immune to night kills? even if it's only 1 shot bp and a self-bodyguard effect that kills him as well as the attacker, that's still a pair of townies that REQUIRES scum to give up 1 kill and 1 teammate even if they play perfectly. im well aware there could be downsides they arent sharing, but im not convinced at all. confirmed masonries are a really powerful role already, and i've only ever seen variants nerfed before, not buffed. and especially not way over-the-top stacked like these two are claiming. plus, it's awfully convenient that they revealed the pgo only activates on kills *after* xiw claimed to visit it
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