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Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Biden is less likely to appoint alcoholic rape monsters to the Supreme Court.

ASIDE FROM THE ONE HE ALREADY HELPED TO APPOINT, YOU MEAN.

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Sazabi
Feb 15, 2014

A-MA-ZON!!

Screaming Idiot posted:

And give them the ability to say "And people came out in DROVES to vote for the Democratic party!!!!" when, no, the Democratic party is every bit as rotten and corrupt as the Republican party, they just pander to the people the Republicans poo poo on and have, like, five or six people who are slightly less reprehensible than everyone else.

Like, Bernie's pretty good, but he's still a liberal, he's still a politician, he's still another cog in a machine purpose-built to grind us all into the lubricating oil the oligarchs use to aid in spite-loving our society.


Voting for the "lesser evil" encourages them to make absolutely no changes because they can get away with being useless and inept. Biden is every bit as corrupt and inept as Trump, every bit as brain-dead, every bit as beholden to the oligarchs. The only thing he has above Trump is that he is slightly better at maintaining a thin veneer of :decorum:, so of course the liberals are jerking themselves off into a furor about him. If we refuse to vote for them, that might send a message that, no, we don't want a "return to sanity" whatever the gently caress that means, we want some real, honest-to-loving-god change.

Alright you vote however you think is best.

Doc Hawkins
Jun 15, 2010

Dashing? But I'm not even moving!


Absurd Alhazred posted:

Biden is less likely to appoint alcoholic rape monsters to the Supreme Court.

he's fought for their confirmation, what's changed since then?

Captain Hygiene
Sep 17, 2007

You mess with the crabbo...



Absurd Alhazred posted:

Biden is less likely to appoint alcoholic rape monsters to the Supreme Court.

Stuff like that is always a secondary point when I see folks buying in to the whole "DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS TRUMP THEREFORE I'LL JUST TACITLY SUPPORT TRUMP" bullshit.

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Biden is less likely to appoint alcoholic rape monsters to the Supreme Court.

Is he, though

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Screaming Idiot posted:

ASIDE FROM THE ONE HE ALREADY HELPED TO APPOINT, YOU MEAN.

Doc Hawkins posted:

he's fought for their confirmation, what's changed since then?

Byzantine posted:

Is he, though

Thomas was 30 years ago, put forward by a Republican. But sure, there's another Thomas Kavanaugh the Third waiting in the wings, that's definitely who a Democratic President is going to put forward. :rolleyes:

Why don't you take your :matters: poo poo to C-SPAM or wherever that's popular and wallow in your misery there?

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Captain Hygiene posted:

Stuff like that is always a secondary point when I see folks buying in to the whole "DEMOCRATIC NOMINEE IS EXACTLY THE SAME AS TRUMP THEREFORE I'LL JUST TACITLY SUPPORT TRUMP" bullshit.

It's not supporting Trump to refuse to vote for Biden. And again, if Biden is elected over Trump, who wins? He supports the same policies (but in nicer language!), he voted against desegregation, he lies constantly, he has zero meaningful plans to serve the people, and he's every bit as mush-minded as the rear end in a top hat we have now.

What do we gain if Biden wins? We get the blue team in power. No changes are made, the Republicans get to jump and scream at their base about the "INSANE MARXIST IN POWER!!!" while sweetheart deals are made in the dark, and when Biden invariably fucks things up the next gibbering dipshit the Republicans pull out of their sewage vat gets to say, "We let the Democrats win, and what good did they do? Vote for me! I'll definitely change things!"

So no, I'm not "voting blue no matter who" because the bullshit concept of "the lesser evil" does zero good to anyone except the oligarchs pushing the most centrist, milquetoast, neoliberal warmonger scum they can dredge up from their cursed tombs.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Thomas was 30 years ago, put forward by a Republican. But sure, there's another Thomas Kavanaugh the Third waiting in the wings, that's definitely who a Democratic President is going to put forward. :rolleyes:

Why don't you take your :matters: poo poo to C-SPAM or wherever that's popular and wallow in your misery there?

gently caress you, this poo poo does matter, which is why we don't want to vote for a man who told a victim of sexual molestation her accusations were illegitimate and then went to push the perpetrator into the supreme court. Kavanagh is almost certainly a rapist, but Biden has shown that he will back any pony as long as the rider pays their dues.

EDIT: Your avatar is absolutely on-point.

EDIT 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: Biden himself was also accused of multiple counts of molestation and can't seem to keep his hands to himself even when on camera.

Screaming Idiot has a new favorite as of 06:41 on Mar 14, 2020

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos
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Samovar
Jun 4, 2011

I'm 😤 not a 🦸🏻‍♂️hero...🧜🏻




Most people I know watch Netflix in order to train in other languages.

Elviscat
Jan 1, 2008

Well don't you know I'm caught in a trap?

Screaming Idiot posted:

gently caress you, this poo poo does matter, which is why we don't want to vote for a man who told a victim of sexual molestation her accusations were illegitimate and then went to push the perpetrator into the supreme court. Kavanagh is almost certainly a rapist, but Biden has shown that he will back any pony as long as the rider pays their dues.

EDIT: Your avatar is absolutely on-point.

EDIT 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: Biden himself was also accused of multiple counts of molestation and can't seem to keep his hands to himself even when on camera.

Ok, don't vote and let's keep the dude who'll veto every bill supporting the rights of Trans people, POC, acting against climate change, enacting universal healthcare, etc. if we win back the senate, instead of the other idiot who won't.

Go gently caress off and hang out with your buddies Trey Parker and Matt Stone and smoke some jokes and lol about turd sandwich vs giant douches you screaming loving idiot.

Btw, the dems aren't going to reform because some dipshit didn't vote, they're going to reform if people continue to vote in AOC et al.

freemandela
Apr 18, 2007

Elviscat posted:

Ok, don't vote and let's keep the dude who'll veto every bill supporting the rights of Trans people, POC, acting against climate change, enacting universal healthcare, etc. if we win back the senate, instead of the other idiot who won't.

Go gently caress off and hang out with your buddies Trey Parker and Matt Stone and smoke some jokes and lol about turd sandwich vs giant douches you screaming loving idiot.

Btw, the dems aren't going to reform because some dipshit didn't vote, they're going to reform if people continue to vote in AOC et al.

Under Trump, there will continue to be concentration camps in the US.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Thomas was 30 years ago, put forward by a Republican. But sure, there's another Thomas Kavanaugh the Third waiting in the wings, that's definitely who a Democratic President is going to put forward. :rolleyes:

Why don't you take your :matters: poo poo to C-SPAM or wherever that's popular and wallow in your misery there?

wow you really think joe biden isn't a complete nihilist who would see every queer person, poor person, and black person liquidated for insurance companies to gt another cent after decades of being to the right of Reagan (when he's coherent enough to have a recognizable internal thought process)

Elviscat posted:

Ok, don't vote and let's keep the dude who'll veto every bill supporting the rights of Trans people, POC, acting against climate change, enacting universal healthcare, etc. if we win back the senate, instead of the other idiot who won't.

Go gently caress off and hang out with your buddies Trey Parker and Matt Stone and smoke some jokes and lol about turd sandwich vs giant douches you screaming loving idiot.

Btw, the dems aren't going to reform because some dipshit didn't vote, they're going to reform if people continue to vote in AOC et al.

I, too, am a credulous moron with no understanding of the last 40+ years of politics

freemandela posted:

Under Trump, there will continue to be concentration camps in the US.

Those camps started when Biden was VP

Anora
Feb 16, 2014

I fuckin suck!🪠

I'll vote to get Trump out of office full force, but jesus Christ, Biden may not make it to the election. That is scary that that is who the Dem party is pushing, he is basically gone.

And what is up with his eye after the cut?

relax-o-vision
Feb 21, 2007

Screaming Idiot posted:

gently caress you, this poo poo does matter, which is why we don't want to vote for a man who told a victim of sexual molestation her accusations were illegitimate and then went to push the perpetrator into the supreme court. Kavanagh is almost certainly a rapist, but Biden has shown that he will back any pony as long as the rider pays their dues.

EDIT: Your avatar is absolutely on-point.

EDIT 2 ELECTRIC BOOGALOO: Biden himself was also accused of multiple counts of molestation and can't seem to keep his hands to himself even when on camera.

It's a good thing you're white. You can afford to sit this one out. Nobody you know is in a concentration camp, why should you give a poo poo?

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

relax-o-vision posted:

It's a good thing you're white. You can afford to sit this one out. Nobody you know is in a concentration camp, why should you give a poo poo?

So vote for the VP who opened the camps? The party that keeps funding them with billions of dollars?

relax-o-vision
Feb 21, 2007

T-man posted:

So vote for the VP who opened the camps? The party that keeps funding them with billions of dollars?

Yes. Yes you do, you loving baby. Those people's lives are more important than your hurt feelings.

Heliotrope
Aug 17, 2007

You're fucking subhuman

relax-o-vision posted:

It's a good thing you're white. You can afford to sit this one out. Nobody you know is in a concentration camp, why should you give a poo poo?

I'm not white and I only blame the Democrats for people refusing to vote for Biden. They don't care if Trump wins, they fear Bernie winning. So they're trying to kneecap him so that Biden can loose to Trump and nothing changes for them.

augias
Apr 7, 2009

I think the point is a biden presidency will do jack poo poo for detained immigrants and minority citizens. Im only half convinced this is true but maybe a few more years in the us ill understand just how deeply stupid this country is. Cant wait!

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

relax-o-vision posted:

It's a good thing you're white. You can afford to sit this one out. Nobody you know is in a concentration camp, why should you give a poo poo?

You do know that Biden's one of the dudes who signed off on them in the first place, right? Trump's a shithead, but he wasn't lying when he said the project started under Obama. Biden will continue the process, but at a slower rate so liberals won't feel so bad about it. And they'll use gentle language to justify it. "They're refugee settlements, we can't just let them wander the streets homeless, we're providing them food, shelter, and medical care! Our concentration camps are humanitarian!" and CNN, MSNBC, and every other channel but Fox News will lap it up and jerk themselves off into a furor about how kind and compassionate the concentration camps are. Fox, on the other hand, will start screaming about how THOSE GODDAMN MEXICANS ARE LIVING IT UP INSIDE ARE CAMPS!!! and demand they be shut down.

relax-o-vision posted:

Yes. Yes you do, you loving baby. Those people's lives are more important than your hurt feelings.

Like, again, those camps started under Biden and Obama's supervision. Trump didn't create them, he just made full use of them.

Elviscat posted:

Ok, don't vote and let's keep the dude who'll veto every bill supporting the rights of Trans people, POC, acting against climate change, enacting universal healthcare, etc. if we win back the senate, instead of the other idiot who won't.

Go gently caress off and hang out with your buddies Trey Parker and Matt Stone and smoke some jokes and lol about turd sandwich vs giant douches you screaming loving idiot.

Btw, the dems aren't going to reform because some dipshit didn't vote, they're going to reform if people continue to vote in AOC et al.

Yo, Biden will do that exact same poo poo. He straight-up said he would veto Medicare for All if it crossed his desk. He supported segregation. He slandered a woman of color and helped to get her abuser on the supreme court. Biden is exactly the same as Trump. Hell, he's worse in some ways, because at least Trump drums up enough outrage that people act against him, while Biden knows how to slip enough under the radar that he can pass heinous poo poo like the concentration camps undetected.

T-man
Aug 22, 2010


Talk shit, get bzzzt.

relax-o-vision posted:

Yes. Yes you do, you loving baby. Those people's lives are more important than your hurt feelings.

Its not hurt feelings, it's actual consideration of the politician we are being asked to endorse. If I do not believe Biden will close the camps (how's Guantanimo after 8 years?). As much as you want to cling to the notion that you can vote your way out of this, there is no going back to pre-Trump, and no use going to a status quo of only slightly less obvious mass detainment in overcrowded prisons. (How'd Joe vote on the crime bill that caused (much) of it?)

Let me make this very clear: I will never vote for Joe Biden. If he came to my city and ran for dog catcher, I would write in my own name instead. There is a massive amount of us in CSPAM (NOJOE means we've toxxed on this) and more outside these gay forums. I'm either gonna vote for Bernie in the general, or possibly for the PSL. The democratic party has done everything it can to be antidemocratic, to tell young trans women like myself that our political concerns don't matter, that our lives are not worth more to them than insurance company contributions, that everyone my age is spoiled or lazy or stupid.

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.
I would vote T-man for dogcatcher.

you broke my grill
Jul 11, 2019

Mak0rz posted:

Anyone have that meltdown that was posted on (I think) gameFAQs when the 360 port of FF13 was announced?

Square never recovered from this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k-uTnqYHZ-I

Byzantine
Sep 1, 2007

Elviscat posted:

Ok, don't vote and let's keep the dude who'll veto every bill supporting the rights of Trans people, POC, acting against climate change, enacting universal healthcare, etc. if we win back the senate, instead of the other idiot who won't.

lol

relax-o-vision
Feb 21, 2007

Screaming Idiot posted:

Yo, Biden will do that exact same poo poo. He straight-up said he would veto Medicare for All if it crossed his desk. He supported segregation. He slandered a woman of color and helped to get her abuser on the supreme court. Biden is exactly the same as Trump. Hell, he's worse in some ways, because at least Trump drums up enough outrage that people act against him, while Biden knows how to slip enough under the radar that he can pass heinous poo poo like the concentration camps undetected.

You don't care about segregation. You don't care about Clarence Thomas. The only thing you care about is giving yourself an excuse not to participate. That's the only principle you actually hold. There's something deeply comforting about nihilism. You can just pull it around yourself like a nice warm blanket, and watch the rest of us struggle onward without you.

You'll be fine under Trump. Other people will suffer, but you won't. You know nothing really matters. Go ahead and sit this one out.

MizPiz
May 29, 2013

by Athanatos
https://twitter.com/shoe0nhead/status/1238720984280170496?s=19

Memento
Aug 25, 2009


Bleak Gremlin

Someone see if the stitches on his sweater spell out anything in morse code

The Saddest Rhino
Apr 29, 2009

Put it all together.
Solve the world.
One conversation at a time.



Lowtax said he won't vote either if Biden won the dnc

Screaming Idiot
Nov 26, 2007

JUST POSTING WHILE JERKIN' MY GHERKIN SITTIN' IN A PERKINS!

BEATS SELLING MERKINS.

relax-o-vision posted:

You don't care about segregation. You don't care about Clarence Thomas. The only thing you care about is giving yourself an excuse not to participate. That's the only principle you actually hold. There's something deeply comforting about nihilism. You can just pull it around yourself like a nice warm blanket, and watch the rest of us struggle onward without you.

You'll be fine under Trump. Other people will suffer, but you won't. You know nothing really matters. Go ahead and sit this one out.

I am currently suffering from a health problem that has put me out of work for weeks. I have thousands of dollars of medical debt that will keep me from ever getting any kind of financial assistance, and I can't afford the specialists and treatments that would allow me to go back to work.

So in short, gently caress you. I want a politician who will actually do something. Biden has no loving plans beyond "build more cages." It sounds to me like you're the one who doesn't care about segragation and Clarence Thomas since you're willing to vote for the rear end in a top hat who supported them.

Ugato
Apr 9, 2009

We're not?

Absurd Alhazred posted:

Thomas was 30 years ago, put forward by a Republican. But sure, there's another Thomas Kavanaugh the Third waiting in the wings, that's definitely who a Democratic President is going to put forward. :rolleyes:

Why don't you take your :matters: poo poo to C-SPAM or wherever that's popular and wallow in your misery there?

I legitimately didn’t think we could elect a president whose brain seemed more like tapioca than Trump, yet here we are watching Biden slowly melt while being the best chance to win the “gently caress it anyone but him again” vote.

Praising Biden is kind of a joke in any regard. Is he better than Trump? I’ll still say “probably” but I’m rapidly losing faith in even a shaky affirmation that ol’ Joe is gonna be better than Trump. He may end specific things people don’t like that happened under trump as a near certainty, but he has the very real potential to do new and exciting (old, familiar and awful) things to take their place.

Just because things will almost certainly be different doesn’t mean they will be better.

T-man posted:

So vote for the VP who opened the camps? The party that keeps funding them with billions of dollars?

This is an excellent example of poo poo people need to remember when going through this mental exercise of comparing Biden and Trump.

To be clear, the “anyone but trump” part is going to bring change that most people will probably find relieving no matter what it is. But you absolutely need to look at the record of the person to determine if things like lgbt favorable legislation are to get pushed through. Biden’s election would be a resounding victory for centrists and performative compromisers. To think that’s a great climate for getting legislation pushed through on topics that a depressing amount of people still think are very indecorous is... optimistic.

Ugato has a new favorite as of 10:47 on Mar 14, 2020

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

relax-o-vision posted:

You don't care about segregation. You don't care about Clarence Thomas. The only thing you care about is giving yourself an excuse not to participate. That's the only principle you actually hold. There's something deeply comforting about nihilism. You can just pull it around yourself like a nice warm blanket, and watch the rest of us struggle onward without you.

You'll be fine under Trump. Other people will suffer, but you won't. You know nothing really matters. Go ahead and sit this one out.

Can we make this the mouseover text for CSPAM?

E:Awww, subforums dont get mouseover text.

Boywhiz88
Sep 11, 2005

floating 26" off da ground. BURR!

relax-o-vision posted:

You don't care about segregation. You don't care about Clarence Thomas. The only thing you care about is giving yourself an excuse not to participate. That's the only principle you actually hold. There's something deeply comforting about nihilism. You can just pull it around yourself like a nice warm blanket, and watch the rest of us struggle onward without you.

You'll be fine under Trump. Other people will suffer, but you won't. You know nothing really matters. Go ahead and sit this one out.

You dense motherfucker: people suffered a ton under Obama which is how we got Trump.

A lot of us are not going to vote for a guy that was 2nd in an administration that helped the Yemeni civil war kick off, didn’t take a stand in Congress for gay marriage, and didn’t arrest a single banker post-2008. Oh yeah, let’s not forget Obama was known as the “deporter in Chief” because he was low key loving up the lives of immigrants. He just knew better than to make it so obvious.

goblin week
Jan 26, 2019

Absolute clown.

T-man posted:

So vote for the VP who opened the camps?

oh yeah because the VP has any power

Splicer
Oct 16, 2006

from hell's heart I cast at thee
🧙🐀🧹🌙🪄🐸

Screaming Idiot posted:

Biden is no better than Trump. If he gets the spot over Bernie then I'm not even going to vote.
In all seriousness anyone in the "not even gonna vote" camp, go vote third party.

HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Splicer posted:

In all seriousness anyone in the "not even gonna vote" camp, go vote third party.

Why

Do you not understand the mathematics behind first past the post?

The Merkinman
Apr 22, 2007

I sell only quality merkins. What is a merkin you ask? Why, it's a wig for your genitals!
Did you know that if there are more people that don't vote compared to the ones that did, that none of the candidates become President?

Oh, that's not how it works?

The Ferret King
Nov 23, 2003

cluck cluck
Hopefully another Trump victory will shake up the DNC so badly that they'll be forced to make good decisions going forward.

If not, maybe the vacuum left by their inevitable collapse will get filled with something better.

Vib Rib
Jul 23, 2007

God damn this shit is
fuckin' re-dic-a-liss

🍖🍖😛🍖🍖

The Ferret King posted:

Hopefully another Trump victory will shake up the DNC so badly that they'll be forced to make good decisions going forward.
Yeah it totally didn't do anything last time, and they're repeating the exact same corrupt fuckup failures that lost the general in 2016, but this time they'll definitely learn their lesson, watch

Veib
Dec 10, 2007


The Ferret King posted:

Hopefully another Trump victory will shake up the DNC so badly that they'll be forced to make good decisions going forward.

https://twitter.com/randygdub/status/796229362643152896

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HiroProtagonist
May 7, 2007

Vib Rib posted:

Yeah it totally didn't do anything last time, and they're repeating the exact same corrupt fuckup failures that lost the general in 2016, but this time they'll definitely learn their lesson, watch

This, really. I'm so loving sick of the lazy opinion that the DNC's character as an organization will just suddenly change like it was a physical person and not, y'know, a bunch of people just as ugly and in bed with corporations as Trump or anyone else in the GOP for that matter, the only difference between them and the GOP being that the person tut-tutting you over it happens to APPROVE of the corporations backing the DNC's leadership.

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