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axelblaze
Oct 18, 2006

Congratulations The One Concern!!!

You're addicted to Ivory!!

and...oh my...could you please...
oh my...

Grimey Drawer

Bottom Liner posted:

Parasite is his most subtle movie yet and arguably why it’s so great but if you see the rich as anything other than vile you’re missing the point because it’s pretty explicit. The whole point is that they seem naive and generous but they’re gross and dehumanize those below them. They are the benefactors (and parasites) of the systems but also go beyond that and treat their servants like property.

They treat their servants like you'd expect any employer to treat their employee. It's dehumanizing but also well within social norms and honesly they treat their employees far better than what would be considered acepatable. Like I don't think there's much that the rich family does that, let's say, if your friend did that you would even call them out on it

You seem very focused on telling people that have a different take on the movie that if they don't have yours they are missing the point, even if that view doesn't even contradict what you're even saying.

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Izzhov
Dec 6, 2013

My head hurts.

axelblaze posted:

It's dehumanizing but also well within social norms

Yes, exactly! How I saw it was the movie was saying it's the social norms themselves that are the main problem here.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna

axelblaze posted:



You seem very focused on telling people that have a different take on the movie that if they don't have yours they are missing the point, even if that view doesn't even contradict what you're even saying.

That’s my whole point though. You can’t see the system as bad and the rich people that represent it as “generally good”. They are the system. Capatalism is bad but the rich are good is a fundamentally flawed take.

And no, literally turning your nose up at the working class is not or should not be a social norm. If I saw some rich rear end in a top hat doing that I’d want to stab him too. That’s the whole arc of Mr. Kim in the third act.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 19:51 on Feb 12, 2020

fancy stats
Sep 9, 2009

A man's man, wears a lot of denim, tells long stories and has oatmeal saved from this morning.

TommyGun85 posted:

my argument is that they are not bad people, they are good (but flawed) people and agree with the rest of your argument that they are given the ability to be ignorant of the fact by a society that will never press them on it.

Please give me examples of them being inherently 'bad'. Being insensitive or misunderstanding people based on social class doesnt make you a bad person.

Both groups are extremely flawed in ways that reflect their social classes, but they are both good just trying to do what they believe is right. The point is that the rich dont have to resort to the levels that the poor do.

Anyways, Im over it. Maybe it did 'go over my head'.

Inherently bad is odd phrasing, but here are things I would consider to be actions of bad people:


- They're neglectful of their children (Da-song is expressly acting out because he's not given enough attention, Da-hye is a looser case, but I buy into the analysis in the movie thread that she's falling in love with her tutors simply because they're giving her attention)
- They're very quick to fire long-time/capable employees without giving them much of an ability to defend themselves (I find it hard to believe that Moon-gwang could not come up with documentation proving that she didn't have fuckin' tuberculosis)
- As I had previously mentioned, Dong-ik's total lack of willingness to acknowledge Ki-taek's humanity. He mentions that he's close to firing him for the crime of trying to relate to his personal struggles. He also forces Ki-taek to take part in the Cowboys vs Indians game, its not what I'd consider standard driver responsibilities, but he basically strong-arms him into doing it


You could argue that these are actions of people who are insensitive based on their class, but I don't think that absolves you of the fact that they're lovely actions. On the other hand, outside of being polite and genial, I'm not sure there's ever an instance of them acting like good people. Like what do you think the rich family are trying to do that they believe is right?

fancy stats fucked around with this message at 17:50 on Feb 13, 2020

Izzhov
Dec 6, 2013

My head hurts.

Bottom Liner posted:

That’s my whole point though. You can’t see the system as bad and the rich people that represent it as “generally good”. They are the system.
Everyone is the system. Actually, if there's one character in the movie who represents the system itself - or at least, the false idea of what the system is trying to sell itself as - it's probably Min-hyuk, the friend of Ki-woo's who gives him the initial job opportunity (and the metaphorical rock).

Bottom Liner posted:

And no, literally turning your nose up at the working class is not or should not be a social norm. If I saw some rich rear end in a top hat doing that I’d want to stab him too. That’s the whole arc of Mr. Kim in the third act.

At the very least, I think all of us can agree with "should not" - I think that's the point.

EDIT:

fancy stats posted:


- They're neglectful of their children (Da-song is expressly acting out because he's not given enough attention, Da-hye is a looser case, but I buy into the analysis in the movie thread that she's falling in love with her tutors simply because they're giving her attention)


This is a good point that I didn't consider. That's a really interesting contrast between the tight-knit Kim family (who are all working together on this scheme) and the much more disconnected Parks. Now that I think of it, the bizarre sex scene does a good job contributing to this sense of disconnectedness in the Park family.

Izzhov fucked around with this message at 20:07 on Feb 12, 2020

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
I reject the idea that the working class victims are part of the system. They are within it, but not of it. That’s an important distinction.

The sex scene is incredibly telling that the Parks are not naive to their plight. Being poor and dirty is a taboo they fetishize.

And I think this has been good discussion even if initial posts were flippant, mine included.

Bottom Liner fucked around with this message at 01:34 on Feb 13, 2020

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Yeah, nice discussion. I've sparred with Bottom Liner on a number of things but I am in total alignment here.





And I'd like to note that the ending is absolutely tragic imo. The son is 'turned'. He has been co-opted into the system of capitalist bribery, a point made by literally bludgeoning his brain with an empty signifying object of commodity fetishism. He is damaged goods, no longer curious and insightful and compassionate, but rather delusional and disconnected, laughing uncontrollably at the plight of those he once struggled beside. He will now center his life around the illusory goal of financial accumulation so that he may transcend his oppression within the system. But even if successful (ie. unlikely or impossible) he will only become the next generation of disconnected, bored, petty, materialistic bourgeois individualists living upstairs.





edit; I'd really like to hear what any Korean goons think of the symbolism of the underclasses in both North and South Korea represented in the film being ruled by illegitimate, corrupt, immoral regimes of varying stripes. I felt like Parasite was attempting to bridge the gap of a divided people (especially with regard to the poor) in a very clever and intricate way, and as a foreigner I feel like some of the subtleties are completely wasted on me.

BeanpolePeckerwood fucked around with this message at 01:33 on Feb 13, 2020

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Ready or Not is exactly what it looks like from the trailer. The main actress has a lot of charisma and the in laws are insufferable which carry this fun but predictable romp. 3/5.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
Mulan: Rise of a Warrior (6/10). This is the 2009 live action Chinese movie. I was expecting more on the action/war/politics front than following Mulan's personal struggles with both leading an army and dealing with having fallen in love with a fellow officer as they rise up the ranks. I also forgot the unwritten law of Wuxia films is that everybody dies and no one surviving is happy at the end. There feels like more than the usual amount of death for these films, purposefully ramping up to the most emotional one, the death of the childhood friend right in front of Mulan who can't do anything about it. And hell I'll spoil the ending too: duty and loyalty to the state wins out over true love. The movie is practically misery porn though very nicely acted.


Since I needed something to lighten the mood after Mulan I decided to re-watch Transformers: The Movie (8/10). I have never given a poo poo about Transformers, except when Beast Wars was on air, and the movie's plot is still whatever with cool set pieces, but I keep a DVD copy around for one reason only: that sweet rear end Toei animation. This movie is way better animated than it deserves and you owe to yourselves to watch it in the crispiest most HD way you can. Today on this re-watch I was noticing all the details drawn into metal being torn apart/destroyed in this movie and there is a lot of glorious destruction to behold. Plus I've always admired the animation on things like Galvatron crushing Starscream's crown under foot and Rot Rod and Kup coming in for landing on the Junk Planet in the weird, but imaginative, screw shaped spaceship. Does any one else talk about the high quality animation in this movie? Because if not it is severely underrated then.

And to hop from one animated thing to the next I finally gave Heavy Metal (4/10) a go. It's a collection of animated sci-fi scenarios extremely tenuously tied together by a glowing green ball personification of evil behind it all. A lot of it is either juvenile power fantasy type stuff or wacky scenario which apparently fits in with the magazine it's based on. And I keep using the word scenario a bunch because each segment feels so short and compressed that the story isn't given enough room to breathe before it's over and on to the next one. I'm apparently the only one who thinks the songs are underutilized in this movie as they too feel like they are used for a brief snippet here and there to make things awesomer. The animation is fine in this, though personally rotoscoping tends to take me out of a cartoon movie as I notice it too much. You could probably safely skip this movie and look for another short film compilation animated or otherwise. At least I can be a hipster douche and say I watched it on VHS though it probably wasn't worth the 99 cents I paid.

got any sevens
Feb 9, 2013

by Cyrano4747
I watched Heathers last night, real wild how it judt dumps you right into a weird scenario and never lets up the gas. I love when a film does that

TommyGun85
Jun 5, 2013

got any sevens posted:

I watched Heathers last night, real wild how it judt dumps you right into a weird scenario and never lets up the gas. I love when a film does that

which one? Didnt they remake it recently?

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

The Gentlemen: B. Entertaining and fairly stylish, with interesting performance by Hugh Grant. But Matthew McConaughey barely acted, the attempted rape felt unnecessary and manipulative, the ending was kind of boring, and the film felt lacking in substance. Hugh Grant was the most interesting character and I wasn’t happy with his resolution. The bestiality video was a strange and deeply misguided attempt at humor.

Weathering with You B+ I worry I probably am no longer the target audience for this movie. The Japanese teenagers that filled the theatre certainly seemed to enjoy it. A competent coming of age teen supernatural romance, but not an especially moving one. Beautiful Animation. Somewhat problematic moral. I increased the letter grade by a third for the animation quality.

Gretel & Hansel B- Interesting ideas and visuals, but ultimately this movie was limited by its extremely slow pacing. It’s bad for me to think, during a movie with a runtime of 1 hr 28m, that the movie feels too long.

The Lodge: B+ An excellent sort-of horror film. Highly atmospheric, very tense. All main parts well acted. Some people seem to think the mundane explanation that eventually accounts for the apparently supernatural events of the film was unfortunate, but it was an interesting trope subversion that the appearance of that explanation does not resolve any of the conflict.
On a kind of skevier note, if you’ve ever wondered if Alicia Silverstone is still attractive, the first ten minutes of the movie will answer that definitively.

Birds of Prey (and the Fantabulous Emancipation of One Harley Quinn): B Very solid comic book movie. Good performances by Margot Robbie, Mary Elizabeth Winstead, and Ewan McGregor. Definitely above average screenplay for a comic book movie. Extremely fun humor and action.

Ogmius815 fucked around with this message at 22:13 on Feb 18, 2020

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived

Ogmius815 posted:



The Lodge: B+ An excellent sort-of horror film. Highly atmospheric, very tense. All main parts well acted. Some people seem to think the mundane explanation that eventually accounts for the apparently supernatural events of the film was unfortunate, but it was an interesting trope subversion that the appearance of that explanation does not resolve any of the conflict.
On a kind of skevier note, if you’ve ever wondered if Alicia Silverstone is still attractive, the first ten minutes of the movie will answer that definitively.


The Lodge - 2.5/5 - Wants to be an Ari Aster movie so hard it might as well be called Schmeditary. One of those movies that gets dumber the longer you think about it after the fact. I liked the third act but this is 100% a watch on netflix movie.

gently caress THOSE KIDS, little pieces of poo poo

Zogo
Jul 29, 2003

Turbinosamente posted:

Does any one else talk about the high quality animation in this movie? Because if not it is severely underrated then.

Yeah, some regard it as the best animated movie of that decade.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off

Zogo posted:

Yeah, some regard it as the best animated movie of that decade.

I'm not sure I'd call it the best especially since Akira, Little Nemo, Urusei Yatsura 2: Beautiful Dreamer, and probably some poo poo I'm forgetting also came out in that decade but it is definitely in the top tier. Top three maybe? And usually all I hear about Transformers '86 is G1 fans still talking about how they had the balls to kill off Prime in the beginning and omg so sad! or whatever. It's easy to stay detached from it when you're not in the thick of fandom.

bitterandtwisted
Sep 4, 2006




Star Trek IV: A
Grade relative to the star trek franchise. Just a huge amount of fun and charm and a strong contender for best Trek movie.
Wizards: B
I had the ending spoilered long ago sadly, but this is still a fun, weird trip of a movie
Class of Nuke 'em High: C-
Some good gore effects. It was ok. Not on the same level as Toxic Avenger.
Surf Nazis Must Die: F
Boring. Nothing happens until the last 20 minutes. No gore effects to speak of. Did I watch a TV cut or something?

JBP
Feb 16, 2017

You've got to know, to understand,
Baby, take me by my hand,
I'll lead you to the promised land.
Train to Busan

3/5

I'm not sure why I didn't enjoy this more. It was a pretty good zombie movie. I really enjoyed the camera work and the zombie actors gave it 110%. It became a little bit gruelling towards the end and I felt like the final scene wasn't meant to go the way it did? Seemed contrary to what I thought the film's message was.

E: I'm gonna bump this up to a 4/5 zombie movie and maybe a 3.5/5 all comers movie. I did like it and as I think on it I like it a little more.

Mr Ice Cream Glove
Apr 22, 2007

The Player is maybe the best film about Hollywood I have seen. The 8 minute one take introduction is a masterpiece. 5/5

istewart
Apr 13, 2005

Still contemplating why I didn't register here under a clever pseudonym

Run Silent, Run Deep: 8.5/10

This must have been quite a big budget movie for 1958, and I can also see why it led them to pull in Robert Wise for Star Trek: The Motion Picture 20 years later. The miniatures effects are quite compelling, and the final battle with a Japanese destroyer is appropriately tense. Clark Gable, as the submarine commander, gives a more dynamic performance for the first half of the movie than Burt Lancaster as his XO passed over for command; but Lancaster's performance does start to open up as his character gains more agency later in the movie while Gable's character falters. It is, of course, a total sausage fest, and I kind of wonder if anything like this would get made today without more homefront scenes meant for a female lead. Mary LaRoche, playing Gable's character's wife, did stand out with what little she's given. There's a particularly hilarious reaction shot when Gable tells her to "add some gin to the lemonade" in advance of a tense conversation with Lancaster.

Overall, being a highly technical war movie about operating a submarine, I found it fascinating to contemplate how influential this film would prove to be on later technobabble-heavy sci-fi like Star Trek, especially since Wise helmed Trek's first big-budget outing. It also serves to highlight how much that genre fiction is tied to, and influenced by, the military-industrial complex. The heavy technical detail would probably make it a somewhat tedious watch with people who aren't already submarine or WWII buffs, though.

Turbinosamente
May 29, 2013

Lights on, Lights off
Welp it continues:

Red Lion (Akage) 7/10: There is a lot going on this film about a rebel foot soldier who borrows his commander's red lion mane wig that signifies high rank in order to impress his home town when he goes to tell them of the good news of the rebellion sweeping through Japan and the promise to end the Tokagawa Shogunate and halve everyone's taxes etc. While in town he winds up dealing with the money lenders and local magistrate over taxing every one and goes from being a fake hero with his borrowed rank to real hero and liberator of the village peasants. But it all goes to hell when his particular rebel troop is betrayed after having been told by leadership to spread those rumors of halving taxes in order. Even though this betrayal is an actual famous event in Japanese history it's not really necessary to know of the events leading up to the Meiji Restoration in order to enjoy the drama in this movie. Plus I saw the Animeigo subbed version, which beside having excellent subtitles means a quick google gets you the liner notes if you wish to read them. One final note, you know how you can tell sometimes you can tell a movie was a product of the era in which it was made? This movie feels way modern in tone to me, I had no idea it was made in 1969.

Conan the Barbarian 5/10: I appreciate the fact that this is nearly a silent movie with how little dialogue there is from everybody, not just Schwarzenegger, and how much it uses the great musical score to set the scene, and its crafted well and all, but I was rather bored for most of it. Unless you are really into the sword and sandals fantasy epic/power fantasy (and apparently I'm not) I'd steer clear. Also I've often heard the "Having your enemies driven before you..." line but never expected it to be delivered like that in the film.

Eye of the Dragon 0/10: For reference its this bargain basement kung fu movie, but it's not often you run into a movie that just falls short of the mark to be a good MST3k movie. I blame too many plot threads jumping in and out of slam cuts which make comprehending whats going on too difficult and if you can't do that you can't really riff on it well. Which is a shame because there is a couple of wtf things, but it ain't worth it.

Almost Human (1974) 9/10: This is the hard hitting and brutal Italian crime drama btw as there's a bunch of other movies and shows with the same title. And holy poo poo strap yourselves in as small time mobster Giulio with a psychopathic streak hatches a plan to kidnap a rich businessman's daughter for ransom. It's hard to look away as Giulio descends into brutality and murder to cover his tracks, keep his accomplices in line, and stay one step ahead of the cops. He's a madman, unpredictable and dangerous, and other characters are definitely afraid of him because of it. Now that I think of it the character is what people want The Joker to be, just with out the comic book trappings. You are then left with the angry psychopath lashing out against the society he feels wronged him as he tries to move up the ladder by obtaining wealth and status via any means necessary.

zer0spunk
Nov 6, 2000

devil never even lived
Birds Of Prey 2.5/5 - It was alright. Ewan McGregor steals the fairly averagey show with his scene-chewing. Making him and zsaz a gay couple was an interesting choice
Sonic 2.5/5 - Anytime I see sonic inside a car my brain screams "you can run fast, you lazy motherfucker". Making robotnik and his assistant a gay couple was an interesting choice

SpitztheGreat
Jul 20, 2005

zer0spunk posted:

The Lodge - 2.5/5 - Wants to be an Ari Aster movie so hard it might as well be called Schmeditary. One of those movies that gets dumber the longer you think about it after the fact. I liked the third act but this is 100% a watch on netflix movie.

gently caress THOSE KIDS, little pieces of poo poo

The Lodge- 3.5/5. Really solid movie, had me in its grip the whole time with good use of tension. Upon reflection (and reading) I can see that this is going to be a pretty polarizing movie. The things that I liked about it will also be considered weaknesses. If you watch a lot of horror movies I can imagine that you'll be pretty jaded even though The Lodge attempts to subvert traditional tropes. Personally, as someone that doesn't watch many modern horror movies I found The Lodge refreshing. The movie really succeeds at pulling and pushing you away/towards characters so that you're always on edge. It is a very slow movie, and it expects you to roll with the punches while filling in the gaps as needed. It is light on backstory, but gives you just the right amount that you have enough info to draw basic conclusions. If there is a flaw it's that the kids have a plan that is so advance and so cruel that it almost defies explanation. While I think the movie succeeds in bringing you back around (to some extent) on the kids, I think the removal of the hanging scene would have benefited the movie significantly. Faking a hanging is so far beyond the pale that it nudges the kids and their actions too close to outright evil for many viewers to accept. Removing or reworking that scene and finding a different catalyst for pushing Grace over the point of no return would have made redeeming the kids more believable. Still though, I really felt for the kids in that they seemed to fully understand and comprehend that everything that happened in the last act was their own fault. I have a soft spot for stories where a situation goes too far, gets out of hand, goes beyond what the character intended, and they are left with the guilt/punishment that they know they deserve.

TommyGun85
Jun 5, 2013

zer0spunk posted:

Birds Of Prey 2.5/5 - It was alright. Ewan McGregor steals the fairly averagey show with his scene-chewing. Making him and zsaz a gay couple was an interesting choice
Sonic 2.5/5 - Anytime I see sonic inside a car my brain screams "you can run fast, you lazy motherfucker". Making robotnik and his assistant a gay couple was an interesting choice

Everyone must be represented at all times.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Turbinosamente posted:


Conan the Barbarian 5/10: I appreciate the fact that this is nearly a silent movie with how little dialogue there is from everybody, not just Schwarzenegger, and how much it uses the great musical score to set the scene, and its crafted well and all, but I was rather bored for most of it. Unless you are really into the sword and sandals fantasy epic/power fantasy (and apparently I'm not) I'd steer clear. Also I've often heard the "Having your enemies driven before you..." line but never expected it to be delivered like that in the film.


Everyone's entitled to their own opinion. Still, ouch.

Ogmius815
Aug 25, 2005
centrism is a hell of a drug

Downhill: B- note that I have not seen Force Majeur, the Swedish film on which this movie is based. I liked this movie better than the critics seem to, and I wonder if it’s because I don’t have the original to compare it to. Julia Louis-Dreyfus is good, as always, but Will Ferrell is not. As I see it, this film had two goals, to be funny, and to take an intimate look at a mature marriage on the rocks. The film succeeds at both goals, but only to a limited extent. It was nice to see Miranda Otto. You should watch this movie, but mostly because you only get so many opportunities to see Julia Louis-Dreyfus in film.

Sonic the Hedgehog: B Solid family/kids movie. CGI looked pretty good, and although the humor was cheesy it was not overly scatological or childish. Watch this movie for authentic old school Jim Carrey. I did not appreciate the dumb “message” that James Marsden’s character is somehow obliged to live in backwater Montana because it is his “home” or something, and I almost took a third of a grade away for that. Probably among the best video game movies I have ever seen, though that is a low bar indeed.

The Call of the Wild: C Very little to like about this movie. It is poor on its own merits, and suffers from any comparison with the source material. Buck is anthropomorphized in a way that not only annoyed me, but undermined the thematic content of the story, which is about a dog that breaks free of the influence of humanity. The film lacks any of the harshness of the Yukon communicated so effectively in the novel, and ultimately comes off a play school version of the world. For example, ask yourself: does Harrison Ford’s character die in this movie? He certainly seems to, and his character in the novel definitely does, but then a minute later he’s narrating as if he actually survived. About the narration: it gave me flashbacks to the original cut of Bladerunner in that it was largely unnecessary and served only to clumsily make explicit what can already be plainly seen by the viewer. I would have cut the narration and found a different way to communicate the one or two important story points it conveys. Harrison Ford’s dead-son backstory is at best maudlin and at worst manipulative. His role as the competent master who knows how to survive is somewhat undermined when he suddenly undertakes a quixotic quest to visit a random point off the map (where there happens to be a house waiting). Also, the “villain” was ridiculous and cartoony, but not on purpose. I thought the CGI was fine and I liked the two mail carriers.

Emma.: B+ Very good, a first rate adaptation. Reasonably well acted by everyone, with a mostly outstanding performance by the lead. Bill Nighy manages to steal every scene he’s in, sometimes without actually having a line. Vivid colors gave the movie an interesting look and feel, I wish I could have seen this in a premium format with better color contrast, but sadly this just isn’t that kind of movie. Persistently funny. But points off for being a period drama based on well worn source material.

The Invisible Man (2020): B+ I understand that our many Marxist psychoanalyst film critics of CD are coming out against this movie, but I liked it. It’s thrilling and well thought out. Even the jump scares are good. Huge props to Elisabeth Moss for really raising the stakes in this movie. Since we never see what Griffin is like in person until the very end, we rely on her performance to sell the tension, and she nails it. Everyone else in the movie was fine to bad. Which brings me to my main criticism, which is that you will feel the effects of Blumhouse’s tiny budget on this film. Also, the trailer gave away too much from the first half of the movie. Overall, a very good thriller/horror I would recommend to anyone.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
The Invisible Man - 4/5 Very good thriller with some horror sensibilities. Elizabeth Moss does heavy lifting throughout and is great. Smart usage of the camera to make you wonder if you're seeing the man's pov or should be looking for him in the scene. An action scene is out of place in tone and style but it's pretty forgivable. The best thing about the movie is that it correctly identifies techbros as narcissistic sociopaths.

Color Out of Space - 3/5 I liked this a lot more than Mandy. It was well paced and used the source material pretty well. The slice of life story and slow tempo worked for me but I still think Nick Cage hurts these films more than he helps. I'm eager to see what they do with Dunwich.

TommyGun85
Jun 5, 2013
Ready Player One

0.5 / 5

This thing was a mess. I have not read the source material, but I imagine its just as bad. It gets half a point for depicting a dystopian world so ridiculous that it made me laugh.

falz
Jan 29, 2005

01100110 01100001 01101100 01111010

TommyGun85 posted:

Ready Player One

0.5 / 5

This thing was a mess. I have not read the source material, but I imagine its just as bad. It gets half a point for depicting a dystopian world so ridiculous that it made me laugh.
Source material is some love it some hate it. The movie is way worse imo.

Spielberg Spielberg'd it to include his IP and remove the 80s nostalgia focus for wider appeal.

EL BROMANCE
Jun 10, 2006

COWABUNGA DUDES!
🥷🐢😬



What I’ve seen of the book is loving unreadable garbage.

A Bag of Milk
Jul 3, 2007

I don't see any American dream; I see an American nightmare.
The Shawshank Redemption

I've managed to go my whole life without seeing this one or really knowing much of anything about it. I found it deeply gripping and moving the whole way through. Everything really landed for me, from the cinematography, the pacing, basically all the performances... I will be thinking about this one for years to come. I knew it was supposed to be one of the best ever, but I just wanted to add my 2c, that I don't think it's aged a day. Regarding the ending, it was saccharine sweet to a jarring degree, but considering how well that tied in to the overall themes, I can't knock it for that. I feel like I need to watch it again just to collect my thoughts. 10

Rick
Feb 23, 2004
When I was 17, my father was so stupid, I didn't want to be seen with him in public. When I was 24, I was amazed at how much the old man had learned in just 7 years.
Portrait of a Lady on Fire is really good, see it if you have a stern enough stomach to take on a story that in some ways is oppressively sad (although like the protagonist I think I ultimately found the happiness). The tension, the love, the friendship, and the loss, all bleed through the screen and the acting is top notch. I have a feeling this one is going to stick with me.

BeanpolePeckerwood
May 4, 2004

I MAY LOOK LIKE SHIT BUT IM ALSO DUMB AS FUCK



Rick posted:

Portrait of a Lady on Fire is really good, see it if you have a stern enough stomach to take on a story that in some ways is oppressively sad (although like the protagonist I think I ultimately found the happiness). The tension, the love, the friendship, and the loss, all bleed through the screen and the acting is top notch. I have a feeling this one is going to stick with me.

It's also pretty much the best film about painting ever

The Klowner
Apr 20, 2019

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dune 1984 looked and sounded fantastic. Too bad it sucked.

The extended version I mean.

E: oh right the rating. I gave it 2 out of 5 stars on Letterboxed so I guess that translates to a D-?

The Klowner fucked around with this message at 02:30 on Mar 9, 2020

PotatoManJack
Nov 9, 2009
Skyscraper 2.5/5 Watched this with my wife over the weekend as it just dropped onto Netflix here in Australia. We both had the same reaction in that it was stupid as gently caress, but in a dumbly entertaining way. There's almost no character development, everyone seems very stupid, and the Rock keeps doing insane things that you just can't help but laugh at while also wondering how the hell he's gonna get out of this one. The 100 minute length is also great for those who only have a couple of hours to spare (for us, after the kids are in bed we have limited time for TV watching before we need to get chore done and get to bed ourselves), and I could see it dragging on if it was any longer.

Kull the Conqueror
Apr 8, 2006

Take me to the green valley,
lay the sod o'er me,
I'm a young cowboy,
I know I've done wrong

TommyGun85 posted:

Ready Player One

0.5 / 5

This thing was a mess. I have not read the source material, but I imagine its just as bad. It gets half a point for depicting a dystopian world so ridiculous that it made me laugh.

I wonder if I gave this movie too much credit because I watched it right after Aquaman on a plane and found it passable simply for having something of a competent visual language.

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...
Had a lazy week away with friends and saw a lot of movies. Unfortunately, few left any impression:

Dr Strange: was a completely typical superhero origin film, elevated slightly by the conflict being magical rather than lycra-clad muscle men hitting each other. It had a good look too. But, watching several superhero films in a row, they started to blur into one another. Rating: C

Guardians of the Galaxy, Vol. 2: ... with one notable exception. GoG2 largely swaps the gravitas for ludicrous fun to good effect, exemplified in the opening scene as the gang zooms and crashes about fighting a large space squid, on a job for a humorless and uptight space empire. I keep thinking that we really really need someone to take this approach for filming "Nextwave" or "Hawkeye". Rating: B+

Gloria Bell: Gloria goes dancing. Gloria goes on a date. Gloria complains about her neighbour. Gloria goes to a so-so dinner party. This got great reviews, and we need wider representation and a broader set of subjects with film, but this was just bland and puzzled me with how insubstantial it was. Some reviewers suggested that this lost a bit of nuance compared to the Argentinian original. Rating: D

sean10mm
Jun 29, 2005

It's a Mad, Mad, Mad, MAD-2R World

The Clowner posted:

Dune 1984 looked and sounded fantastic. Too bad it sucked.

The extended version I mean.

E: oh right the rating. I gave it 2 out of 5 stars on Letterboxed so I guess that translates to a D-?

It has a great atmosphere, a unique look and a good cast... but it's a trash adaptation that doesn't work as a film.

What gets me about it is that the biggest problem with adapting Dune is just making the story fit in the theatrical runtime, so they... added *extra* poo poo not in the books? It's such a wierd mix of rushed and full of filler.

Bottom Liner
Feb 15, 2006


a specific vein of lasagna
Onward - I’m kinda torn but landing at a 3.5. Much like Toy Story 4, I didn’t care about much of this movie, but then the emotional beats land and hit like a ton of bricks. Pixar have emotional manipulation down to a science and it’s scary how good they are at it. I didn’t really care for the premise or characters, but the humor was good and the emotional moments really hit hard even if I can’t relate to the specific situation

nonathlon
Jul 9, 2004
And yet, somehow, now it's my fault ...

nonathlon posted:

Gloria Bell: Gloria goes dancing. Gloria goes on a date. Gloria complains about her neighbour. Gloria goes to a so-so dinner party. This got great reviews, and we need wider representation and a broader set of subjects with film, but this was just bland and puzzled me with how insubstantial it was. Some reviewers suggested that this lost a bit of nuance compared to the Argentinian original. Rating: D

Following myself up, on reflection I feel I was a little harsh. Julianne Moore is terrific in the lead role, a role that requires her to be very ordinary, very internal, very repressed. The film still didn't work for me - if you're going to do a slice of life, it had better be an interesting life - but it deserves some credit.

On a positive note, Jojo Rabbit was so, so good. It's funny, engaging and gives dimension and depth to life in the 3rd Reich. Undeniably quirky and weird (i.e. German-language versions of David Bowie songs) in a way that admittedly might put some people off, I kept thinking of the TV series Hunters, which in contrast is unable to mix comedy and gravitas, each just cheapening the other.

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anatomi
Jan 31, 2015

I don't get the "Pixar are experts at emotional manipulation" thing. Like most studios they're extremely heavy-handed and rely almost entirely on emotional contagion.

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