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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed.
R. Allin-Khan	6	1.60%
R. Burgon	80	21.33%
D. Butler	72	19.20%
A. Rayner	35	9.33%
I. Murray	5	1.33%
P. Flaps	177	47.20%
Total:	375 votes

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Darth Walrus: Feb 13, 2012

ThomasPaine posted:

Sure but China's socialism/lack of socialism is kinda a different topic though. He's obviously using 'socialism' as a stand-in for 'interventionist big state government', which I admit isn't ideal for its own reasons, but I don't think that's what Bloodworth's picking up on.

e: fwiw I'm mostly skeptical of everything written on China in the West. I think they think they're socialist, but they're going about it in a dogmatic and super flawed way that has then also been influenced by some fairly conservative aspects of Chinese culture. I don't think that's any reason to doubt their sincerity though. You look at someone like Xi's life and he pretty obviously considers himself a communist and has also put the graft into learning his theory. So I'm kind of in the position where I can think they're loving it up but still feel genuinely inspired by the fact that they believe in something. That sense of optimism and purpose and community-mindedness has come across to me in many conversations with (mainland) Chinese friends and colleagues, and tbqh it's loving intoxicating by comparison to places like the UK where everyone's alienated and miserable and nobody cares about anything but the most superficial bullshit and it's just work and consume till you die, more blood for the blood god, number must go up.*

*Yes, Chinese policy direction since Deng has been quite 'number must go up' too, but as the pandemic response shows this is understood in completely different terms. Capitalism isn't a governing ideology but the CPC are attempting to harness the power of capitalism to their own ends without needlessly deferring to it at all times. Hence why you can just shut down an entire city and mobilise insane resources where necessary.

No, I mean that the actual structure of their economy has a lot more to do with free-market economics than they prefer to admit. I wouldn't even call it 'dogmatic', because policy is so divorced from dogma.

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Gyro Zeppeli: Jul 19, 2012; sure hope no-one throws me off a bridge

ThomasPaine posted:

I'm don't take any pleasure in it but bodies in the street and mass graves (and not just amongst the poor!) can only do the British national consciousness good in the long run. I've said it before, but I think one of the major reasons for this absurd sense of exceptionalism we have and general belief that nothing really bad could happen here is down to Britain never being directly invaded in WW2. Every other country in Europe has been under occupation and has seen cities become warzones and mass death, whereas we got the blitz which was, while bad, a drop in the ocean by comparison. It's exactly the same story with the USA. The only thing that's going to get rid of that frankly dangerous attitude is being made to sit and watch as it does happen here.

And even then they'll probably still vote Tory.

Accelerationism is a lovely stance and only punishes the most vulnerable. The people who are content now will continue to be content.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 14:55

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Darth Walrus posted:

No, I mean that the actual structure of their economy has a lot more to do with free-market economics than they prefer to admit. I wouldn't even call it 'dogmatic', because policy is so divorced from dogma.

It's dogmatic in the sense that they opened the big book of marxism and said ah ok communism is over here on the right and we're all the way over here on the left next to feudalism, but wait what's this capitalism is in the middle between those two things so I guess we, the communist party, need to do capitalism first, those are the rules!

Yes I'm being facetious and the theory is a little more sophisticated, but that's the basic take

Gyro Zeppeli posted:

Accelerationism is a lovely stance and only punishes the most vulnerable. The people who are content now will continue to be content.

It would be accelerationism if I wanted it to happen. I don't, because it'll kill a lot of people who don't deserve to die. But I do think that complete ideological shattering might be one of the few silver-linings should it come to it.

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 15:01 on Mar 14, 2020

# ? Mar 14, 2020 14:59

Whimsicalfuckery: Sep 6, 2011

Just got off the phone with my boss who denied my request to start working from home. I told him that this was mainly motivated by protecting my partner, who has heart failure and probably wouldn't do too well if he got it. I see his point that we're a small office in the middle of nowhere but given that we meet clients all the time, many of whom are tour guides and one of our collegues has just got back from Chetenham, I don't think I'm being too unreasonable with my request.

Gonna enjoy not touching anything at work on Monday.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:00

thespaceinvader: Mar 30, 2011; The slightest touch from a Gol-Shogeg will result in Instant Death!

ThomasPaine posted:

Britain never being directly invaded in WW2. Every other country in Europe has been under occupation and has seen cities become warzones and mass death, whereas we got the blitz which was, while bad, a drop in the ocean by comparison.

Just as a point of order, the British *mainland* was never invaded successfully, but British territory was. The Channel Islands were occupied for most of the war, which is something that tends to be forgotten.

I don't think this is necessarily wrong, but I question just how much of it comes about from this, and how much just from The Glorious Empire.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:00

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

thespaceinvader posted:

Just as a point of order, the British *mainland* was never invaded successfully, but British territory was. The Channel Islands were occupied for most of the war, which is something that tends to be forgotten.

I don't think this is necessarily wrong, but I question just how much of it comes about from this, and how much just from The Glorious Empire.

Fair point, have to remember us good guys selling out all the jews on the channel islands.

btw on your second point I think it's absolutely bound up with imperial nostalgia, but WW2 has essentially been incorporated into that now.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:03

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

Failed Imagineer posted:

In undergrad biology we had some philosophy bits, where you could basically end up with a definition of life that includes "fire"

Yeah, I remember conversions like that at A-level.

Arbitrary biochemical definitions like "contains a complete genome capable of self-replication" aren't very philosophical, but capability based definitions like "growth, reproduction, consumption, and excretion" will include odd things like fire or stars.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:03

jabby: Oct 27, 2010

OwlFancier posted:

Glad you're not dead, was a bit worried tbh.

I've been going through exams and my wife had a baby two months ago, so I kind of took a break from politics.

For an actual medical update though, individual hospitals are basically making it up as they go along. The response from central government has been non-existent. Yesterday my workplace introduced new rules that every patient must name one visitor who is allowed to come see them, but that was entirely off their own bat. We are well into the exponential growth phase of the virus and so far our leaders have done nothing. It's quite incredible. Nobody knows what PPE to use, and hardly any of us have been tested for mask fit. Our hospital was doing tests, until some bright spark realised we were burning through our entire stock of masks so now we aren't fit testing people any more.

If things do kick off, we will probably be hit worse than Italy. The NHS operates at about 98% bed capacity on normal days, and staffing is often unsafe without a single person off sick. We cancel all non-essential services to cope with a mild winter flu, and Covid-19 has the potential to be ten times worse than the worst winter flu.

So, good luck everyone. I sincerely hope things peter out on their own.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:03

Guavanaut: Nov 27, 2009; Looking At Them Tittys
1969 - 1998; Toilet Rascal

thespaceinvader posted:

Just as a point of order, the British *mainland* was never invaded successfully, but British territory was. The Channel Islands were occupied for most of the war, which is something that tends to be forgotten.

I don't think this is necessarily wrong, but I question just how much of it comes about from this, and how much just from The Glorious Empire.

Singapore too, which was actually British territory, whereas the Channel Islands are a miserable pile of tax loopholes and excluded from any definition of Britain in the acts of union.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:08

TACD: Oct 27, 2000

Went shopping this morning and the toilet roll was all gone, lol. Since there's nothing actually driving the panic buying other than every other fucker doing it, presumably we'll get to a point soon where everybody has a years' worth of toilet roll stashed away and nobody will be able to sell any for months.

Edit: I bet all it would take is a couple of staged pictures of empty shelves of lemon squash or something going viral to incite everyone to panic buy whatever the gently caress you want.

TACD fucked around with this message at 15:16 on Mar 14, 2020

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:13

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TACD posted:

Went shopping this morning and the toilet roll was all gone, lol. Since there's nothing actually driving the panic buying other than every other fucker doing it, presumably we'll get to a point soon where everybody has a years' worth of toilet roll stashed away and nobody will be able to sell any for months.

Subsidies for toilet paper manufacturers or they'll be wiped out.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:14

Pesmerga: Aug 1, 2005; So nice to eat you

Death count in England has doubled.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:16

ThomasPaine: Feb 4, 2009; We have no compassion and we ask no compassion from you. When our turn comes, we shall not make excuses for the terror.

Whimsicalfuckery posted:

Just got off the phone with my boss who denied my request to start working from home. I told him that this was mainly motivated by protecting my partner, who has heart failure and probably wouldn't do too well if he got it. I see his point that we're a small office in the middle of nowhere but given that we meet clients all the time, many of whom are tour guides and one of our collegues has just got back from Chetenham, I don't think I'm being too unreasonable with my request.

Gonna enjoy not touching anything at work on Monday.

fyi if you genuinely believe there is a danger of you seriously putting yourself or a loved one at risk, the Employment Rights Act 1996 states that you are within your rights to immediately withdraw your labour without penalty:

quote:

(d) in circumstances of danger which the employee reasonably believed to be serious and imminent and which he could not reasonably have been expected to avert, he left (or proposed to leave) or (while the danger persisted) refused to return to his place of work or any dangerous part of his place of work, or

(e) in circumstances of danger which the employee reasonably believed to be serious and imminent, he took (or proposed to take) appropriate steps to protect himself or other persons from the danger.

I'd say if you are immune compromised or live with people who are, you'd have an extremely strong case in a tribunal if an employer tried to gently caress you over for refusing to work during a pandemic

ThomasPaine fucked around with this message at 15:19 on Mar 14, 2020

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deano: Sep 6, 2000

Mebh posted:

Yeah they were what my guests brought, I don't see the obsession. They're too sweet. I haven't gravitated to making my own buns yet as that's really pushing the effort too far.

I'd totally recommend a cheap grinder though. Means I can take £10 of ribeye and process it into mince for about 9 patties? I slightly freeze the steaks before I grind them and it takes about 30s. Never going back.

Very much yes, i got a grinder when i went na not buying burgers i'll make them myself(run a breakfast/lunch diner), I find steak pork loin/belly smoked bacon 2:1:0.5 makes a good smokey smash burger base, chicken and haggis was a nice one as well.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:17

kecske: Feb 28, 2011; it's round, like always

Pesmerga posted:

Death count in England has doubled.

hail satan death awaits :devil:

e: as I type this the MIL calls to let us know she's isolating with all the symptoms

kecske fucked around with this message at 15:21 on Mar 14, 2020

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:18

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Pesmerga posted:

Death count in England has doubled.

There are still zero cases in the Highlands so please stay in your southern death holes, thanks in advance

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:23

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

Mebh posted:

Yeah they were what my guests brought, I don't see the obsession. They're too sweet. I haven't gravitated to making my own buns yet as that's really pushing the effort too far.

Brioche is amazing for things that are complemented by a bit of sweetness like pulled pork or cheese, but it explicitly is no good for fully savoury things like beef burgers, and people are bad and wrong for trying to make them work together.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:25

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1238808411246075905

please stop questioning your betters, thanks

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:26

Wiggly Wayne DDS: Sep 11, 2010

forkboy84 posted:

There are still zero cases in the Highlands so please stay in your southern death holes, thanks in advance

https://www.gov.scot/coronavirus-covid-19/

code:

Health board		Positive cases
Ayrshire and Arran		6
Borders				5
Fife				6
Forth Valley			6
Grampian			9
Greater Glasgow and Clyde	31
Highland			1
Lanarkshire			10
Lothian				25
Shetland			11
Tayside				11

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:27

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

Mebh posted:

Yeah they were what my guests brought, I don't see the obsession. They're too sweet. I haven't gravitated to making my own buns yet as that's really pushing the effort too far.

I'd totally recommend a cheap grinder though. Means I can take £10 of ribeye and process it into mince for about 9 patties? I slightly freeze the steaks before I grind them and it takes about 30s. Never going back.

Why not buy a cheaper cut more traditionally used for burgers than ribeye?

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:27

Oodles: Oct 31, 2005

forkboy84 posted:

There are still zero cases in the Highlands so please stay in your southern death holes, thanks in advance

I�m in Aberdeen and there�s 6 cases in Grampian. Sometimes being in the frozen North has its benefits.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:29

Angepain: Jul 13, 2012; what keeps happening to my clothes

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

https://www.gov.scot/coronavirus-covid-19/

So Orkney, Western Isles and Dumfries and Galloway are fine then! Everyone move over there, all at once

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:31

Comrade Fakename: Feb 13, 2012

I think that when the first famous person dies of Coronavirus poo poo is going to get pretty real for the public.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:33

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What do you guys think about this

My girlfriend was just walking her dog and apparently a guy wearing a face mask walked past her, and as he did he removed the mask and coughed on her. What the gently caress

I'd ring the NHS line if we were in the UK, but we're in Vietnam.

I mean he was probably just being a oval office and likely didn't infect her, but hard to know what to do in this situation. She lives with her dad who is old and diabetic, which is especially troubling

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:39

XMNN: Apr 26, 2008; I am incredibly stupid

Angepain posted:

https://twitter.com/DawnHFoster/status/1238808411246075905

please stop questioning your betters, thanks

for anyone who's curious

quote:

In 2019 – before the outbreak of coronavirus began – a global survey found that around 20 per cent of people believed that vaccination against disease not only didn’t work, but in fact was actively dangerous. These people had been hoodwinked by an anti-vaxxer movement that relies on emotion and obscures the science, but the impacts of such irrationality are stark. Last year, the UK lost its measles-free status, the pernicious legacy of the anti-MMR campaigners who wrongly linked the jab to cases of autism. Parents who wanted to protect their children ended up harming them instead.

As the anti-vaxxers show, a gut feeling is no substitute for science, or for rationality. All sorts of decisions that may seem counterintuitive to a lay person will be readily explained by an expert. It is for this very reason that now, with coronavirus presenting the most profound public health crisis in living memory, we should not be tempted to gainsay the advice of the experts – in particular the Chief Medical Officer, Chris Whitty, and Sir Patrick Vallance, the government’s Chief Scientific Adviser, who yesterday gave such a clear and measured explanation of why the UK is reacting as it is to Covid-19.

It is they, and not us, who have the medical and scientific expertise – coupled with the data and modelling on how and when the NHS will best be able to cope with the inevitable influx of patients with the disease – to decide on what approach we should be taking.

In these times, we should beware the people with fake expertise. Whether it be the editor of the Lancet, who yesterday criticised the government’s approach, notwithstanding his lack of expertise in epidemiology or virology, and his lack of access to full NHS data; politicians like Rory Stewart; or TV presenters like Piers Morgan.

I’m sure that they genuinely believe that what they are saying is right. Many others, too, will share their worries: it is only natural for us all to be scared and confused right now, particularly when other countries have reacted differently.

https://mobile.twitter.com/RoryStewartUK/status/1237509715493609473

At a time of crisis, our instincts will tell us to take the most drastic action, as soon as possible. But our instincts are not more powerful than the science. It is Whitty and Vallance, and their colleagues, who have evaluated what would happen if there was a lockdown now and the virus then started to spread again this coming winter. It is they who have modelled the availability of NHS beds and ventilators at different times of the year. Those of us without knowledge or expertise need to trust their judgments.

However, this isn’t simply a matter of saying that the loudmouths with limited expertise should leave it to the people who know what they’re talking about. There is, in fact, a real danger to people standing on their soapboxes. It’s clear that we are fast approaching a situation that will become akin to a war, where the public is asked to accept unprecedented sacrifices, and where the effect on the “home front” will be the most profound since the end of the Second World War.

If people with limited knowledge whip up rhetoric against the official advice, then this undermines confidence in the very people who are keeping us as safe as possible. It is that confidence that is necessary to ensure that people stay on board with the substantial restrictions on their lives that soon will be imposed – and that will give us the best chance of saving as many lives as possible. If people don’t trust what they are told to do, then they won’t do it. The ill-informed and opinionated sniping at the government could end up undermining the entire, carefully-worked out and scientific strategy to save lives; and inadvertently cost lives.

Even more troubling are those – particularly on social media – who are trying to use the crisis for party political gain. Just because you disagree with Boris Johnson generally does not mean that you should try to pick holes in his approach for the sake of it. We are no longer debating Brexit, or running a general election campaign, where there were two sides to every argument. The current crisis goes well above party politics, and trying to undermine the government on this issue for factional reasons is deeply dangerous.

The genuine disaster scenario we are facing now does not sit easily with the freedoms we've become used to, or the era of social media. We should be braver in saying that – at this time – some people's opinions don't count. Just as we have to trust that it’s right to vaccinate our children, so we have to trust the people who have the knowledge and data to keep us as safe as it’s possible to be in the face of the awful threat of coronavirus.

e: not quite the "why aren't the millennials out there licking doorknobs to save me" I was expecting, but the bolded bit is sort of missing the point that the government has been doing this itself by issuing advice that is unclear and untimely and allowing themselves to be wrong footed by people's general willingness to make sacrifices that the government had decided they weren't prepared for

XMNN fucked around with this message at 15:48 on Mar 14, 2020

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:40

forkboy84: Jun 13, 2012; Corgis love bread. And Puro

Wiggly Wayne DDS posted:

https://www.gov.scot/coronavirus-covid-19/

code:

Health board		Positive cases
Ayrshire and Arran		6
Borders				5
Fife				6
Forth Valley			6
Grampian			9
Greater Glasgow and Clyde	31
Highland			1
Lanarkshire			10
Lothian				25
Shetland			11
Tayside				11

Yeah, but NHS Highland is a vast area, combining Argyll & Bute Council area and Highland Council. You're talking as far west as Tiree to as far east as Nairn, as far north as Thurso to as far south as Campbelltown, over 32,500 km� and just 321,800 people.

So I'll just assume that it's still restricted to Argyll & Bute. Probably Helensburgh, that's basically in civilisation!

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:41

Soylent Yellow: Nov 5, 2010; yospos

There've just been a couple of retired doctors on radio 4 Any Answers absolutely demolishing the government herd immunity response. Also rather fewer Gammons than usual.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:42

mediaphage: Mar 22, 2007; Excuse me, pardon me, sheer perfection coming through

Doctor_Fruitbat posted:

Brioche is amazing for things that are complemented by a bit of sweetness like pulled pork or cheese, but it explicitly is no good for fully savoury things like beef burgers, and people are bad and wrong for trying to make them work together.

What? Brioche is perfectly fine for burgers. My biggest complaint about buns these days for burgers and related sandwiches is that they make them so loving big you literally can't put them in your mouth, or they use dumb hard "artisan" bread that just squishes everything out.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:43

Doctor_Fruitbat: Jun 2, 2013

Nah, no brioche for beef burgers.

You are absolutely right about the other things though.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:44

Whimsicalfuckery: Sep 6, 2011

forkboy84 posted:

There are still zero cases in the Highlands so please stay in your southern death holes, thanks in advance

ftfy https://www.pressandjournal.co.uk/f...al-reaches-121/

And yeah the Highlands is a huge area and it could be anywhere but we only have one major hospital and it's been slowly crumbling into dust for a while. I hope they're over their norovirus epidemic that they were tackling up til recently.

Whimsicalfuckery fucked around with this message at 15:49 on Mar 14, 2020

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:44

Pesmerga: Aug 1, 2005; So nice to eat you

1140 cases, up from 797 yesterday.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:48

OwlFancier: Aug 22, 2013

Number go up!

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:50

Jose: Jul 24, 2007; Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer

my mate has decided that the governments plan is clearly a good one because there were 2 doctors answering questions or whatever on the recent thing boris was on tv for so surely they know what they're talking about

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:52

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

I wasn't kidding when I said this whole thing smacks of dom cum dot com game theory. Remember when Johnson said "some people believe we should just take it on the chin" to Phil and Holly, and we all thought "wow what an irresponsible thing to put out there" without realising that's literally what he was planning

jabby posted:

I know I haven't been in the thread much since the election, but I just wanted to give you a quick medical update:

glad you're still around buddy!

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:53

Gonzo McFee: Jun 19, 2010

https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1238818486568321025

Hahahahaha Jesus Christ we have no excuse.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:53

baka kaba: Jul 19, 2003; PLEASE ASK ME, THE SELF-PROFESSED NO #1 PAUL CATTERMOLE FAN IN THE SOMETHING AWFUL S-CLUB 7 MEGATHREAD, TO NAME A SINGLE SONG BY HIS EXCELLENT NU-METAL SIDE PROJECT, SKUA, AND IF I CAN'T PLEASE TELL ME TO
EAT SHIT

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1238818486568321025

Hahahahaha Jesus Christ we have no excuse.

someone else tweeted that with the actual quote, he goes "of course he ended up being catastrophically wrong, but his instincts were correct"

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:55

thrashingteeth: Dec 22, 2019; depressive hedonia
always tired
taco tuesday

Gonzo McFee posted:

https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1238818486568321025

Hahahahaha Jesus Christ we have no excuse.

This is so perfect I can't even believe this is true.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 15:56

Angrymog: Jan 30, 2012; Really Madcats

goddamnedtwisto posted:

Weird thing around here is that all the big shops have empty bogroll shelves but all the little ones have tons. I'm assuming there's going to be some fascinating psychological papers about this at some point.

Yesterday I went into town to see if by chance Tescos had any (I did actually need some, not getting my Hamsterkauf on), and walked past one of the newsagent owners unloading boxes of Andrex out of his car - must have just done a cash 'n' carry run. As I was paying he told his wife to put a sign out saying that they have TP.

Today there are people camping the TP aisle in Tescos as if they're hoping some will spawn.

# ? Mar 14, 2020 16:03

Shogi: Nov 23, 2004; distant Pohjola

jabby posted:

For an actual medical update though, individual hospitals are basically making it up as they go along. The response from central government has been non-existent. Yesterday my workplace introduced new rules that every patient must name one visitor who is allowed to come see them, but that was entirely off their own bat. We are well into the exponential growth phase of the virus and so far our leaders have done nothing. It's quite incredible. Nobody knows what PPE to use, and hardly any of us have been tested for mask fit. Our hospital was doing tests, until some bright spark realised we were burning through our entire stock of masks so now we aren't fit testing people any more.

If things do kick off, we will probably be hit worse than Italy.

Hope things stay manageable jabby, you're doing everything you can in a ridiculous situation and people appreciate that.

What you said matches up with my experience in the psychiatric trust and that of friends in the local acute trusts. Makes me feel sort of better and worse at the same time. Aren't the Tories supposedly perceived by their voters as the safe, solid Natural Party of Governance? If they're just gonna dither and play fiddle while the crisis comes down the line, then what the gently caress kind of appeal do they even have to anyone? As it is people are just trying to wing it as best they can.

Meanwhile I'm waking up at 4am every morning coughing with a stabby weight on my chest and waiting for test results from the MHSOP staff who unlike me are febrile. With our one oxygen bottle per ward, no capacity for IV meds or ventilation and zero PPE, I do wonder how we're going to keep people alive if the acute trusts fall over and can't take patients from us.

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Azza Bamboo: Apr 7, 2018; THUNDERDOME LOSER 2021

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