Beet Wagon posted:

Oh gently caress yeah baby nothing says Star Citizen like a fuckin' minute-long traiiiiiiiiiin riiiiiiiiiiiide

https://dai.ly/x7spjmp

ewe2 posted:

wind can't blow cos the sky is gone
wind can't blow cos the sky is gone
wind can't blow cos the sky is gone
wind can't blow cos the sky is gone

Quavers posted:

[i]Star Citizen Roadmap Update (2020-03-13)






Squadron 42 Roadmap Discussion (2020-03-13)



Fair statement, just get it right eventually and I’m fine with it.

It'd be nice to know the actual current state of things other than "We're not as far along as we'd like to be" and "We expect great progress this year". Repeatedly spoken words since 2016. I really hope we get some actual clarification or reasonable estimates. Been wanting this for ages now =/

It got so old they stopped even saying those words since people now roll their eyes.

At last. A logical decision. Roadmaps are useless to the player with this kind of games.

Dementropy posted:

: "Star Citizen: Calling All Devs - Squadron 42"
With the current linear roadmap, this would mean that progress would seem to be none-existent, up until the final month, where all the tasks and chapters should suddenly be completed.

Sarsapariller posted:

The Calder's are probably just fine with their investment because the whole operation continues to print money on the backs of idiot whales

lobsterminator posted:

Yeah. I've done this kind of advanced parallel AAA development on some freelance projects. It means loving around and realizing in panic that the deadline is tomorrow.

The fun thing with Star Citizen is that they have no deadline and can gently caress around eternally.

G0RF posted:

This is probably one of those times where we just disagree, like we did about ages ago.

I’m not predicting End of Days for CIG tomorrow or anything. I do assume, based on what little I know about Calder, that he’s not ambivalent about how his selective investments are managed. He was told his $46 million would be allocated for a massive marketing push of a game hitting beta by Summer 2020. Neither is likely to be true, and CIG’s inability to properly manage their own project probably matters somewhat to the guy.

CIG is less transparent than ever these days, so it’s hard to really tell what’s going on behind the scenes, but that latest Calling All Devs with Lando, Chambers, Elms, Tyler, and the AI guy they’ve been trying to replace for two years sure didn’t convey much confidence. It was bad enough that even Lando seemed embarrassed. Who knew he had it in him?

You’re right that much depends on cash flow. Here, we don’t have much we can trust. We do know Chris was pretty much out of fuel and racing to impact when Calder’s investment bought them more time. It didn’t seem to trouble the backers as much as it should have that Chris could have been so reckless with cash. Perhaps it won’t bother Calder either, but if his music career is any indication, he takes his deals pretty seriously. (Do some “Clive Calder” searches through Google Books to get a sense of the man and see if you disagree.) We do know pretty well how Chris pitched Calder on the investment though, because the 2018 Holiday Livestream was very much an all-hands-on-deck pitch to big money about the bright future of Squadron 42 and the industrious studio that was CIG. Back then he said he’d be wrapping the game up in 2019. I suppose he could’ve told Calder “ignore that it’s really 2022” or something but since money was going into a money burning not a profit earning business, it seems safer to assume Calder was given a bullish release target, too. Given the valuation, bullish sales projections, too.

If the fundraising machinery of CIG performs well enough, perhaps the haplessness and delays won’t matter to Calder. Like TheAgent, though, I personally suspect that the marketplace volatility is a threat to the confidence even of some of the super whales. It’s not just 401ks getting hit, not just Coronavirus shutting down cities or schools or retail.

For example — Will Miku, who makes his money from the Houston oil sector, feel as carefree about cash if the Russian/Saudi oil price war keeps the market at $20? Because at that price there’s a bloodbath coming to the Texas oil industry that employs him.

Every whale is different, and some may be completely free from worry or risk, able to spend endlessly no matter the macroeconomic conditions. Not all will be, though, and outside of the economic factors, older whales face newfound health risks.

I’d be very curious to see what spending looks like in the Italian Star Citizen community of late. Is a countrywide quarantine changing spending behaviors for them? Does an overwhelmed healthcare system freak any of them out enough to curb spaceship buying? It might drive some who have the means to dig deeper in support of their psychological escape vehicle of choice. But it could probably more easily prompt some to reassess their own spending priorities.

Anyway, time will tell what sort of minority investor Calder really is, and whether his investment put Chris on a leash or a shock collar. We’ll also see just how resilient the backer base really is. No matter what the year brings, CitizenCon should be a lot of fun!

Bootcha posted:

Ladies and Gentlemen, Goons and Observers, it saddens me to inform you that one of our own has passed away.

DapperDon died from a heart attack on the way to the hospital. He is survived by his wife.

Don was a frequent contributor on the ARGCast as well as this thread, and sometimes ventured into the wilds of Reddit.

We have lost a voice in the chorus of the great Star Citizen oral history. I am ashamed to say I did not know him well enough, but many here did and made friendships with him that will affect them past his death.

Don wasn't just goon shitposting about Star Citizen. He was a dog daddy, of 4 at the same time at one point. He made animal baths. He was an avid woodcrafter. An enthusiastic snowmobiler. A lover of visual gags. And by many reports a great cook.

I am poorer for his absence, as will us in this little corner of the world.

G0RF posted:

*snip*

Rugganovich posted:

Dr told me that my main artery had been blocked since my late twenties.

Beet Wagon posted:

Oh gently caress yeah baby nothing says Star Citizen like a fuckin' minute-long traiiiiiiiiiin riiiiiiiiiiiide

https://dai.ly/x7spjmp

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWU2PD7Gcb4

Criken plays Star citizen.

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWU2PD7Gcb4

Criken plays Star citizen.

stinch posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWU2PD7Gcb4&t=330s

lol physics grids make no sense on a planet with gravity.

Dementropy posted:

Having specific female skeleton is great. That is another feature no publishers care to deliver

Brazilianpeanutwar posted:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FWU2PD7Gcb4

Criken plays Star citizen.

Dementropy posted:

Quite the opposite. As early backers we got two triple-A instead of an improved sequel of Wing Commander.
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:

I am glad Star Citizen doesn't have microtransactions. Macrotransactions FTW!

Dementropy posted:

From :

---"Um, did you somehow miss the $46 million dollar investment from some billionaire that happened like a year ago? They now own a noticable minority of the company."

---"are they actually an investor?

what are the terms of their agreement?

stop trying to make an argument on what you believe and start proving what you believe is truth.

cant trust refundians as they only fud and lie.

no basis to fact... get called out... devolve into personal attack.

thats all you people do. its boring. its old. the jokes over."



Calder didn't invest! Stop lying!

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Jonny Shiloh posted:

It's a problem they're not going to be able to solve. In "real" life of course you'd just slide down the ship and end up in a heap, but because of their stupid physics they'll have to invoke handwavium to explain it away. Also note that if that ship was upside down, the commandos would be upside down too.

What a poo poo show.

Dementropy posted:

company who makes new xray scanners rushes xray scanners.... bad things happen.... who could have predicted this....[/i]

AbstractNapper posted:

But what happens if said company has released no product in 8 years? And missed all promised deadlines to deliver such to clients by years? And has instead only given them a straw connected to a piece of string to play? And put up a bunch of screenshots for add-on equipment for the scanner that does not exist?

Only good things happen then.

Dementropy posted:

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[i]
Warning: Long post incoming.


[snip]

Dementropy posted:

:
they seem to be not putting out a roadmap to stop spoilers and the troll squad from making poo poo up again....

cant troll or fud if you have nothing and you look really stupid when your troll/fud fails.

I am sure many items are still there. we keep getting items from the backlog... but people try and complain that they are new items...

of course they are going to change the roadmap. every company I have ever worked at has changed their plans... some daily. things happen, some for the good, some for the bad. making that the lynch pin of an argument is not a good argument. especially when someone is making something new....

company who makes new xray scanners rushes xray scanners.... bad things happen.... who could have predicted this....

Sarsapariller posted:

No see they're doing all that so you won't have anything to complain about. Their entire transparency campaign is about avoiding giving information to you, a person on a games forum who sometimes complains about them. Specifically you.

And specifically in spite of their actual fans, who are 100% on board with never hearing anything good about Star Citizen as long as it denies you the opportunity to hear anything bad about Star Citizen.


god what is going on with 2020 and people being okay with having their face skin melted off or whatever as long as "The other guy" gets a scalded too. Everyone's got a fuckin' suicide pact this year

Jobbo_Fett posted:

Incredifun is the dumbest thing I've heard all week.

Dementropy posted:

Calder didn't invest! Stop lying!

Hav posted:

It was a gift! With strings attached! You haven’t seen a contract!

quote:

The investment was led by father and son Clive and Keith Calder -- or more specifically Calder senior's family office and Keith's company Snoot Entertainment.

For the $46 million, Cloud Imperium issues 113,861 new shares and 113,861 units, representing approximately 10% of the outstanding shares in its US and UK parent companies. The investment was split equally between the two territories.

In an announcement on Cloud Imperium's corporate blog, the company said it would spend the money on "marketing for Squadron 42 [the single-player campaign] and Star Citizen and various business development initiatives."

The firm added: "The investment ensures that all crowdfunded pledges and other monies contributed by the Star Citizen community can continue to be focused on development, publishing and community communication and engagement."

Crowdfunding for Star Citizen began back in 2012 with a $2.1m Kickstarter campaign, but private donations through the game's website has since brought this total past the $200 million mark.

In a joint statement, the Calders said: "We were impressed by the vision and passion that Chris [Roberts, CEO] and the formidable global team he has assembled have put into building Star Citizen, and we think that the direct and transparent relationship they have built with their players is a strong foundation for a next-generation gaming company."

posted:

As we look towards the release of Squadron 42, we have been acutely aware that having a AAA game that matches the biggest single player games out there only goes so far if no one knows about it. The games we will be competing with for attention have tens and, in some cases, hundreds of millions of dollars of advertising behind them.

Other companies in a similar situation have normally tackled this problem by partnering with a Publisher for the marketing and sales of their game. As you all know I am not in favor of putting my destiny in the hands of a third party. On the other hand, I don’t feel it would be right to go back to all of you to raise funds to market the game to other people; most of you already have a copy earmarked for you and I still strongly feel that the money brought in from our crowdfunding should continue to go to the development of Star Citizen and Squadron 42.

Because of this, we started to investigate ways to raise money to fund the upcoming marketing and release needs of Squadron 42. We turned away some approaches from Private Equity and Venture Capital because we were concerned about them fully understanding what makes our company tick and pushing us towards short term decisions.

During this process we were introduced to Clive Calder and his son Keith, who have both been interested in the confluence of entertainment with the ability to directly connect with an audience online. Clive founded the most successful independent music company, Zomba, which was home to some of the biggest music acts in the world. Keith is an independent film producer whose company Snoot Entertainment’s most recent films are the critically acclaimed Blindspotting and the Academy Award-nominated Anomalisa. During our first meeting, we got on like a house on fire, with Clive telling me about how he wished that when he built Zomba you could have connected to the fans of an artist bypassing the myriad of media gatekeepers in the way Star Citizen does, and which wasn’t possible 15 years ago. Keith and I swapped war stories about the film industry and talked about how refreshing it is to be able to utilize crowdfunding to create a project that normally would fly against what is currently considered mainstream.

During the course of these discussions it became clear to me that if Clive and Keith joined us as investors in our company, we’d have true partners that respected what we had built, but also fully understood the ins and outs and the patience required with a business based on creating entertainment. Taking in like-minded partners helps us solve the need of funding the marketing and release of Squadron 42, but also stay attuned to what makes us special.

So, it’s with this that I would like to announce that we have closed a minority investment into Cloud Imperium US & UK, from Clive’s family office and Keith’s Snoot Entertainment for $46M for approximately 10% of the shares in the Cloud Imperium US and UK companies, which is a testament to the value, future potential and longevity of the company.

As part of this process we’ve taken on two outside board members. The first is Dan Offner, an experienced lawyer and entrepreneur with over twenty years of experience in Interactive Entertainment, who is Clive and Keith’s board nominee and second is Eli Klein, a long term friend who has been acting as an advisor to the company over the past couple of years.

The control of the company and the board still firmly stays with myself as Chairman, CEO and majority shareholder.

We wouldn’t have taken anyone on board if we didn’t feel that they were fully aligned with our vision, philosophy and could add valuable insight in navigating the business challenges ahead.

This investment helps secure our independence. We may not have the resources that an Activision or EA have to launch one of their tentpole games, but we now control our own destiny in marketing Squadron 42, especially as we have a secret weapon: all of you! Between the power of the best community in gaming to help get the message out and these additional funds we will be well positioned to enable Squadron 42 to enjoy the success that it deserves.

Beyond this, this investment gives Cloud Imperium the ability to take the long view when needed and allows us to grow as a company. I couldn’t be happier.

So I would like to welcome Clive, Keith, Dan and Eli to the Cloud Imperium family, and I look forward to great success with them and all of you.

quote:

In an announcement on Cloud Imperium's corporate blog, the company said it would spend the money on "marketing for Squadron 42 [the single-player campaign] and Star Citizen and various business development initiatives."