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gently caress So yeah, this is the first time I'm finding out the resurrection statues can be used mid-fight; I thought they just refill the node without resetting the timer. I think I might have had a more difficult time with this game than what was strictly necessary. e: Update on previous page, folks!
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"So this is what it's like being married" absolutely killed me.
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Mar 14, 2020 21:09
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Owl's the only boss that will actually try to deathblow you if you get posture broken. It's pretty easy to avoid by just rolling, but when you see him trying to stomp Wolf after breaking his posture, that's what he's going for.
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Mar 14, 2020 21:17
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Oh holy poo poo! Spoilering this since I'm posting so soon after the video has gone up, but that second boss fight is one of the pre-release bosses shown off! I don't remember if she was just in footage, or in playable demos, but I have definitely seen her before and had completely forgotten until I saw that bridge!
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Mar 15, 2020 00:43
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Okay so now I can bring up the other part of what’s going on in Shura. Sekiro absolutely is aware Owl is the one who stabbed him in Hirata at this point, maybe subconsciously but he is aware. So forsaking Kuro for the Iron Code means nothing to him beyond more killing, because he never intends to follow Owl in the first place. Hence he strikes Owl down in his moment of glory/victory, in exactly the same way that Owl struck him down in Hirsta, and attempted to do so at the start of this fight. That’s why the Shura ending goes the way it does, Sekiro actively removes any relationships he has left solely for more power to slay any who oppose him. Also oh god the block pumping and passivity in that Owl fight. Yes parrying is how you win, but you could have been attacking a lot more often. The biggest trick to getting really good against enemies like Owl and Genechiro is to push them into fighting defensively. Make them parry you, because they have maybe 3 attacks out of a parry, and Owl pretty routinely does the firecracker combo which you can parry twice, then dodge through the swing and get 2-3 free hits on his backside. In general Owl is actually a really bad swordsman, you can dodge under just about every swing he makes, and he telegraphs like the world’s slowest fax machine. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 01:14 on Mar 15, 2020 |
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Mar 15, 2020 00:57
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(e: nvm, maybe it'll be shown off later)
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Mar 15, 2020 01:37
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Oh so the whole thing with the Monk is that her being weak to stealth deathblows is intentional during second phase. She is after all praying to create the mist and shadow copies of herself. However that being intentional led to unintentional stealth deathblows in phase one and the previous monk fight. Fun fact, if you miss and she does the illusion shadows again you get another attempt at the deathblow.
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Mar 15, 2020 02:03
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Sure would've been nice if Emma had come along to help Wolf kill his dad since this isn't the evil timeline.
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Mar 15, 2020 04:39
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She only fights monsters.
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Mar 15, 2020 04:40
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Lord_Magmar posted:what happened in Hirata
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Mar 15, 2020 11:30
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Owl just draws his sword? After he knelt and Sekiro started walking away, I was fully expecting us to take a shuriken to the back. And perhaps some kind of gimmick like us blocking them in-cutscene with the prosthetic arm, limiting/nullifying use of it during the fight. So, uh, the rope man seemed to pick us up and then drop us off about a hundred metres away halfway up a hillside. Is this one of those things like Olympus where although it was considered the home of the gods it was also somewhere you could very feasibly hike to without any divine assistance? Also holy poo poo, it looked like you were able to counterattack into some of Owl's windups and get him to flinch. Coming from dark souls I was really not expecting that.
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Mar 15, 2020 11:55
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anilEhilated posted:Fairly sure we haven't seen that yet; maybe spoiler tags are in order? We have, after Lady Butterfly Sekiro got stabbed in the back and here he deflects a backstab. Also the blade's are basically identical.
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Mar 15, 2020 13:12
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I'd still wait until we've seen the cutscene in question but hey, whatever floats your boat.
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Mar 15, 2020 15:51
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So what happens if you manage to die in some manner after the rope man takes you up, but before you activate the sculptor's idol? Do you have to go and get the rope man to pick you up again, or what?
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Mar 15, 2020 17:22
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anilEhilated posted:I'd still wait until we've seen the cutscene in question but hey, whatever floats your boat. Theres no other cutscene relating to what he's talking about. You're just meant to figure out that Owl was who stabbed you in Hirata because he tries to pull the same trick on you here.
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Mar 15, 2020 17:36
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azren posted:So what happens if you manage to die in some manner after the rope man takes you up, but before you activate the sculptor's idol? Do you have to go and get the rope man to pick you up again, or what? You'd have to pretty deliberately walk right by it, but my guess is it'd set your respawn point to the start of the area when you enter.
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Mar 15, 2020 17:55
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Aw, you're better at not pushing forward than I was. You didn't get to show off that Owl knows the Mikiri counter.
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Mar 15, 2020 23:30
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 We're not done with our hazy memory. There's still the question of what happened after Wolf got stabbed through the guts. Hope you enjoyed kicking Dad's rear end last time. Oh, no reason...
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Mar 21, 2020 20:03
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You still don’t have everything for all the endings, you just have to check up on the Divine Child.
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Mar 21, 2020 21:37
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I think the attack name you were trying to think of for his forward thrust is Shadowrush/Shadowfall. A lot of Owl's attacks are straight out of the Shinobi and Prosthetic texts, like the shuriken followed by the attack that even perfectly deflecting forces you to dig your sword into the ground which is the pursuing slash you can do after shuriken, firecrackers, or spear. And just like most players he loves to spam firecrackers.
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Mar 22, 2020 01:05
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I am thrilled that your audio issues have been sorted out and now you have access to tons of funny soundboard options too. I got a taste of it when you were LPing Animal Parade but I realized that I absolutely love the idea of shock jock LPs.
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Mar 22, 2020 01:43
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It looks like the description for the new rice ball is different than the original ones you got. This one bears Kuro's sadness and determination. Also some real weird time poo poo going down.
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Mar 22, 2020 04:06
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IMJack posted:It looks like the description for the new rice ball is different than the original ones you got. This one bears Kuro's sadness and determination. It's less real weird time poo poo and more a poor explanation of dream realms I think. Also absolutely you never killed Owl in the past, this is a mental creation of his memory with Sekiro visiting it. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 07:26 on Mar 22, 2020 |
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Mar 22, 2020 06:34
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The Buddha works in mysterious ways.
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Mar 22, 2020 09:04
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EponymousMrYar posted:The Buddha works in mysterious ways. This is not even a joke. It's almost a direct quote from the game.
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Mar 22, 2020 09:25
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Lord_Magmar posted:It's less real weird time poo poo and more a poor explanation of dream realms I think. I'd also guess that Owl was never that good a fighter in reality either.
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Mar 22, 2020 18:27
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Dzhay posted:I'd also guess that Owl was never that good a fighter in reality either. If you rolled with Isshin you are likely to be pretty skilled in the art of making men into ghosts.
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Mar 22, 2020 19:00
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Owl was very good at killing people, maybe not at taking them in a head to head fight
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Mar 23, 2020 05:44
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Owl definitely tries to avoid fighting as much as possible and instead just stabs people in the back. A master shinobi indeed.
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Mar 23, 2020 06:09
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Yeah it very obviously worked until he tried to do that to the guy who'd spent his whole life watching him do that.
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Mar 23, 2020 06:28
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Hell, it even worked on that guy the first time.
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a cartoon duck posted:Hell, it even worked on that guy the first time. Yup, and it only failed the second time because said guy was expecting it the second time due to literal immortality letting him die the first time to it. Owl definitely isn't a bad fighter, he's a master ninja after all, he is a bad swordsman though. I've mentioned before but his sword skills are the worst in the game outside the literal headless zombie ape. He telegraphs for years, his mix-ups aren't really all that mixed up and you can dodge under just about everything he does because he doesn't really aim down. It speaks to me of someone who has learnt the techniques but uses them so rarely he hasn't modified them for his situation, specifically his size compared to everyone he is fighting. Likely he usually is either using backstabs or landing on people for single hit clean kills.
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Mar 24, 2020 03:58
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I know your body can start crapping out pretty quickly, but it still feels kind of weird that this old guy's "prime" was three years ago.
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Dr Christmas posted:I know your body can start crapping out pretty quickly, but it still feels kind of weird that this old guy's "prime" was three years ago. Not exactly a job with a long life expectancy. The fact he's that old and still kicking that much rear end is terrifying
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Bellmaker posted:Not exactly a job with a long life expectancy. The fact he's that old and still kicking that much rear end is terrifying Yeah for context I think Owl and Lady Butterfly are meant to be roughly the same age, and the only human characters in game older than them so far are Isshin (who is literally dying of old age complications as far as we can tell) and maybe the Sculptor (who is also pretty poorly).
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Do we know how old Wolf himself is? He looked like a pretty young kid when Owl found him on the battlefield, and the intro cinematic says that "some twenty years" passed since Isshin took over Ashina and the start of the game. So he must be, what, somewhere around twenty five to thirty, depending on how old he's supposed to be during the intro cinematic? And now that i'm thinking of it, is it ever said why Wolf was on that battlefield where Owl found him? I assumed that he must just be a war orphan scavenging the battlefield, but knowing this game I wouldn't be surprised if there was some deeper lore about it.
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Mar 25, 2020 05:03
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Isshin's generation were a whole pile of absolute badasses, but he and the old ninjas are all that's left and they have one foot in the grave. They lived hard. Wolf looks older than he is, because Kuro's power is wearing him out.
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Mar 25, 2020 05:18
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ousire posted:Do we know how old Wolf himself is? He looked like a pretty young kid when Owl found him on the battlefield, and the intro cinematic says that "some twenty years" passed since Isshin took over Ashina and the start of the game. So he must be, what, somewhere around twenty five to thirty, depending on how old he's supposed to be during the intro cinematic?
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ousire posted:And now that i'm thinking of it, is it ever said why Wolf was on that battlefield where Owl found him? I assumed that he must just be a war orphan scavenging the battlefield, but knowing this game I wouldn't be surprised if there was some deeper lore about it. It was cold and he was looking for a horse to climb into.
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wiegieman posted:Isshin's generation were a whole pile of absolute badasses, but he and the old ninjas are all that's left and they have one foot in the grave. They lived hard. There may be a causal link between 'being an absolute badass' and 'being one of the only survivors of your generation'. Everyone who couldn't kick at that level is already dead. Edit: I'm looking at these actuarial charts from twenty years ago and the leading cause of death for people aged 15-35 is listed as "Isshin". The Lone Badger fucked around with this message at 06:22 on Mar 25, 2020 |
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