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Sirotan
Oct 17, 2006

Sirotan is a seal.


BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

This says 160,000
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/03/14/health-system-coronavirus-preparation-129066

60k ICU vents and 100k "more basic ones" which I'm guessing refers to anesthesia machines? Not ideal but not as sphincter-clenching as 13,000 good lord

Thank you this makes me feel much less terrible.

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Ultraklystron
May 19, 2010

Unsafe At Every Speed

Raku posted:

I guess this is a reflection of how little preventative care we do?

Yes, and it's also a reflection of the inefficiency of a captive private market. Every HMO wants their own stuff (rather than being able to assess the real baseline needs of an area,) even if it sits empty a lot of the time. In this one instance, it might save lives (rather than costing them by keeping the cost of healthcare high,) though in practice, there could be many people without insurance who wait so long for care for fear of the cost that it won't matter that the extra beds are there because they'll be too far gone by the time they seek care.

Dinosaurs! posted:

I’m probably just being a conspiracy theorist, but the UK’s callous plan sounds like a setup for “Look how poorly the NHS handled this. We need free market solutions!” a year from now.

Agreed TBH. It's very much the kind of move outlined in Naomi Klein's book "Shock Doctrine," where in she outlines how events like this are exploited to seize power creating so-called "disaster capitalism."

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

Anne Whateley posted:

I got 3 pounds of onions because they go with everything. Pot roast? Onions. Pork roast? Onions. Chicken noodle soup? Onions. Omelet? Onions.

A silver lining of working from home

well they had still plenty of peppers and shallots and garlic other lovely things that can be used for flavoring those dishes

also interesting was all the bread was gone of course but there was still plenty of flour and yeast so looks like we'll have bread anyway

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



Facebook Aunt posted:

Luckily the UK has volunteered to be the "do nothing" control group, so we'll be able to compare them to various varieties of "do something" to determine the efficacy of various approaches.

"We didn't Brexit to be told what to do in Spain!"

https://twitter.com/VivaElReyDeEsp/status/1239211245070422016

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

Who wants a May subscription to toilet papers only $0.63CAD per 100 sheets

greazeball
Feb 4, 2003



This explains a lot too

https://twitter.com/nytimesworld/status/1238818486568321025

B_sketchy
May 31, 2019

Looks like my local Chili's and Applebee's are both packed. FML.

William Henry Hairytaint
Oct 29, 2011



HAHAHA FOUND TOILET PAPER

numberoneposter
Feb 19, 2014

How much do I cum? The answer might surprise you!

lmao

Beachcomber
May 21, 2007

Another day in paradise.


Slippery Tilde

sweet thursday posted:

Who wants a May subscription to toilet papers only $0.63CAD per 100 sheets



This is normal price, though?

Edit: oh wait, I get it now

Beachcomber fucked around with this message at 00:56 on Mar 16, 2020

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

Beachcomber posted:

This is normal price, though?

As long as you dont poop in April

Blistex
Oct 30, 2003

Macho Business
Donkey Wrestler
The province of Alberta just announced that all schools and daycares are to be shut down.

tater_salad
Sep 15, 2007


B_sketchy posted:

Looks like my local Chili's and Applebee's are both packed. FML.

Driving my kids home to their mom's I noticed a lot of Boomer eateries were packed

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



https://twitter.com/StevenTDennis/status/1239332229152636928

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

greazeball posted:

"We didn't Brexit to be told what to do in Spain!"

https://twitter.com/VivaElReyDeEsp/status/1239211245070422016

The Ugly Angloian.

speng31b
May 8, 2010


Does not apply to day to day ops of schools + businesses.

Celexi
Nov 25, 2006

Slava Ukraini!


Please come travel and spread the product placement virus

Hopper
Dec 28, 2004

BOOING! BOOING!
Grimey Drawer
poo poo escalated quickly in Germany.
Wednesday: "we won't blanket order to close all schools and borders will stay open"
Friday: "all schools and Kindergartens in Bavaria are closing until 4/20. Bars and restaurants stay open"
Saturday: " Germany closes borders to Austria, Italy... "
Sunday: "all bars, clubs, looks and non essential shops close Wednesday"
Monday: state of emergency wil be declared for Bavaria

Forgot to mention: of course there were Bavaria-wide elections today, which HAD to take place, but now that these are over we can lock everything down....nothing to see move along.

Hopper fucked around with this message at 01:18 on Mar 16, 2020

LionArcher
Mar 29, 2010


Lil Swamp Booger Baby posted:

Onions are classic useless folk remedies.

I bought a bunch because they are great in a lot of dishes!

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

First apple now my coffee????


https://twitter.com/fxhedgers/status/1239344985180229632?s=21

What is this poo poo?!?

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!
All bars and restaurants are also closing here in IL according to our governor. Good! Maybe people will STAY HOME

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
I've been using this site as a dashboard. This morning it was counting 6000.deaths, so far. Right now it's over 800k.

Hope that's a glitch.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/

edit - 5 minutes later, the death toll is over 90 million. Either China is posting some updated numbers, or the site is glitching.

GORDON fucked around with this message at 01:32 on Mar 16, 2020

hellotoothpaste
Dec 21, 2006

I dare you to call it a perm again..

MarcusSA posted:

First apple now my coffee????


https://twitter.com/fxhedgers/status/1239344985180229632?s=21

What is this poo poo?!?

Can we collect some sources that aren't some random whomever the gently caress on Twitter please?

speng31b
May 8, 2010

hellotoothpaste posted:

Can we collect some sources that aren't some random whomever the gently caress on Twitter please?

no, that isn't possible anymore

MarcusSA
Sep 23, 2007

hellotoothpaste posted:

Can we collect some sources that aren't some random whomever the gently caress on Twitter please?

I hate the way he posts but he’s been accurate on everything.

sweet thursday
Sep 16, 2012

speng31b posted:

no, that isn't possible anymore
@whomeverthefuck has broken important stories before the mass media

flubber nuts
Oct 5, 2005


GORDON posted:

I've been using this site as a dashboard. This morning it was counting 6000.deaths, so far. Right now it's over 800k.

Hope that's a glitch.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/

holy gently caress! are all these map tracker sites just getting pounded by a million f5’s a minute? John Hopkins just updated for the first time in like 6 hours, 3,500 in the us. going fast now.

Ugly In The Morning
Jul 1, 2010
Pillbug

GORDON posted:

I've been using this site as a dashboard. This morning it was counting 6000.deaths, so far. Right now it's over 800k.

Hope that's a glitch.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/coronavirus-death-toll/

edit - 5 minutes later, the death toll is over 90 million. Either China is posting some updated numbers, or the site is glitching.

Either it’s glitched, or theres some good news...



Negative 32 million active cases!

GI_Clutch
Aug 22, 2000

by Fluffdaddy
Dinosaur Gum
drat, just use Google, people. It can link you to news articles, not just tweets. They aren't closing everything but drive-thru windows.

https://finance.yahoo.com/news/starbucks-stores-in-us-and-canada-plans-for-coronavirus-covid-19-214834908.html

quote:

Starbucks (SBUX) said on Sunday it would halt in-store customer seating in North America for at least two weeks, while limiting hours and shuttering a few shops in high traffic areas, in a bid to help reduce spreading of the coronavirus.

In a memo sent to more than 220,000 partners across the U.S. and Canada, Starbucks plans to limit customers to carry out orders only, and will temporarily close company-operated stores in “high-social gathering locations” like shopping malls and university campuses.

B_sketchy
May 31, 2019

hellotoothpaste posted:

Can we collect some sources that aren't some random whomever the gently caress on Twitter please?

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/starbucks-coronavirus-stores-drive-thru-only-increase-social-distancing-definition-prevent-covid-19-closed/

3 days old news

Zugzwang
Jan 2, 2005

You have a kind of sick desperation in your laugh.


Ramrod XTreme

BIG-DICK-BUTT-gently caress posted:

There is little reason to believe that the handful of suspected "reinfections" are real re-infections and not just false positives caused by uninformed testing methods. Calling the risk of re-infection "not uncommon" is just plain wrong.
I was basing that comment off of this guy, a virologist who runs a lab at the Francis Crick Institute:
https://twitter.com/bealelab/status/1238093257281806338

I'd admittedly like a better source than A Guy On Twitter but reliable info on this isn't super-easy to come by.

In any case, my larger point was that "herd immunity" is lightspeed stupid because we don't know if long-term immunity to this virus is even a thing.

Zugzwang fucked around with this message at 01:41 on Mar 16, 2020

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

CJacobs posted:

All bars and restaurants are also closing here in IL according to our governor. Good! Maybe people will STAY HOME

here in CA the governor made a similar announcement, all bars closed, except restaurants are apparently allowed to operate at 50% capacity as long as they seat everyone far apart which seems kind of dumb considering customers will still be interacting directly with servers and handing plates, cash, and credit cards back and forth etc. also everyone over 65 must stay home

i agree with these measures but also kind of hosed up to put them out there without being accompanied by things like a moratorium on rent for the millions of people who depend on tips and wages to pay it, or any kind of state run service for all of the 65+ and compromised people to get groceries since many of them dont have any way to do so. if i'm still feeling ok after 14 days im going to volunteer to deliver food

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy
"Moratorium on rent" only works if there's a moratorium on banks to not require the property owner make a mortgage payment that month.

I'm also curious how any of these restaurants are going to survive making 15% profit and they just had 75% of their business shut down. They also pay rent/mortgages.

Earwicker
Jan 6, 2003

GORDON posted:

"Moratorium on rent" only works if there's a moratorium on banks to not require the property owner make a mortgage payment that month.

yes there should absolutely be a moratorium on mortgages as well

GORDON posted:

I'm also curious how any of these restaurants are going to survive making 15% profit and they just had 75% of their business shut down. They also pay rent/mortgages.

probably most of them won't. at the current rates there's no way this poo poo will be over in two months. and even with the "50% capacity" rule, people are going to stop going out

Earwicker fucked around with this message at 01:45 on Mar 16, 2020

SO DEMANDING
Dec 27, 2003

Massachusetts banning gatherings of 25 or more people, restaurants and bars are prohibited from serving on site, can only serve via take out or delivery. Goes into effect Tuesday, scheduled to end 4/17

https://www.wcvb.com/article/gov-charlie-baker-massachusetts-covid-19-coronavirus-update-march-15-2020/31647097

Checked my work email, company is now stating that anyone who can do their job from home must do so. I'm actually a subcontractor and my position puts me in kind of a grey area so we'll see what tomorrow brings :w00t:

CJacobs
Apr 17, 2011

Reach for the moon!

Earwicker posted:

i agree with these measures but also kind of hosed up to put them out there without being accompanied by things like a moratorium on rent for the millions of people who depend on tips and wages to pay it, or any kind of state run service for all of the 65+ and compromised people to get groceries since many of them dont have any way to do so. if i'm still feeling ok after 14 days im going to volunteer to deliver food

It would be nice. This will be a major living example of why home & living infrastructure is busted as gently caress here in the US, much like healthcare.

I would blow Dane Cook
Dec 26, 2008
https://twitter.com/davcarretta/status/1238791068071661568

The obituary pages in Italy

GORDON
Jan 1, 2006

by Fluffdaddy

Earwicker posted:

yes there should absolutely be a moratorium on mortgages as well

I have no idea what the law or order would look like that would invalidate the signed contracts that are every mortgage in the country.

precision
May 7, 2006

by VideoGames
I just got a new job

...

...

Managing a restaurant. Welp.

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shovelbum
Oct 21, 2010

Fun Shoe

GORDON posted:

I have no idea what the law or order would look like that would invalidate the signed contracts that are every mortgage in the country.

we have an emergency powers framework designed to refight ww2 at the same time as fighting a total thermonuclear war

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