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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
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80 | 21.33% |
| D. Butler |
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| A. Rayner |
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| I. Murray |
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5 | 1.33% |
| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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Lobster God posted:https://twitter.com/TomTugendhat/status/1239312624346693633?s=19 Ventilators only have a 5 day lead time on Alibaba. More seriously though, what's the patent situation on them? If you had a manufacturing facility and wanted to start cracking them out is the government providing a (opensource/expired patent/royalty free) design or are you expected to come up with your own? e; FTSE 100 is a stock exchange that hasn't been doing too peachy recently.
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CareyB posted:And what about the hundreds of countries where the virus is spreading that aren’t being locked down? They're also going to suffer massive numbers of preventable deaths until they do.
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Mar 16, 2020 01:14
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Angepain posted:new goon project. how hard can making a ventilator be. i'll make the wiki 1.  2.  3. ???? 4. Profit!
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Mar 16, 2020 01:15
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CareyB posted:And what about the hundreds of countries where the virus is spreading that aren’t being locked down? Well unless they have categorically stated that they're not going to, that's not much of an argument. Countries that haven't until now are starting to lock down. Egypt, Saudi Arabia, UAE etc are beginning to lock down. Qatar is locking down Doha except for cargo and transit flights. Egypt has closed schools and universities and has now gone as far as to remove compulsion on Friday Prayers (which is very radical as until now it has been compulsory for mosques to hold Friday Prayers). It's only just begun to hit other African countries https://www.aljazeera.com/news/2020/03/coronavirus-spreads-african-countries-200313153229327.html
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Mar 16, 2020 01:23
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it'll be like the "we need to fit this into this using only this" scene from apollo 13 but making hospital equipment out of anime merchandise
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Mar 16, 2020 01:24
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The other thing about poo poo like ventilators and all medical equipment is they need to be reliable. Can't wait to wipe out entire wards at a time as British Brand Ventilators start failing and suffocating everyone.
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Mar 16, 2020 01:25
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Don't know if it might help but after I get back home tomorrow evening, I'm going to start doing 'lung strengthening exercises' I found online and maybe drop a few kg to relieve pressure on heart and lungs!
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Mar 16, 2020 01:28
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I know the two are not the same, but honestly the last 72 hours reminded me of the Kursk disaster in 2000. When it happened, the Russian government stuck with its orthodox policy of not accepting any help from outside, basically treating the deaths of those on that submarine like oh well, you know what you signed up for. Then they made an error. They said that they head knocking from inside the sunk submarine and it gave people hope. And then they said we'll do daily briefings. With every single hour that passed more and more people started getting antsy and started openly saying why the gently caress the government is doing nothing. It seemed the pressure was released when a mother of one of the submariners started screaming at a briefing. She basically lost it and had to be restrained and forcibly removed. A lot of time has passed since then, but I still remember that woman's screams. I know the British press don't have any integrity, and the British people would form a polite line and would let the government sodomize them, but I sincerely hope someone loses their poo poo at the briefing tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.
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Mar 16, 2020 01:49
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Angepain posted:it'll be like the "we need to fit this into this using only this" scene from apollo 13 but making hospital equipment out of anime merchandise
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Mar 16, 2020 01:55
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I'm less optimistic in that I hope after it goes to hell people screaming at least get on the news in some remotely accurate fashion.
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Mar 16, 2020 01:56
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Don't know if it might help but after I get back home tomorrow evening, I'm going to start doing 'lung strengthening exercises' I found online and maybe drop a few kg to relieve pressure on heart and lungs! Pretty sure dropping a few kg in a single evening is inadvisable in these times of low toilet paper.
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Mar 16, 2020 02:01
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bornbytheriver posted:I know the two are not the same, but honestly the last 72 hours reminded me of the Kursk disaster in 2000. When it happened, the Russian government stuck with its orthodox policy of not accepting any help from outside, basically treating the deaths of those on that submarine like oh well, you know what you signed up for. Then they made an error. They said that they head knocking from inside the sunk submarine and it gave people hope. And then they said we'll do daily briefings. With every single hour that passed more and more people started getting antsy and started openly saying why the gently caress the government is doing nothing. It seemed the pressure was released when a mother of one of the submariners started screaming at a briefing. She basically lost it and had to be restrained and forcibly removed. A lot of time has passed since then, but I still remember that woman's screams. Nothing can change the hearts or minds of the gammon, not even the suffering or deaths of their own family and friends. It's a brain problem
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Mar 16, 2020 02:04
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OwlFancier posted:I'm less optimistic in that I hope after it goes to hell people screaming at least get on the news in some remotely accurate fashion. Multiple people loudly coughing in the audience would be good. If anyone asks just say "herd immunity, innit?"
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Mar 16, 2020 02:20
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Continuing the eastern european updates for Czech Republic, a full quarantine has been declared with police enforcement (meaning people are supposed to stay at home and police can ask them where they are going and fine them if it's not home/work/shopping/exercise), all borders have been closed, almost all shops have been closed except for licensed tradesmen, pretty much anywhere where people gather, like theatres/cinemas/libraries/concert halls/universities/hotels/restaurants/pubs has been closed. All with zero deaths (though 2 patients are in critical condition) and somewhere around 300 cases. Now to be fair I think it's among the most strict in the world. Wonder how effective it will be.
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Mar 16, 2020 02:41
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Good on them, hopefully they're also trying to ramp up care capacity as much as possible too.
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Mar 16, 2020 02:47
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FTSE100 futures are down ~7.2%, will likely trigger breakers on opening.
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Mar 16, 2020 03:07
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I wonder what happens if it hits 0. Does that mean capitalism died?
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Mar 16, 2020 03:12
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OwlFancier posted:I wonder what happens if it hits 0. Does that mean capitalism died? buy Buy BUY
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Mar 16, 2020 03:13
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I definitely like the idea of the stock numbers as the boss health bar for capitalism.
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Mar 16, 2020 03:21
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typical really. you spend ages chipping away with your Electoral Vanguard fighter when some plagueomancer casually drops a save-or-suck DoT, the boss flubs the dice roll and just keels over
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Mar 16, 2020 03:26
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I just had a thought and a big lol. I wonder how that lad from the article who made thousands on the stock market and bought a beemer rather than go to college is feeling right about now.
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Mar 16, 2020 03:35
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I mean a degree is gonna be useless in the post-coronabrexit wasteland, and you can weld some spikes onto a beemer pretty easy. So p. good I'd think.
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Mar 16, 2020 03:42
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You could buy a corsa and a lot more spikes for that money. And it probably already comes with half the body kit installed and holes pre drilled in the muffler.
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Mar 16, 2020 03:46
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Is it possible at all that the coronavirus is actually just a parasitic lifeform that coerces its host to pass national legislation that actively promotes the spread of itself?
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Mar 16, 2020 03:51
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qhat posted:Is it possible at all that the coronavirus is actually just a parasitic lifeform that coerces its host to pass national legislation that actively promotes the spread of itself? No, you're thinking of the Tories.
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Mar 16, 2020 03:56
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Sorry for pulling that out from a bit back but the fact that the vast majority won't need to be hospitalised is right. 20% does not a vast majority make. Not that it helps matters much since 20% of 70% of 66 million is still far too loving many for the NHS to cope with if they flood in.
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Mar 16, 2020 05:11
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I mean, I don't know if I'd call 80% a "vast majority". It is a majority, yes.
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Mar 16, 2020 05:17
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It seems like every year I spend away from the UK the more glad I get that I got the gently caress out when I did. This virus is going to leave behind piles of bodies in every neighbourhood across Boris' Britain.
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Mar 16, 2020 06:08
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WhatEvil posted:I mean, I don't know if I'd call 80% a "vast majority". It is a majority, yes. 80% won't need to go to hospital though which is what the original quote was about. If Covid-19 was hospitalising the "vast majority" of people who contract it then this would be a whole different ballgame.
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Mar 16, 2020 06:11
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On the other hand it would solve climate change if that were the case, though it might also end civlization.
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Mar 16, 2020 06:15
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https://twitter.com/_paulmonaghan/status/1239244749468565504?s=21 Sorry for the poorly linked tweet. But Scottish schools preparing to shut for up to 4 months. How the hell can we manage that, I’d normally palm the kids off to grandparents, but that’s not feasible now. Thankfully mine are only Primary age, but could you imagine if you’re sitting your Highers.
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Mar 16, 2020 08:03
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They’re all preparing for 16 weeks, Arlene dropped that bombshell over the weekend, it’s just that Boris isn’t being transparent about it. Its probably not a coincidence that those 16 weeks take you roughly to the end of the academic year, and that nets them another 6 weeks of summer on top, along with the 3 weeks of term/half term holidays. The longer they delay the more of it sits within existing childcare arrangements and arranged leave.
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Mar 16, 2020 08:13
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Total Meatlove posted:The longer they delay the more of it sits within existing childcare arrangements and arranged leave. “Existing childcare”, which is usually grandparents. Who hopefully haven’t died.
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Mar 16, 2020 08:18
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Oodles posted:“Existing childcare”, which is usually grandparents. Who hopefully haven’t died. Absolutely, it’s hosed and parents in key workers groups, looked after children provision, kids on free school meals, provision for teachers/staff with underlying health issues, the DfE needs to be leading on this and it’s just not. On top of that, there are a lot of international students being pulled from the UK by their parents/ leaving themselves, but no guidance on whether their visas will expire.
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Mar 16, 2020 08:22
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Total Meatlove posted:They’re all preparing for 16 weeks, Arlene dropped that bombshell over the weekend, it’s just that Boris isn’t being transparent about it. Imagine having to sit major exams under those conditions. If I had to motivate myself to study from home for four months before my GCSEs I'd have failed the lot of them.
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Mar 16, 2020 08:38
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stev posted:Imagine having to sit major exams under those conditions. If I had to motivate myself to study from home for four months before my GCSEs I'd have failed the lot of them. There was talk that the uni exams could be sat from home. So, it’s safe to say everyone would cheat.
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Mar 16, 2020 08:50
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I suspect I have it - I felt rubbish yesterday then a little better and thought hey, that was quick. This morning I feel like there's boiling dog poo poo pulsing through my head and every time I cough it gets worse. My fever has also got worse I keep trying to think about how this will affect the economy (lol) as if nobodies getting paid for anything - then what?
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Mar 16, 2020 08:54
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Munin posted:Sorry for pulling that out from a bit back but the fact that the vast majority won't need to be hospitalised is right. 20% does not a vast majority make. You're right, i incorrectly thought that some of the 80% of mild cases still needed hospitalisation, and that the 20% was just "needed supplemental oxygen". Checking the Chinese figures again though, that's not true.
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Mar 16, 2020 09:13
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blunt posted:FTSE100 futures are down ~7.2%, will likely trigger breakers on opening. The LSE doesn't have an exchange-wide circuit breaker in the same way the NYSE does, but individual (per-company) breakers triggered on more obscure measures.
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I'm freaking out a little bit reading the British government's response to corona, and seeing my family post on facebook. I've been living in Norway the past 9 years and we are on complete lockdown, meanwhile the rest of my family over there are just merrily skipping around like nothing is happening, and doing nothing to isolate my grandmother. I tried to talk to my aunt about it and she said that they're just taking life as usual with care and listening to the government. It's surreal, I'm doing nothing out of the usual by the standards here, but to my british relatives I might as well be walking around in a burlap sack screaming that the end is nigh.
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