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Who is your first pick in the deputy leadership race? This poll is closed. |
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| R. Allin-Khan |
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6 | 1.60% |
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80 | 21.33% |
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| I. Murray |
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| P. Flaps |
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177 | 47.20% |
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In Sheffield there's a bar called Meltdown. A few friends who were cancelling various events there today talked to the manager. He said bars and restaurants have insurance in place already so that they get a payout if the government forces them to shut. So by not enforcing it the government is saving the insurance companies from having to payout. Guess which party has a looooooong history of donations and ties to insurance industry? Go on. One guess! Daww did you miss his face? Edit: 111 is the number you can ring to be rung back and told off for bothering them about your corona symptoms. Catte tax: 3 legged tripod Catte exploring bbq in sunshine while supervised  Mebh fucked around with this message at 21:24 on Mar 16, 2020 |
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I was just chatting to someone about how stupid it is to tell people not to visit pubs and bars but not order them closed and then, lo and behold, revealed above the reason why is the usual grubby Tory poo poo housing
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Mar 16, 2020 21:22
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We've all been told to work from home from tomorrow and not to come into the office. Gonna be fun trying to share my one PC with my partner who also needs to work from home.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:22
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Mebh posted:In Sheffield there's a bar called Meltdown. A few friends who were cancelling various events there today talked to the manager. He said bars and restaurants have insurance in place already so that they get a payout if the government forces them to shut. It'll probably also mean the Tory supporting big pub chain bosses can buy up all the independents and small chains that go down first, because they'll manage to survive with special crony handouts if they hold on long enough.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:24
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Got a text on the work group Whatsapp that they're having a meeting tomorrow based on the new advice from the government today, and will let us know what the result is tomorrow. We're a small company of 14 people - conceivably most of us can do at least some of our work from home, so I guess we'll see what happens. If this thing goes on for months as it's almost certainly likely to, work is gonna dry up though.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:25
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https://www.theguardian.com/business/2020/mar/16/travelex-owner-at-risk-as-81m-of-undisclosed-cheques-emerge posted:Those problems have been compounded by news that the company discovered $100m worth of undisclosed cheques that predated its stock market flotation in 2018
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Mar 16, 2020 21:26
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NotJustANumber99 posted:When they die you get all their stuff anyway. this isn't funny
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Mar 16, 2020 21:30
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wow so suddenly it makes perfect sense why they aren't ordering anything to close. how loving evil.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:30
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Thanks to self isolation I'm going to be building some model kits and playing Fire Emblem: 3 Houses 
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Mar 16, 2020 21:30
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Welp I just tried to log on to my work server from home and it's already crashing with hundreds/thousands of people trying to do the same. Guess I won't be getting any work done this week.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:32
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peanut- posted:I'm poo poo at reading this stuff. Is this saying if we carry on as we are, then >500k people dead by the end of July? And substantively reducing that will require controls to be in place for two years? yes, and they seem to be assuming a lower r0 and mortality rate than we're seeing in italy, who acted faster and have a stronger healthcare system
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Mar 16, 2020 21:33
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hemale in pain posted:wow so suddenly it makes perfect sense why they aren't ordering anything to close. how loving evil. I hope it doesn't work, it feels like there is a new and ugly feeling in the air at the moment. Everywhere feels more quiet and yet more tense. I think that they may well end up closing stuff anyway quite soon. At least I hope so.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:34
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Communist Thoughts posted:yes, and they seem to be assuming a lower r0 and mortality rate than we're seeing in italy, who acted faster and have a stronger healthcare system tbf we probably should have a lower CFR all else aside because Italy's population is old AF and they smoke like hell, but that just means when we manage to exceed their CFR it'll be all the more damning.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:35
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hemale in pain posted:wow so suddenly it makes perfect sense why they aren't ordering anything to close. how loving evil. It's going to annihilate theatres within a couple of months. Literally they will all be bankrupt. Pubs and bars just as fast, probably cinemas not long after that. Telling people not to go without actually banning it is a death warrant to the entire arts and culture industry.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:36
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peanut- posted:It's going to annihilate theatres within a couple of months. Literally they will all be bankrupt. Pubs and bars just as fast, probably cinemas not long after that. All sound like prime candidates for redevelopment to me!
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Mar 16, 2020 21:38
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Ms Adequate posted:tbf we probably should have a lower CFR all else aside because Italy's population is old AF and they smoke like hell, but that just means when we manage to exceed their CFR it'll be all the more damning. I'm gonna go ahead and guess based on nothing but stereotypes that the average italian is healthier than the average brit
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Mar 16, 2020 21:39
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It's gonna be wild to watch the tories try to figure out how to restart the economy without spending any money.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:40
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Hopefully the pressure from the other affected nations is enough to pressure ours into closing those businesses and letting them claim on the insurance and also provide the security against peoples bills, mortgages, etc. I’m not holding my breath though
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Mar 16, 2020 21:40
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Cool cool https://twitter.com/jonsnowC4/status/1239538894124855298
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Mar 16, 2020 21:43
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Ms Adequate posted:tbf we probably should have a lower CFR all else aside because Italy's population is old AF and they smoke like hell, but that just means when we manage to exceed their CFR it'll be all the more damning. compared to the famously healthy brits they're not that much older, 21% over 65 in italy, 18% for us. the demographics are skewed cause we have a crapload of under-14s by comparison. going by https://www.indexmundi.com/italy/age_structure.html vs https://www.indexmundi.com/united_kingdom/age_structure.html i assume they will just stop publishing the mortality numbers during out 10% mortality speedrun
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Mar 16, 2020 21:44
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sinky posted:I wonder what the [65+] figures are like now that they've learned they'll be Just got off the phone to my mum: "Oh, so you've been staying in because of this Corona business? I've just been going out and meeting people, same as usual. You think perhaps I shouldn't be doing that? It's funny, I just called your brother and he said the same thing to me!" I love my mum but her and her Boomer friends are blatantly tempting death and don't even seem to realise it, it's really weird
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Mar 16, 2020 21:44
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Luxury Tent Carpet posted:Hopefully the pressure from the other affected nations is enough to pressure ours into closing those businesses and letting them claim on the insurance and also provide the security against peoples bills, mortgages, etc. they will have to do so, same as they will have to start community testing. none of this poo poo is going to last its just going to take a week each time for the gov to stumble from disaster to disaster we don't really have a central government anymore is what this is revealing. we basically replaced it with the EU then cut away all the remaining bits over the last 30 years.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:46
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I had a thought (yes, really): you know why the government won't ban mass gatherings - because of all the insurance claims. It's not so much to protect the insurance industry but the REINSURANCE business - which is the backup for insurance companies and they have to pay out to all their wealth if required - where I bet many of the government have their riches (and stand to lose a huge amount of money and face financial ruin). An example is Lloyds Names.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:46
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Translation: whoops we did a bribery and the police proceedings would make the company unsaleable
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Mar 16, 2020 21:47
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Pistol_Pete posted:Just got off the phone to my mum: "Oh, so you've been staying in because of this Corona business? I've just been going out and meeting people, same as usual. You think perhaps I shouldn't be doing that? It's funny, I just called your brother and he said the same thing to me!" Yeah just got that into my dads head today, "i go home and stay home" Yes "oh, but my shopin" I'll be getting that for you. He's 68 and just about died from a blood clot issue, thank gently caress hes listening at last. Took a few days but eventaully managed to hammer it in there. If you and your bro both saying the same thing she'll hopefully get the message as well.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:49
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The Question IRL posted:This just reminds me of the scene from Tramnsformers: The Movie where Astrotrain* says they have to jettison weight to reach Cybertron. Because Astrotrain (and his proper name is SPACEBUS) still needs fuel to run, and the Autobots and Decepticons have been beating the poo poo out of each other for four million years because they don't have enough, so making himself lighter and more fuel efficient is a good idea. Of course, all the Decepticons then having a ruckus to decide the new leader once they've kicked the battered ones out of the airlock probably didn't help matters either
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Mar 16, 2020 21:49
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some fun graphs https://twitter.com/jburnmurdoch/status/1239652881051136001 early days yet i imagine but love how UK is currently slightly below the normal growth rate for "cases" but above the growth rate for deaths. cool cool
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Mar 16, 2020 21:54
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Communist Thoughts posted:this isn't funny Sorry. I meant like in general. Not due to this virus. So you shouldn't feel bad about getting a handout from someone whose loaded when you're hosed. But yeah. Soz.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:54
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Pistol_Pete posted:Just got off the phone to my mum: "Oh, so you've been staying in because of this Corona business? I've just been going out and meeting people, same as usual. You think perhaps I shouldn't be doing that? It's funny, I just called your brother and he said the same thing to me!" My 60 odd year old mum is usually a total hypochondriac clean freak with severe anxiety issues but she quite plainly doesn't understand how serious this is and I had to very firmly tell her going to the gym was an awful idea. I'm grateful to have parents who do at least seem to listen to me now occasionally and they're now I hope going to limit their time outside. While there's certainly a lot of of traditional stubbornness amongst that generation, it's being made exponentially worse by a completely irresponsible government policy implicitly downplaying the risks. If you don't use social media or forums like this etc and only rely on traditional newspaper/tv bulletins, you're absolutely hosed. I didn't think I could get more angry at these scumbags, but it turns out I was wrong. I've never seen such a brazen disregard for human life. Of course that has always been there, but they're not even bothering with the mask with this. There are going to be a lot of people missing loved ones - particularly grandparents and parents - next Christmas, and I will never forgive them for it. Tories do not need to be beaten in debate and won over, they need to be physically stopped before they kill every single one of us and see the world burn. e: Sorry, I'm just extremely angry and anxious and so loving bored
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Mar 16, 2020 21:55
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99% sure I don't have the dreaded covid because I have no fever and hardly a cough but I do have the mother of all sore throats and finding paracetamol is really loving difficult right now
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Mar 16, 2020 21:55
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baka kaba posted:He can rerecord all his press conferences later for posterity and change them so he's presenting policies and offering good advice He won't need to, the BBC will do it for him.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:55
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Pistol_Pete posted:Just got off the phone to my mum: "Oh, so you've been staying in because of this Corona business? I've just been going out and meeting people, same as usual. You think perhaps I shouldn't be doing that? It's funny, I just called your brother and he said the same thing to me!" How are they meant to know, seriously? I'm finding out from this thread and Twitter that credible academic studies show us with half a million dead boomers in 3 months if nothing changes. Meanwhile if you watch the news and the Prime Minister you're getting "think about avoiding crowded areas for a while. Maybe don't go to the theatre. But we're not actually going to order you not to, just think about not doing it."
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Mar 16, 2020 21:55
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Angepain posted:some fun graphs UK will finally be best at something dying NotJustANumber99 posted:Sorry. I meant like in general. Not due to this virus. i thought it was funny
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Mar 16, 2020 21:57
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Julio Cruz posted:99% sure I don't have the dreaded covid because I have no fever and hardly a cough but I do have the mother of all sore throats and finding paracetamol is really loving difficult right now Doctors are reporting that paracetamol might cause nasty complications if you actually do have covid, so might wanna be careful with that (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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Mar 16, 2020 22:01
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Cardiff uni is all but closed as far as students are concerned and unsurprisingly they all went to the pub. We had a queue to the door most of the day, absolutely rammed They're all going home at the weekend and most are expecting a 6 week Easter break to be announced
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Mar 16, 2020 22:01
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peanut- posted:How are they meant to know, seriously? Tiz true. My mother worships at the throne of the totally impartial and 100% trustworthy BBC news. I spoke to her this evening and she said 'they haven't said we will have to stay home'. And they don't seem to be explaining exactly how this virus is not just Bad Cold Plus. I think I'll have another go at her tomorrow and explain some of the info I've gathered ITT about the fibrous growths, heart and so on.
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Mar 16, 2020 22:01
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I work in a small independent restaurant, the government telling your customers not to go out whilst not telling you to close is so hosed up. I’m lucky in that I have a secure contract with a certain amount of paid hours (owners are pretty lefty), but so much of the industry is made up of casual and part-time workers picking up extra shifts. The whole industry could be completely hosed by this. Although boris telling people not to go out seems to be good advertising. We had a really busy night for a Monday .
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Mar 16, 2020 22:01
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TheRat posted:Doctors are reporting that paracetamol might cause nasty complications if you actually do have covid, so might wanna be careful with that I thought it was ibuprofen you were supposed to avoid
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Mar 16, 2020 22:03
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Qwertycoatl posted:I thought it was ibuprofen you were supposed to avoid Pretty much any anti-inflammatory seems to be a suspect from what I saw
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TheRat posted:Doctors are reporting that paracetamol might cause nasty complications if you actually do have covid, so might wanna be careful with that No they aren't. People, if you're going to spout facts that you half-remember, or aren't certain of...could you check first? The actual advice was that anti-inflammatories like Ibuprofen are possibly bad, not paracetamol, but that if Ibuprofen is all you have and your fever is raging, it's probably better to take one than suffer.
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