Bundy posted:Yes well done on your fifth European Cup last season 6th
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Mar 16, 2020 20:12
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trap. sprung. *runs around thread with shirt pulled over head*
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Mar 16, 2020 20:14
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Bundy posted:trap. ?
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Mar 16, 2020 20:19
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I knew that much like all past dwelling scousers, you would not be able to resist reminding me that it's 6.
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Mar 16, 2020 20:23
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Bundy posted:I knew that much like all past dwelling scousers, you would not be able to resist reminding me that it's 6. Ok.
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Mar 16, 2020 20:24
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I still haven't heard anyone advocating for continuing the season during the summer/fall explain how to handle player contracts or whether a transfer window still possible given that countries have already or will likely begin restricting travel. Also the entirety of UEFA and FIFA would have to agree to the exact same schedule to make sure that transfer windows are consistent and no FA is placing an extreme burden on their clubs (or gaming it so their clubs can be more competitive in international competitions by getting significantly more rest.) Really the only solution is just to void the season and start over like it's August 2019.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:34
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Blinkz0rz posted:I still haven't heard anyone advocating for continuing the season during the summer/fall explain how to handle player contracts or whether a transfer window still possible given that countries have already or will likely begin restricting travel. From a player contract standpoint, it sounds like monthly rolling extensions might be feasible.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:40
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I actually agreed with Football Weekly, that if necessary just void the next unstarted season or shorten it, after resuming this one and finishing it whenever it's safe.
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Mar 16, 2020 21:59
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Blinkz0rz posted:I still haven't heard anyone advocating for continuing the season during the summer/fall explain how to handle player contracts or whether a transfer window still possible given that countries have already or will likely begin restricting travel. I mean transfers can still potentially happen, you would just need to find a way for players to perform medicals not with club doctors. If the season isn't starting anyway then the players don't need to immediately move (though this increases pressure on them). And what happens if play isn't able to resume in August? I still think Ninpos idea of calling the league as is now and having 22 teams in next year is the best idea. Cancel all ongoing cups, current top 4 get CL and 5th gets Europa (Citys ban obviously changes this if necessary). Then your relegate 5 teams next year. Either that or you do what the FA has proposed as an idea which is extend the current season into the next season.
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Mar 16, 2020 22:02
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Sounds really complicated when the goal is to get back on a normal schedule. Why not just void the season up and down English football and keep all the teams where they are? Sucks that teams that might have been promoted won't be but whatever the FA chooses has to line up with how UEFA and FIFA will handle international competition as well as contract law. Also, as has been said before, calling the league right now unfairly gifts Liverpool a title they haven't actually, mathematically won.
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Mar 16, 2020 22:24
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Blinkz0rz posted:Sounds really complicated when the goal is to get back on a normal schedule. According to who that the goal is to get back onto normal schedule. The FA has stated that their current goal is to complete this season even if it stretches into next season. Ah yeah, sucks for those teams that are gonna get promoted right down the leagues. Oh and coincidentally that Spurs magically appear back in a CL spot. I don't care about the title anymore, voiding the season financially fucks over more clubs than Liverpool.
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Mar 16, 2020 22:36
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sticksy posted:From a player contract standpoint, it sounds like monthly rolling extensions might be feasible. Lots of people would want to extend their contract on plague island.
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Mar 16, 2020 22:44
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CyberPingu posted:According to who that the goal is to get back onto normal schedule. If that's not the goal then what's the loving point of any of this?
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Mar 16, 2020 22:53
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Cancel next season and let this run into it. All contracts are automatically extended
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Mar 16, 2020 22:55
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The Italians are talking about extending this season over two seasons, I think that's becoming increasingly likely. Especially since whatever decision we end up with has to also work with European competitions, it kinda has to be that all the leagues come up with roughly similar solutions. You can't have the Italians still playing this season next year when the Premier League is on a new season, and still have both of them in European competitions. So what's most likely at this point I think is that the 2020-21 season gets fully cancelled, the 2019-20 season becomes a 2019-21 season, and then we try and get back to normal for a 2021-22 season just in time for scheduling to be hosed up by a November/December World Cup.
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Mar 16, 2020 22:56
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hadji murad posted:Lots of people would want to extend their contract on plague island. uhm i think you'll find its PLAGUE PLANET now
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Mar 16, 2020 22:56
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Blinkz0rz posted:If that's not the goal then what's the loving point of any of this? What's the point in starting a new season when you havnt even finished the current one? The league doesn't have to start in August. There is no mandate for that, the current season can be extended to whenever the FA decide. If the outbreak is still bad in August which is a possibility. Then good job, not only have you binned the previous season, you now have to delay your new one.
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Mar 16, 2020 23:02
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Jose posted:Cancel next season and let this run into it. All contracts are automatically extended That's another option but imo way harder to implement because contract law isn't under the FA's purview. They could request for players to work on extended contracts but any player who wants to leave could just up and go sign in another country with an open window.
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Mar 16, 2020 23:04
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Eau de MacGowan posted:uhm i think you'll find its PLAGUE PLANET now Most countries are trying to prevent transmission though.
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Mar 16, 2020 23:11
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Blinkz0rz posted:That's another option but imo way harder to implement because contract law isn't under the FA's purview. They could request for players to work on extended contracts but any player who wants to leave could just up and go sign in another country with an open window. Contracts will expire, so what? Players join and leave teams during midseason transfer windows all the time, and not every contract expires this year so most teams will have most of their players continue on.
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Mar 16, 2020 23:38
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The only argument for voiding the season is "I don't want to think about this too much," it doesn't really make sense from any perspective.
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Mar 16, 2020 23:42
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I was thinking more along the lines of having to ensure that transfer windows line up internationally but if the league is comfortable with an extra window in the season then I suppose it works but it feels overly complicated when "redo the season" is way easier.
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Mar 16, 2020 23:43
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Blinkz0rz posted:I was thinking more along the lines of having to ensure that transfer windows line up internationally but if the league is comfortable with an extra window in the season then I suppose it works but it feels overly complicated when "redo the season" is way easier. Pretending an entire season didn't happen is very far from easy
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Mar 16, 2020 23:45
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your friend wicka posted:Pretending an entire season didn't happen is very far from easy Yeah, as much as I'd jizz so hard I might be the first case of actual death by jizzing if the title got taken from Liverpool, I agree with the take on Football Weekly, that a season part completed is more important than a season of all zeroes that hasn't even started yet. If anything is to be messed with/cancelled/moved it should be the competition that has not yet begun. I find it hard to make a case against that. In other shock news, UEFA are a bunch of cunts: https://twitter.com/utdreport/status/1239678849891344389?s=19 Which will of course add more pressure to somehow finish contractual obligations as far as sponsors go.
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Mar 16, 2020 23:53
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lmao what the gently caress UEFA
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Mar 16, 2020 23:55
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Bundy posted:Yeah, as much as I'd jizz so hard I might be the first case of actual death by jizzing if the title got taken from Liverpool, I agree with the take on Football Weekly, that a season part completed is more important than a season of all zeroes that hasn't even started yet. If anything is to be messed with/cancelled/moved it should be the competition that has not yet begun. What if the clubs just collectively went "No"? What happens then?
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Mar 16, 2020 23:55
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I said it on the discord but the balls on UEFA are gargantuan.
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Mar 17, 2020 00:28
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Bundy posted:Yeah, as much as I'd jizz so hard I might be the first case of actual death by jizzing if the title got taken from Liverpool, I agree with the take on Football Weekly, that a season part completed is more important than a season of all zeroes that hasn't even started yet. If anything is to be messed with/cancelled/moved it should be the competition that has not yet begun. i think if sheikh mansour has a rummage around his sofa he could find £275mil in loose bullion, i wonder if there's anything he'd like to negotiate with uefa 
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Mar 17, 2020 02:16
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Eau de MacGowan posted:i think if sheikh mansour has a rummage around his sofa he could find £275mil in loose bullion, i wonder if there's anything he'd like to negotiate with uefa Lol holy poo poo It’s this, this is literally what they are asking.
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Mar 17, 2020 02:23
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Gigi Galli posted:Lol holy poo poo Since it's not my money I would be all for this
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Mar 17, 2020 04:00
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For 1 & a bit Neymar's you can appease UEFA. Surely this is how breakaway Super Leagues start. When clubs get pissed at things like this.
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Mar 17, 2020 09:07
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Eau de MacGowan posted:i think if sheikh mansour has a rummage around his sofa he could find £275mil in loose bullion, i wonder if there's anything he'd like to negotiate with uefa 
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Mar 17, 2020 10:53
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CyberPingu posted:I mean transfers can still potentially happen, you would just need to find a way for players to perform medicals not with club doctors. If the season isn't starting anyway then the players don't need to immediately move (though this increases pressure on them). weird that, that's a very nice solution for liverpool but fucks over anyone having a good cup run or teams just outside of automatic promotion/euro spots
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Mar 17, 2020 12:37
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kcer posted:weird that, that's a very nice solution for liverpool but fucks over anyone having a good cup run or teams just outside of automatic promotion/euro spots CyberPingu posted:I don't care about the title anymore, voiding the season financially fucks over more clubs than Liverpool.
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Mar 17, 2020 12:45
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i don't believe for a second that you give two fucks about the finances of other clubs, sorry
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Mar 17, 2020 12:56
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kcer posted:i don't believe for a second that you give two fucks about the finances of other clubs, sorry Ok
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Mar 17, 2020 12:58
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As a thought experiment I wondered if United were currently in the relegation spots what course of action I would think best - would I still think the year should be voided? And I came to the conclusion that yes, it should. But now I think the argument is becoming moot because voiding this season with the intention of starting again is predicated upon the world being healthy enough for poo poo to resume as normal in August which seems like a huge ask. Far better I think to be responsible and just cancel next years calendar and take the appropriate amount of time to finish up all of this season's fixtures and competitions whenever safe.
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Mar 17, 2020 13:14
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Void the season and make up an award like that fair play medal from the olympics and give it to Liverpool.
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Mar 17, 2020 13:31
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The Euros postponed: https://www.theguardian.com/football/2020/mar/17/euro-2020-postponed-coronavirus-uefa-champions-league-europa-league
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Mar 17, 2020 13:38
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rear end cobra posted:Void the season and make up an award like that fair play medal from the olympics and give it to Liverpool. Actually end the league and award positions based on number of points accrued for yellows and reds Arsenal win the title, Spurs, Watford and Newcastle in the CL. Wolves, Leicester and Liverpool all relegated Seems fair to me tbh
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Mar 17, 2020 13:44
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