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Solice Kirsk
Jun 1, 2004

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Grouchio posted:

I wonder which lovely companies are running around on fire now that the DOW lost a third of its shares.

Is this going to be worse than the Great Recession/Depression?

:lol:

No. But we can pretend like it will be. That's half the fun!

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TheKevman
Dec 13, 2003
I thought Mad Max: Fury Road was
:mediocre:
so you should probably ignore anything else I say

Solice Kirsk posted:

:lol:

No. But we can pretend like it will be. That's half the fun!

He said smugly, as if he could predict the future with uncanny accuracy.

1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Someone called this earlier lol. loving pathetic company, pure tax grift.

Illuminti
Dec 3, 2005

Praise be to China's Covid-Zero Policy

raminasi posted:

My 62-year-old mother was lamenting on the phone to me last night how much retirement money she lost and how she's gonna have to work forever now. I asked her why she didn't have most of her money somewhere safer.

She asked why she'd do a thing like that, she made so much money in the past few years!

Three months ago you'd have been telling her she was a fool not having her money in the stock market.

Genuinely, where should your 62 year old mother have been keeping her money?

Tokyo Sex Whale
Oct 9, 2012

"My butt smells like vanilla ice cream"

1st_Panzer_Div. posted:

Someone called this earlier lol. loving pathetic company, pure tax grift.

Yeah but at the same time long BA because for some reason we’re going to give them $50 billion, right?

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Grouchio posted:

I wonder which lovely companies are running around on fire now that the DOW lost a third of its shares.

Is this going to be worse than the Great Recession/Depression?

Can someone please explain how the DOW losing value would affect a given company, besides demand and supply issues? Why would lovely companies be more worried in this scenario than non-lovely ones?

Splinter
Jul 4, 2003
Cowabunga!
Why do we still talk/care about the DOW?

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Splinter posted:

Why do we still talk/care about the DOW?

I personally track the SP500 most of all the indices, not that I have a great reason why.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Tokyo Sex Whale posted:

Yeah but at the same time long BA because for some reason we’re going to give them $50 billion, right?

Yeah, we are. Too much at stake for the DoD.

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22

Inner Light posted:

I personally track the SP500 most of all the indices, not that I have a great reason why.

s&p is better because it is cap weighted and tracks 500 companies. the dow sucks because it's price weighted and tracks 30 companies.

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

Splinter posted:

Why do we still talk/care about the DOW?

Cuz that is what people on the fuckin TV talk about for ... reasons ...

Inner Light
Jan 2, 2020



Illuminti posted:

Three months ago you'd have been telling her she was a fool not having her money in the stock market.

Genuinely, where should your 62 year old mother have been keeping her money?



Also, people forget that at time of retirement under a traditional glidepath, you still have 50% equities, not like 10%. A drop like this to 50% of your assets is still a kick to the dick is it not?

poisonpill
Nov 8, 2009

The only way to get huge fast is to insult a passing witch and hope she curses you with Beast-strength.


I’ve got $10k to drop somewhere. What do

1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Tokyo Sex Whale posted:

Yeah but at the same time long BA because for some reason we’re going to give them $50 billion, right?

Yes yes and yes .But I wish we wouldn't.

I'd wait until after earnings though.

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe
$3k here - don't know what to do with it now.

I'm wondering where the bottom for $AAPL is. Some guys on WSB are saying $210 puts, but break even right now $192.

Bought some Best Buy puts - $BBY $47.5p 4/17. They've been going down. Unfortunately I bought at the peak down today (5.90 per contract) and now its 3.82, so I'm down $416, but I think they're gonna suffer a lot in the coming months. But I only bought two contracts.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

poisonpill posted:

I've got $10k to drop somewhere. What do

Wait for another dumb pump then buy SPY puts expiring a few weeks out like the rest of us?

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


Cramer on Mad Money advocating for closing the markets for a while

dpkg chopra
Jun 9, 2007

Fast Food Fight

Grimey Drawer

pmchem posted:

Cramer on Mad Money advocating for closing the markets for a while

He probably got margin called and just doesn't want to pay up

Bored As Fuck
Jan 1, 2006
Fun Shoe

pmchem posted:

Cramer on Mad Money advocating for closing the markets for a while

Lol how many margin calls did he get? He's probably down millions of dollars.

spencer for hire
Jan 27, 2006

we just want to dance here, someone stole the stage
they call us irresponsible, write us off the page

Bored As gently caress posted:

$3k here - don't know what to do with it now.

I'm wondering where the bottom for $AAPL is. Some guys on WSB are saying $210 puts, but break even right now $192.

Bought some Best Buy puts - $BBY $47.5p 4/17. They've been going down. Unfortunately I bought at the peak down today (5.90 per contract) and now its 3.82, so I'm down $416, but I think they're gonna suffer a lot in the coming months. But I only bought two contracts.

I was at Best Buy this weekend and monitors were nearly out of stock, presumably due to work from home initiatives. That being said, Q3 looks dire after everyone dies in the streets at the end of Q2

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


poisonpill posted:

I’ve got $10k to drop somewhere. What do

Put it in a savings account.

FCKGW
May 21, 2006

Bored As gently caress posted:

$3k here - don't know what to do with it now.

I'm wondering where the bottom for $AAPL is. Some guys on WSB are saying $210 puts, but break even right now $192.

Bought some Best Buy puts - $BBY $47.5p 4/17. They've been going down. Unfortunately I bought at the peak down today (5.90 per contract) and now its 3.82, so I'm down $416, but I think they're gonna suffer a lot in the coming months. But I only bought two contracts.

Best Buy and Microcenter were packed to the rafters with WFH people buying computer equipment and bored students building gaming PCs. Microcenter had to impose purchase limits on PCs and monitors.

I wonder if this drives a big push from the employees who have been asking for telecommuting forever and some of these people just don't return to the office when this is over.

Agronox
Feb 4, 2005

pmchem posted:

Cramer on Mad Money advocating for closing the markets for a while

That seems like a recipe to cause bank runs

Foma
Oct 1, 2004
Hello, My name is Lip Synch. Right now, I'm making a post that is anti-bush or something Micheal Moore would be proud of because I and the rest of my team lefty friends (koba1t included) need something to circle jerk to.
DOW 20,000!


again

KYOON GRIFFEY JR
Apr 12, 2010



Runner-up, TRP Sack Race 2021/22
what is the actual case for closing the market other than preventing a bunch of people from getting margin called and or losing paper money

Baddog
May 12, 2001

pmchem posted:

Cramer on Mad Money advocating for closing the markets for a while

What the gently caress lol. Completely crater what's left of any confidence in a functioning economy.

FreelanceSocialist
Nov 19, 2002

Agronox posted:

That seems like a recipe to cause bank runs

The funny thing is that most people wouldn't even notice if the markets closed, but the MSM would do their best to send them into a panic anyway.

raminasi
Jan 25, 2005

a last drink with no ice

Inner Light posted:



Also, people forget that at time of retirement under a traditional glidepath, you still have 50% equities, not like 10%. A drop like this to 50% of your assets is still a kick to the dick is it not?

You're right, I shouldn't be so hard on her! :shobon:

Fate Accomplice
Nov 30, 2006




one benefit of this, I've stopped getting the 1-2 tinder matches from china trying to get me to invest in random altcoins each week

a cat
Aug 8, 2003

meow.
How do people feel about Amazon now (or soonish)?

I'm starting to think that this is a new phase of commerce/shopping moving online and that some of that business wont ever go back to brick and mortor. New people are surely going to start checking online for things that are sold out of their local stores before driving there. AMZN is struggling with keeping things in stock right now, but surely their competition isn't going to fare better due to any superior supply chain; Amazons has to be top notch. But unlike their competitors, amazon can onboard new people to ordering pantry type items, and things like grocery delivery. Having tried grocery delivery myself for the first time a few months ago, it's pretty great and even though I never thought I needed it before I tried it, it's pretty sticky. People are going to try out these things in droves and significant amounts of those types of purchases are going to be stolen eternally from walmart.

Those 100k workers they're hiring and the raises they're giving their warehouse workers aren't due to benevolence. I suspect they have numbers internally that show that this will be needed for this new expansion.

saintonan
Dec 7, 2009

Fields of glory shine eternal

KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:

what is the actual case for closing the market other than preventing a bunch of people from getting margin called and or losing paper money

(Not my argument, but this is the one I've heard that makes the most sense)

The market is going down primarily because of unknowables and not because of any specific systemic weakness. Stocks were at all time highs before this started, and absent this unknowable, would likely still be. If we're essentially shutting down the economy for some period of time, it makes sense to shut markets for that same amount of time. At that point the market will know much more about the extent and duration of the virus' impact, so traders can make educated decisions as opposed to the current pure guesses.

Josh Lyman
May 24, 2009


What the gently caress is this chart? Everything there's some drift up there's a sudden gap down. Look at this loving oscillator.

1 min /ES for the last hour or so:

pmchem
Jan 22, 2010


https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3912152&perpage=40&pagenumber=1306#post503359484

horrifying study out of the U.K. on COVID measures needed that explains some recent USGOV actions

BlackMK4
Aug 23, 2006

wat.
Megamarm

pmchem posted:

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3912152&perpage=40&pagenumber=1306#post503359484

horrifying study out of the U.K. on COVID measures needed that explains some recent USGOV actions

Scrolling through this thread reminds me of why I never go into that subforum

Cobra Commander
Jan 18, 2011



It’s sucks working at a major firm right now. My clients are pissed and everyone is freaking out, rightfully so.

Hit Man
Mar 6, 2008

I hope after I die people will say of me: "That guy sure owed me a lot of money."

Josh Lyman posted:

What the gently caress is this chart? Everything there's some drift up there's a sudden gap down. Look at this loving oscillator.

1 min /ES for the last hour or so:



And here I am at work thinking etrade is lagging, shits weird

paternity suitor
Aug 2, 2016

a cat posted:

How do people feel about Amazon now (or soonish)?

I'm starting to think that this is a new phase of commerce/shopping moving online and that some of that business wont ever go back to brick and mortor. New people are surely going to start checking online for things that are sold out of their local stores before driving there. AMZN is struggling with keeping things in stock right now, but surely their competition isn't going to fare better due to any superior supply chain; Amazons has to be top notch. But unlike their competitors, amazon can onboard new people to ordering pantry type items, and things like grocery delivery. Having tried grocery delivery myself for the first time a few months ago, it's pretty great and even though I never thought I needed it before I tried it, it's pretty sticky. People are going to try out these things in droves and significant amounts of those types of purchases are going to be stolen eternally from walmart.

Those 100k workers they're hiring and the raises they're giving their warehouse workers aren't due to benevolence. I suspect they have numbers internally that show that this will be needed for this new expansion.

Amazon is on my list of companies that I'm ready to re-enter the stock trading game for. With free trades, you may as well just slowly DCA in over the next couple of months. I don't really see a catalyst for anything until we know more, but in the end Amazon will be fine and probably gain some new customers out of this, and weather any storm on the horizon.

1st_Panzer_Div.
May 11, 2005
Grimey Drawer

Ur Getting Fatter posted:

He probably got margin called and just doesn't want to pay up

He can't trade outside charity management, he's lifelong banned.

I think he's right, closing a few weeks eliminates the chance if a full implosion, and while that's unlikely, why take a chance?

The basic idea is that if society has to pause, so should the markets. It would also allow time to ban ridiculous etfs, robinhood, etc.

The counter argument is oil war and the dollar. The oil war being a very strong arguement.

Fake edit: am a micro economist not macro, so this is way outside my comfort zone

1st_Panzer_Div. fucked around with this message at 01:16 on Mar 17, 2020

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


1st_Panzer_Div. posted:

He can't trade outside charity management, he's lifelong banned.

okay I only passingly know of him, I don't really follow the major market people, is there a good story behind his ban?

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LLCoolJD
Dec 8, 2007

Musk threatens the inorganic promotion of left-wing ideology that had been taking place on the platform

Block me for being an unironic DeSantis fan, too!

pmchem posted:

Cramer on Mad Money advocating for closing the markets for a while

He's losing his shirt :laugh: edit: he's banned? Like the "book" from Casino that Joe Pesci gets placed in?

BlackMK4 posted:

Scrolling through this thread reminds me of why I never go into that subforum

You're right. Resentful and angry people with mommy and daddy issues.

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