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The only thing I remember about Tom Brandi was that worked-shoot angle where he rejected his fake Italian gimmick and started wrestling "as himself," which went for like 3 months before he disappeared from the company.
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He had a mini feud with Mark Mero in early 98 which lead to nothing.
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Canada vs USA angles were the best, are we ever gonna get another one? AEW has many Canadians Go 
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What was the source of the locker room heat between Kevin Steen and Davey Richards? I remember consistently hearing they legit disliked each other and their feud was partly to capitalize on it I know there was a shoot video on highspots but I no longer subscribe and never watched their face off thing. El Gallinero Gros fucked around with this message at 21:55 on Mar 14, 2020 |
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I don't know the actual answer but I bet part of it is that Davey is incredibly unlikeable in general
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are there any reports about the WWE trying to sign any Japanese talent in the 90s? Guys like Muta, Kobashi, Misawa, Chono, etc
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Low Desert Punk posted:are there any reports about the WWE trying to sign any Japanese talent in the 90s? Guys like Muta, Kobashi, Misawa, Chono, etc I remember them trying to sign Kobashi in 96 or close.
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Muta and Chono probably would have been loyal to NWA/WCW/NJPW given the working relationship
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WWE had Jinsei Shinzaki in the 90s and did nothing with him except showcase to a young me that WWE's wrestlers were almost all super lame and lovely by comparison. They also had Taka and Kai En Tai DX and made them jokes who chopped off penises. STAC Goat fucked around with this message at 02:32 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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Numero6 posted:I remember them trying to sign Kobashi in 96 or close. I think it was 97/98, around the time they wanted to do a deal with All Japan. Baba wouldn't agree to the money they wanted to bring in WWF stars and told them no one knows who WWF wrestlers are in Japan. The WWF reps thought this was ridiculous because they saw Austin all over the magazines that week, since it was right after Rumble 98 and the Tyson angle.
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I am morbidly curious how 98 WWF would have used Kenta Kobashi
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MassRafTer posted:I think it was 97/98, around the time they wanted to do a deal with All Japan. Baba wouldn't agree to the money they wanted to bring in WWF stars and told them no one knows who WWF wrestlers are in Japan. The WWF reps thought this was ridiculous because they saw Austin all over the magazines that week, since it was right after Rumble 98 and the Tyson angle. i would suggest AJPW send them Wolf Hawkfield as a joke but Wolf Hawkfield was far too important for that
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Low Desert Punk posted:I am morbidly curious how 98 WWF would have used Kenta Kobashi They would've had Kenta literally chop Val Venis' penis off with his hand, so that would've been cool.
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Alaois posted:i would suggest AJPW send them Wolf Hawkfield as a joke but Wolf Hawkfield was far too important for that hi is this telling me that ajpw had a guy use a virtua fighter gimmick
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shiksa posted:hi is this telling me that ajpw had a guy use a virtua fighter gimmick no of course not they had two, they also had Jeffry McWild for a bit. Wolf Hawkfield lasted a bit longer than he did. 
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Benne posted:The only thing I remember about Tom Brandi was that worked-shoot angle where he rejected his fake Italian gimmick and started wrestling "as himself," which went for like 3 months before he disappeared from the company. Is this Russo’s favorite type of angle? Someone rejecting their lovely gimmick? He also did it with Dustin Runnels twice, and Beaver Cleavage, off the top of my head.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Is this Russo’s favorite type of angle? Someone rejecting their lovely gimmick? He also did it with Dustin Runnels twice, and Beaver Cleavage, off the top of my head. It might well be, though I remember reading that in Beaver Cleavage's case he was more or less forced into it as the gimmick was really, really terrible and everyone else in the company hated it. He managed to make up for it though, by giving Chaz Warrington a wife-beater gimmick not long afterwards... ... or was she just being a typical woman and faking it the whole time??? A very thought-provoking storyline.
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Alaois posted:no of course not I hope the guys movelist is accurate! Gimme that shoulder charge, giant swing, kicks to the midriff, and elbows that don't touch the opponent but do massive damage!
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Was The Rock turning heel at Survivor Series 98 a good idea at the time? Seems he was mad over as a face already.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Was The Rock turning heel at Survivor Series 98 a good idea at the time? Seems he was mad over as a face already. Yeah, feuding with Foley and Austin was better than whatever the number 2 face would have been doing at the time.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Is this Russo’s favorite type of angle? Someone rejecting their lovely gimmick? He also did it with Dustin Runnels twice, and Beaver Cleavage, off the top of my head.
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Breitbart Is Rightbart posted:Was The Rock turning heel at Survivor Series 98 a good idea at the time? Seems he was mad over as a face already. At the time it was Vince's way of redoing the Montreal Screwjob as fiction that was under his control. It also led to the hugely successful Mankind / Rock feud, and ultimately to Rock/Austin at Wrestlemania 15, all of which did very good business.
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Pope Corky the IX posted:Is this Russo’s favorite type of angle? Someone rejecting their lovely gimmick? He also did it with Dustin Runnels twice, and Beaver Cleavage, off the top of my head. there's nothing more Russo than someone coming out and saying "all the rest of this show is fake but this bit's real"
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It's honestly impressive that Vince Russo was active and prominent in the wrestling business for two decades and he never learned how it works
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Halloween Jack posted:It can't be his favourite type of angle because nobody calls a woman a whore and assaults her. But he loved worked shoots. He mentioned Beaver, so yes they did.
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I mostly absorb AEW content through WOR/B&V so I’m a little confused about the Tony Schiavone/Starbucks running joke. Help me out, questions thread!
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Karmine posted:I mostly absorb AEW content through WOR/B&V so I’m a little confused about the Tony Schiavone/Starbucks running joke. Help me out, questions thread! He worked there for a while and now Britt Baker teases him about it
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Yeah, Tony just likes to work. And Starbucks actually offers some decent benefits afaik
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THIS IS THE GREATEST SOY HAZELNUT LATTE IN THE HISTORY OF OUR SPORT!
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Were Kota and Kenny actually lovers, or was it just queerbaiting?
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We don't know Tyson Smith or Ibushi Kota's sexual orientation. The Golden  Lovers are aces who express their love for one another through wrestling.
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Were Kota and Kenny actually lovers, or was it just queerbaiting? All we really know is that Kenny is bisexual and Kota is Kota and they are very close. Whether they were literally loving or not, they've never said. I'd not have called the Golden Lovers queerbaiting but gently caress do I know?
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forkboy84 posted:All we really know is that Kenny is bisexual and Kota is Kota and they are very close. Whether they were literally loving or not, they've never said. I'd not have called the Golden Lovers queerbaiting but gently caress do I know? That's just what the expression means. It already is that. My question is, was it just that, and it appears it hasn't been confirmed either way.
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IIRC it's one of those situations where being open won't hurt Kenny but being open could hurt Ibushi. It is very definite that Kenny felt something though because he'll start crying when talking about how they had to split up.
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:I mean, it's kind of the definition of queer baiting. You put enough out there that you can get points for queer representation in media, but you never confirm it because there'd be blowback. Weird inquiry all around. If you've already decided it was at least "just" that by definition (which I disagree with, but whatever), why do you care if it was more? Frankly, I'm a little surprised it was allowed to be as forward-facing as it was, given the Japanese market.
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I thought the TSN documentary made it pretty clear that they weren't actually dating but didn't want to come out and say that because it would ruin the story for so many people. Kenny had the bi flag in his last Wrestle Kingdom tron though.
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It's not queerbaiting if two gay actors are not actually dating Anyway Kenny is the world champion of my heart.
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forkboy84 posted:All we really know is that Kenny is bisexual and Kota is Kota and they are very close. Whether they were literally loving or not, they've never said. I'd not have called the Golden Lovers queerbaiting but gently caress do I know? They were close but aren't anymore: Kenny loving him out of some merch money in 2018 didn't exactly help their relationship, nor indeed Kenny's relationship with New Japan. There are reasons why as soon as they left Ibushi, after years of being this freelancer with no fixed ties and who always wanted to have the ability to leave and go do weird poo poo on a whim, ended up signing a "lifetime contract" with New Japan - its not just them not wanting him on a contract before now since they've wanted him for loving years; its almost seemed to be a reaction to him really not liking the offer he got from AEW and in response just going with New Japan who offered a stronger push and who he seems to trust a lot more.
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WSAENOTSOCK posted:Were Kota and Kenny actually lovers, or was it just queerbaiting? Japanese wrestling still insists on guys maintaining kayfabe to a degree. Some wrestlers like Tana will ride the line pretty close so he can air whatever real life grievances he has as part of the story of the match but in general they play it pretty straight in the media. So really we will never know for sure. Kenny now that he's wrestling out the west might go into the story but Kenny is a bit of a carny himself and what he says should be taken with a pinch of salt. However there has been rumours that Kenny was dating Hikaru Shida at least for a time and she did sign with AEW so take that as you will. Its not easy to get the private life information on Japanese wrestlers. Especially the women. They keep it pretty quiet
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