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gently caress yeah we're (tied) number one rule britannia
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wow, I've just come off a month-long media and news fast and I feel great! time to take a big swig of coffee and check what's going on in the world
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Mar 17, 2020 09:24
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I have some friends who don't really follow UK politics, but have gotten the impression Boris is a clever (or at least moderately intelligent man) who pretends to be a clown. I've been making the case that his public persona is that of a man pretending to be an idiot solely because it's the best way to hide the depths of just how smooth his brain actually is, and I'm pretty sure his crisis response of "just let people die, which will disproportionally affect his own voters" seals my case.
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Mar 17, 2020 10:19
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I have some friends who don't really follow UK politics, but have gotten the impression Boris is a clever (or at least moderately intelligent man) who pretends to be a clown. He has Trump's instinctive ability to get dipshits onside through his oafishness - that same dead-eyed, sharklike grifter energy - but there's no doubt that he's a loving moron. In particular he's a self-deluding, indecisive moron who wants all of the glory but never wants to be within a million miles of an actual difficult and weighty decision. Dithering, bluster and bare-faced lying are his three tactics in the face of any issue, big or small. And this one's pretty big.
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Mar 17, 2020 10:25
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:I have some friends who don't really follow UK politics, but have gotten the impression Boris is a clever (or at least moderately intelligent man) who pretends to be a clown. bojo has said as much himself, he's as stupid as he looks a LOT of the european response makes sense if you consider that we just racistly assumed chinese science isn't real
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Mar 17, 2020 10:27
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Ian Hislop is a smug twat and have I got news for you has many questions to answer re: responsibility for bojos rise to power, but his comment on Boris pretty much sums it upIan Hislop posted:People always ask me the same question, they say, 'Is Boris a very very clever man pretending to be an idiot?' And I always say, 'No.' he spent enough time at private school and Oxford that he has the classics references and plummy voice and general bumbling posh boy act down which British people are programmed from birth to conflate with intelligence and ability, but he is fundamentally a stupid man cf Rees mogg his sole ambition was to be prime minister and this was his chance to be Churchill, to shut down everything and make difficult decisions to save hundreds of thousands of lives and he just fumbled it
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Mar 17, 2020 10:35
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Sorry, just to clarify that, Boris isn't actually a moron in the low double digit IQ realms of Trumbo, he has actually had an education, even if a lot of it was nepotism. His stupidity comes from his pure undiluted laziness and desire to do gently caress all while grasping for power for its own sake. His corona response has likely been almost entirely draft written by his advisers because to do anything else would require *effort* which he does not care for. The ruling class should not have to actually think about things, the servile classes should just take what they are given and be happy about it. Why are they complaining?! Let them eat cake, etc etc. It doesn't help that he surrounds himself with complete idiots, if he had some actual competent people in his cabinet he would probably be fine because as long as they don't bother him he will just let them get on with whatever they want. Unfortunately, dom cummings chased off all the competent people in his quest to find people into eugenics and finding some kind of final solution for the migrant problem, so Boris gets left with such intellectual heavyweights as... *checks notes* Dom Raab and Priti Patel?!?!  Edit: Oh God, I just remembered they promoted Chris Grayling (again) to the intelligence committee. You would have thought a vital requirement for being assigned there would be, you know, intelligence. The tory cabinet is just every smug loving arsehole manager who instead of being fired for incompetence was instead promoted just so they didn't have to be dealt with anymore. Failing upwards indeed. Dravs has issued a correction as of 10:41 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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Mar 17, 2020 10:37
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Young folks are gonna re-elect Boris out of gratitude for killing the olds.
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Mar 17, 2020 10:49
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What was Chris Grayling's record, again? Was he the guy who paid millions to a pizza delivery truck for their shipping rights, or "just" the one who decided that Brexit would not result in a greater customs burden and thus refused to let anyone investigate options for preparing for said burden?XMNN posted:he spent enough time at private school and Oxford that he has the classics references and plummy voice and general bumbling posh boy act down which British people are programmed from birth to conflate with intelligence and ability, but he is fundamentally a stupid man My first exposure to Bojo actually speaking was that interview when he was asked to compare himself to a historical leader, and he picked loving Pericles. I have only a superficial knowledge of the classics, and even I know that the only way anyone could be impressed by that answer is "he said a greek name, and greek names are what smart people say."
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Mar 17, 2020 11:10
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:What was Chris Grayling's record, again? Was he the guy who paid millions to a pizza delivery truck for their shipping rights, or "just" the one who decided that Brexit would not result in a greater customs burden and thus refused to let anyone investigate options for preparing for said burden? his finest hour was probably the ferry deal, where he awarded a huge contract for post-brexit trade to a company with no boats and hardly any employees, but he also tried to privatise the probation service and completely hosed up the trains the man is a complete disaster and that he somehow has relevance outside of being a brexiteer willing to support theresa may is almost as stunning an indictment of the conservative party as this omnishambles of a pandemic response
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Mar 17, 2020 12:25
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I feel like i'm going to go completely insane? The tories have basically just killed thousands of people for no reason, still haven't put in place the necessary measures and are just going to get away with it all!
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Mar 17, 2020 12:45
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UrbicaMortis posted:I feel like i'm going to go completely insane? The tories have basically just killed thousands of people for no reason, still haven't put in place the necessary measures and are just going to get away with it all!
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Mar 17, 2020 12:48
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Crowsbeak posted:Does this cancel the Labour Party election? No, it's all postal votes and online votes. Counting them might be delayed though I've heard nothing on that but it'll still happen
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Mar 17, 2020 12:51
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90s Cringe Rock posted:wow a post from like 2011, hi It's not unexpected, I'm just currently melting down about it. I'll go back to being jaded soon enough.
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Mar 17, 2020 12:52
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UrbicaMortis posted:I feel like i'm going to go completely insane? The tories have basically just killed thousands of people for no reason, still haven't put in place the necessary measures and are just going to get away with it all! now now op it's hundreds of thousands And potentially somewhere around a cool million
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Mar 17, 2020 13:08
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https://www.independent.co.uk/news/health/coronavirus-lockdown-uk-vaccine-cure-covid-19-nhs-government-scientists-a9404636.htmlquote:Coronavirus: UK lockdown could be indefinite until a vaccine is found, warn scientists advising government
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Mar 17, 2020 14:03
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Communist Thoughts posted:bojo has said as much himself, he's as stupid as he looks I mean. Think how many times you have seen it suggested Chinese science wasn’t advanced due to somewhat higher rates of plagiarism in Chinese technology and science schools. This would really not surprise me.
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Mar 17, 2020 14:22
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Crowsbeak posted:I mean. Think how many times you have seen it suggested Chinese science wasn’t advanced due to somewhat higher rates of plagiarism in Chinese technology and science schools. This would really not surprise me. https://twitter.com/JasonSCampbell/status/1131973863535992832
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Mar 17, 2020 14:40
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Summarize it as I refuse to listen to a second of that demonic dual loyalist.
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Mar 17, 2020 14:43
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china's initial response was also Not Great, remember. they were just able to mobilise like crazy once they realised how bad it was, which the west absolutely does not want to do because number is suffering enough
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Mar 17, 2020 14:43
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Crowsbeak posted:Summarize it as I refuse to listen to a second of that demonic dual loyalist. "Western science is the only science done for the pursuit of knowledge, therefore it's the only good science." Like it's somehow pure-reason-focused, and other civilizations just discover science things in order to do tasks.
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Mar 17, 2020 14:45
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Crowsbeak posted:demonic dual loyalist. hmm, seems anti-semitic op
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Mar 17, 2020 14:50
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prefect posted:"Western science is the only science done for the pursuit of knowledge, therefore it's the only good science." That’s complete dogshit. Like you had Arab and Berbers trying to learn bird flight dynamics so to learn flight. You had Turkmen studying the night sky to learn of God’s machine. I can’t know about East Asia as that is not my expertise outside of alchemy had its origins in China.
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Mar 17, 2020 15:28
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Crowsbeak posted:That’s complete dogshit. Like you had Arab and Berbers trying to learn bird flight dynamics so to learn flight. You had Turkmen studying the night sky to learn of God’s machine. I can’t know about East Asia as that is not my expertise outside of alchemy had its origins in China. I think he also calls it "Judeo-Christian science", like that's a thing.
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Mar 17, 2020 15:29
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Inexplicable Humblebrag posted:wow, I've just come off a month-long media and news fast and I feel great! time to take a big swig of coffee and check what's going on in the world thinking about that thing david mitchell did years ago, where a few comedians/panel show types were locked in a house w/o any access to outside news, and wondering how that before/after would go rn
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Mar 17, 2020 15:30
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prefect posted:I think he also calls it "Judeo-Christian science", like that's a thing. "Judeo-Christian" is always funny, given how many times the "Judeo" half of the term was expelled or massacred by the "Christian" half. Kassad has issued a correction as of 17:23 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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Mar 17, 2020 15:33
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Meanwhile, at the Telegraph... 
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Mar 17, 2020 16:04
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Pipski posted:Meanwhile, at the Telegraph... The paywall fadeout on that article is beautiful. Go look for it.
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Mar 17, 2020 16:13
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V. Illych L. posted:his finest hour was probably the ferry deal, where he awarded a huge contract for post-brexit trade to a company with no boats and hardly any employees... What was the result of this though? The company quite clearly couldn't handle what would've been required of them but does 'awarded' mean they were paid for it anyway? It was what, 12/14 million quid?
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Mar 17, 2020 16:15
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Zulily Zoetrope posted:My first exposure to Bojo actually speaking was that interview when he was asked to compare himself to a historical leader, and he picked loving Pericles. I have only a superficial knowledge of the classics, and even I know that the only way anyone could be impressed by that answer is "he said a greek name, and greek names are what smart people say." I see people that talk up or hint the idea that they're trying to emulate classical figures as being like comic book fans that really wish they could be Batman or something, because those figures lived in societies that would be alien to us now. That said, I did quite like that the Guardian said that he's actually just a lovely Alcibiades.
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Mar 17, 2020 16:28
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Kassad posted:"Judeo-Christian" is always funny, given how many times the "Judeo" half was expelled or massacred by the "Christian" half. Also the always implicit "2/3 Of The Major Abrahamic Religions" that it signals. The unspoken "gently caress ISLAM" element.
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Mar 17, 2020 16:50
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Olympic Mathlete posted:What was the result of this though? The company quite clearly couldn't handle what would've been required of them but does 'awarded' mean they were paid for it anyway? It was what, 12/14 million quid? yeah they got the contract and then presumably embezzled the whole sum lol
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Mar 17, 2020 16:53
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contracts like that typically have penalty clauses for if the company cocks it up too badly, but that relies on the company being a real company with, like, assets and a reputation on the line. these guys presumably spent it all on vital candle supplies from a provider they coincidentally owned and went laughing to the bankruptcy
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Mar 17, 2020 16:55
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To be honest, Britain's political elite knowingly condemning thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of people they're in theory responsible for to preventable deaths because it suits their political and economic agendas feels extremely in-character for the former British Empire.
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Mar 17, 2020 17:28
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Grape posted:Also the always implicit "2/3 Of The Major Abrahamic Religions" that it signals. The unspoken "gently caress ISLAM" element. its more a gently caress EVERYTHING ELSE BUT CHRISTIANITY bit by people who think the purpose of judaism was to be a prelude to christianity
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Mar 17, 2020 17:32
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Cythereal posted:To be honest, Britain's political elite knowingly condemning thousands if not tens or hundreds of thousands of people they're in theory responsible for to preventable deaths because it suits their political and economic agendas feels extremely in-character for the former British Empire. yeah we never really changed, we weren't forced to. we just got smaller
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Mar 17, 2020 17:41
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£330 billion is a fair whack of cash but I notice the mention of mortgages but nothing about renters...
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Mar 17, 2020 18:38
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lol the financial assistance the government have announced is a 3 month mortgage holiday and giving small businesses loans
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They seemed to imply you would have to apply for the mortgage "holiday" and its implied that banks would only give it to struggling businesses?
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