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Scruffpuff posted:It's just a pathological OCD thing. I wonder if Chris understands that in the end, it's all fake poo poo on a screen and the spaceman isn't really there in the first place. It fits in with the whole "second life in space" thing the backers want so bad. The Crobbler has never come out and said they're making The Oasis from Ready Player One, they've just heavily implied it and let the backers spin their dreams from there. Also  at all the citizens going "I don't care if other people don't like this tedious, boring game mechanic" yeah, it totally doesn't matter in a multiplayer game... unless you want other people playing it and buying it...[Taxxe edit] https://i.imgur.com/Pqf6II9.mp4 Zazz Razzamatazz fucked around with this message at 15:42 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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hottubrhymemachine posted:Can I ask a serious question for the game devs, please? makes no difference at all and in the end it's probably the same thing. chris would have to look at the code and force devs to make the player entity send commands to the ship entity at literally no gain whatsoever for no reason
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hottubrhymemachine posted:Can I ask a serious question for the game devs, please? If they really did that you control commando who controls the ship, the only possible advantage I can think of would be that someone could sneak behind pilot and throw box at the joystick or something, and that would affect ship. No idea how would that make the game any better. I think it is mostly for some "purity"/"fidelity", or it is just a means to highlight the fact that in the middle of space combat, you can stand up and go to space toilet
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Mar 17, 2020 15:46
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Isn't the whole "character does not become the ship" thing false, anyway? As I recall, pilots are invulnerable in the chair, can vomit out ship parts and other things that indicate they have a ship state?
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Mar 17, 2020 15:48
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Yeah it's more like you're a ship that controls the player controlling the ship
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Bofast posted:Isn't the whole "character does not become the ship" thing false, anyway? As I recall, pilots are invulnerable in the chair, can vomit out ship parts and other things that indicate they have a ship state? Unfunny but true answers * Your character model will stick to the chair model when you use it. You can still see your character model animating from the waist up but it's clearly in a sitting pose glued to the chair, same as any other game with vehicles. People ITT have been posting wild rear end conspiracies for years about noclip flight models and players becoming the ship as though that would be an invalidating thing, but to my knowledge it's just projection and the actual game is using a pretty standard vehicle attachment system. * They used to not have a hitbox for characters in chairs- this was changed, though they never bothered to fix the animations around it so on being shot you will spring upright into the ceiling as all the tension in your legs is released at once. * I haven't seen anyone vomit ship modules and in practice ship equipment seems to be on a totally separate system from personal equipment which is probably just more evidence of constant duplication of effort, but whatever --- * "You control your pilot controlling the ship" was a Chris Roberts hand wave justification for the physics and flight control systems being so fucky way back in like 2013-2014. The idea was that your inputs were stating an intent to the system which would then spin all these little thrusters around to try and match what you were telling it to do. As thrusters got shot away the ship would become less responsive and so on. The problem was that the engine on the back of the ship overpowered everything else by 10-to-1 at first, and when they made them all equal the ship basically just followed your mouse perfectly so what was the point, and also it was hugely consumptive of network resources. So the whole thing was dropped and now you pilot your ship just like every other arcade space game out there, with ships having set pitch/yaw/roll per second capacity.
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Zazz Razzamatazz posted:Also
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commando in tophat posted:If they really did that you control commando who controls the ship, the only possible advantage I can think of would be that someone could sneak behind pilot and throw box at the joystick or something, and that would affect ship. No idea how would that make the game any better. I think it is mostly for some "purity"/"fidelity", or it is just a means to highlight the fact that in the middle of space combat, you can stand up and go to space toilet If I were CIG I would add one second of input lag because that's how long it takes for the pilot to react. Then I would sell spacemax energy drinks that reduce this lag for real money. It's not p2w because I say so. Hire me CIG.
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also the player jank in that reminds me a ton of FPS games I played in the late 90s lol
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What a complete jank fest.
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TheAgent posted:also the player jank in that reminds me a ton of FPS games I played in the late 90s lol Nah, they were way less janky.
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Holy hell, how could anyone look at that and cry "Sing hosanna, PC gaming is saved!"?
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Mr.PayDay posted:
User Ranting_Demon was so nice to post a summary of that amazing podcast episode: quote:"I don't have the time to listen to the full bit about Star Citizen right now but even the first couple of minutes of the SC segment are pure gold.
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I wasn't sure if they were on a frozen lake or terrain disappeared until death cam, but I was leaning towards glitchy terrain. I sure hope that this is on some super low graphics settings because it looks like poo poo
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commando in tophat posted:I wasn't sure if they were on a frozen lake or terrain disappeared until death cam, but I was leaning towards glitchy terrain. I sure hope that this is on some super low graphics settings because it looks like poo poo buy an idris so that they can afford to develop better ice shaders
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It's the quality of the glitch that really brings a tear to the eye.
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Sarsapariller posted:* I haven't seen anyone vomit ship modules and in practice ship equipment seems to be on a totally separate system from personal equipment which is probably just more evidence of constant duplication of effort, but whatever Oh it's a thing Pixelate posted:Goons who understand game dev, why would this happen? Pixelate posted:SHIP COMPONENTS SPAWN BELOW ME Pixelate posted:Major Tom Bug
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The graveyard of pilots in the middle of nowhere was a pretty good tell that the player becomes the ship.
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Rugganovich posted:A member of the Goat Appreciation Society, methinks. Different sect of shadowy cabalists. We think they're dicks. Colostomy Bag posted:Clown Incontinence. Clown Emporium. Four floors of frauds, fnord. hottubrhymemachine posted:Can I ask a serious question for the game devs, please? Some would call this 'the earliest signs that Chris has brainworms'. it was largely connected with the idea that the thruster layout would result in actual differences in handling, but they abandoned that when it started limiting ships designs. You know how helicopters tend to look much the same because they fulfill a specific concept of lift using moving wing surfaces? Dementropy posted:
Oh Christ. The F35 doesn't actually fulfill any of the roles that it was designed for, unless you count STOL takeoffs on the UK baby carrier, and they tend to limit range. It was originally procured by three branches, and they all had differing requirements, leading to something that doesn't quite hit all the marks. The Oxylytic system keeps loving up, the synthetic element radar is amazing when it works, but the software is lagging, and the last thing we really need is another partially stealthed limited bomb truck that sucks as a multirole. It's a generation ahead of anything else, but literally everyone else shifted the battlefield to cheap UAVs and asymmetric warfare. Edit: I'm biased because I love the A-10 in vaguely unsettling ways, and they thought the F-35 would replace it's role. Ha. Hav fucked around with this message at 18:15 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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Of course, I forgot to post https://pages.awscloud.com/AWS-Online-Tech-Talks_2020_0322-GAM.html "This tech talk is for game developers wanting to utilize containers to maximize the investment of their compute choice to operate game backends and services. We will cover multiple use cases for when and where to use containers and what the options are to run containers on AWS, including Amazon EC2, Amazon EKS, Amazon Fargate, Amazon ECS. We will focus on game backends, how to create surrounding services to support your game with containers, continuous integration and deployment strategies, additional tooling to help scale an environment, and cost saving strategies."
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Scruffpuff posted:There once was a miserable fraud Holy cow this wins. 
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the best part about this is whatever the gently caress is happening in the last few laggy frames of video
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A strange fellow known as Miku Found himself in a financial stew When the jpegs he'd bought Were worth only naught Now he's waiting for Star Citizer 2
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zxqv8 posted:
"Pledge more, worm"
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Please stop posting pictures of Derek's game. Make a thread about it if you're so interested.
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Hav posted:
I think the F35 mentions are just a subtle way to show it's a troll message. I still have faith in humanity, it seems.
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Any developer posted:He says that even without having inside knowledge of the project it's possible to use Star Citizen as an example for 75% of all reasons why games get delayed People who aren't in a similar sort of production job - this is massively true to me as a developer. Hav posted:it was largely connected with the idea that the thruster layout would result in actual differences in handling, but they abandoned that when it started limiting ships designs. People who don't get development, just try and take a moment, and think what it would take to make this request happen. Right now the ship is basically an outline that is mapped to joystick movement. I mean think about Asteroids from the Atari days - that ship spins around and has inertia. You're just replacing Asteroids with a really shiny JPG and making it go up and down. It's been that simple so far. A breathing rectum walks in and says, let's give the ships physics and make them respond realistically to gear that's installed. And we need this today, and don't spend any money, just magically deliver this tomorrow. The ship doesn't have any actual weight right now, you're just faking it by making it not speed up all at once. This request means a complete redesign of literally everything about everything. The ship was just a JPG before. Now they want to remake the whole thing out of Minecraft blocks which all have physics. And some of those ships cost thousands of dollars and are goddamn complicated so how the hell will you even do this, because the fans are going to expect the ships to look and behave about the same as they did before this conversion. And your boss is a moron who thinks you can just flip one switch and this will instantly work. So you need to slowly explain to him how his request is really loving dumb, and he doesn't know anything, and since he's an insecure rear end in a top hat he might try to fire you because you won't give him what he wants. How long since someone posted "The Expert"? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg Every big new promise they make is like this.
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Dressed in black, wearing a tan, he crobbled together a scam. Despite backers millions now facing to go broke, (NO, the worm was not a joke!) he still doesn't give a drat
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i follow this poo poo now for years, sometimes i could burst into tears, did not pay a dime, not log in one time, what the hell am i doing in here? BumbleOne fucked around with this message at 21:31 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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revwinnebago posted:A breathing rectum walks in and says, let's give the ships physics and make them respond realistically to gear that's installed. And we need this today, and don't spend any money, just magically deliver this tomorrow. Even better, it turns out that they got the initial code from Crytek as part of their contra deal when they were looking for sub-million dollars, when a bunch of idiots including myself pitched in for another Wing Commander game. It was extending that flight model that created the fantastic image of aforementioned rectum commenting that 'it' was 'bullshit'. They could have gotten away with a largely abstracted model based around the thrusters, but real physics and movie physics are largely incompatible. Meanwhile, in the intersection between Pandemics and Theranos; https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2020/03/firm-uses-theranos-patents-to-sue-company-making-coronavirus-test/ Hav fucked around with this message at 21:46 on Mar 17, 2020 |
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Bootcha posted:Welp, Austin's shut down. Well that’s good for another year long delay of SQ42 at least. colonelwest fucked around with this message at 00:18 on Mar 18, 2020 |
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trucutru posted:I still have faith in humanity, it seems. "toilet paper" Neat segue into; "Alien Languages – Do you speak Banu? We will work with real-world linguists to create distinctive and realistic alien languages for Star Citizen’s three biggest alien races, the Vanduul, the Xi’An and the Banu. No universal translators, no garbled animal noises: Star Citizen’s aliens will be speaking their own authentic languages!" - July 13th 2014
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Welp, Austin's shut down. And Bee Cave is inside Travis County, so there's little wiggle room to force Devs to come in and still work through the pandemic.
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Hav posted:
I live near a A-10 base and it is a comfort to know I probably won't hear the BRRRRRRRRRRTTTTTTTTT live.
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Bootcha posted:Welp, Austin's shut down. https://www.axios.com/coronavirus-report-us-uk-strategies-e45bc5d4-d2f1-40e2-825e-429b2b7c1b50.html If US and UK policy mandates telecommuting for non-essential businesses, can virtual meetings take the place of face to face development culture? Probably better suited to this kind of change than are the bars, pubs, movie theaters, etc. Outside estimate of need for these measures to be enforced is 18 months. Can the bear survive?
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