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Squizzle
Apr 24, 2008




first-come first-served, means-tested disaster relief for qualified applicants

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Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


it is absolutely incredible how incompetent the tories are

like everyone expects them to prioritise the economy over public health but only true doom murderheads like us know that they will negligently gently caress both

Agean90
Jun 28, 2008


I would like to thank the people of England for once again making sure that America isnt the dumbest country again 🙏🙏🙏

MikeCrotch
Nov 5, 2011

I AM UNJUSTIFIABLY PROUD OF MY SPAGHETTI BOLOGNESE RECIPE

YES, IT IS AN INCREDIBLY SIMPLE DISH

NO, IT IS NOT NORMAL TO USE A PEPPERAMI INSTEAD OF MINCED MEAT

YES, THERE IS TOO MUCH SALT IN MY RECIPE

NO, I WON'T STOP SHARING IT

more like BOLLOCKnese

XMNN posted:

Ian Hislop is a smug twat and have I got news for you has many questions to answer re: responsibility for bojos rise to power, but his comment on Boris pretty much sums it up


he spent enough time at private school and Oxford that he has the classics references and plummy voice and general bumbling posh boy act down which British people are programmed from birth to conflate with intelligence and ability, but he is fundamentally a stupid man

cf Rees mogg

his sole ambition was to be prime minister and this was his chance to be Churchill, to shut down everything and make difficult decisions to save hundreds of thousands of lives and he just fumbled it

The one thing to remember about Boris is that he is indeed an idiot, but he's also a vengeful and relentless bastard and will stop at nothing to either get his way or punish those he thing has wronged him. There was a WDTATW episode on him where it was mentioned that his acquantances were terrified of speaking up about him because he had ruined people's lives in the past for speaking out against him.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Because I have brain aids I read the UKmt so understand what you mean but you might want to explain that acronym for our similarly brain aids American friends who read this thread

namesake
Jun 19, 2006

"When I was a girl, around 12 or 13, I had a fantasy that I'd grow up to marry Captain Scarlet, but he'd be busy fighting the Mysterons so I'd cuckold him with the sexiest people I could think of - Nigel Mansell, Pat Sharp and Mr. Blobby."

Agean90 posted:

I would like to thank the people of England for once again making sure that America isnt the dumbest country again 🙏🙏🙏

Hey let's not call this before the contest is over. Only over the smoking ruins of both will we be able to say which was the dumbest.

Valko
Sep 18, 2015
Stop arguing about who is dumber when half the population of both countries are basically the people who support The Party from 1984.

I somehow find it ironic that a respiratory disease resuscitated this thread.

Alan_Shore
Dec 2, 2004

Don't blame me, I voted for Corbyn! More like Cor, I bet he'd have dug us out of this mess right quick!

spankmeister
Jun 15, 2008
Probation
Can't post for 18 hours!

Alan_Shore posted:

Don't blame me, I voted for Corbyn! More like Cor, I bet he'd have dug us out of this mess right quick!

More like Cor, me country is in the bin

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


Tbh none of the parties are covering themselves in glory here. Iirc loving Lisa Nandy was the first major Labour figure to go "this is nuts" at the gov response and got told to shut up by the coop faction.
She earnt my 2nd pref at least.

I have quite liked RLBs proposals but tbh it's easy for Labour to chat poo poo from the sidelines and it took them way too long to even do that and they were far too measured.

SNP can absolutely get hosed forever though, nicola just going along with bojo saying gently caress all. Lying about Scottish community testing.

As an aside, how amazingly orwellian and British is it that they've rebranded their pitiful testing efforts that result in nobody being tested and not tracking the virus as "surveillance testing" the only thing the gov does anymore is media management and theyr trying to PR the virus away

Hillary 2024
Nov 13, 2016

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Hillary 2024
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Camrath posted:

My parents are doing exactly that; fleeing to their place in France.
Better hurry.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1240001670077206530?s=20

SelenicMartian
Sep 14, 2013

Sometimes it's not the bomb that's retarded.

Are all English-speaking countries as dumb about the virus?

redleader
Aug 18, 2005

Engage according to operational parameters
they're equally dumb about essentially everything else so i don't know why you'd expect corona-chan to be any different

Heavy_D
Feb 16, 2002

"rararararara" contains the meaning of everything, kept in simple rectangular structures
so how about that Labour leadership race then?

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Starmer has finally realised he needs to criticise the government response

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Nandy's slowly grown on me, I know her politics are melty at best and Blue Labour at worst but she actually seems like she's campaigning to win and shown initiative in having good oppositional responses to the government, which is this race really makes her the outlier.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
She's lied constantly throughout the election and pretended she is a unity candidate despite being Owen Smith's campaign manager in 2016

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

Jose posted:

She's lied constantly throughout the election and pretended she is a unity candidate despite being Owen Smith's campaign manager in 2016

this is prime ministerial material tho

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Jose posted:

She's lied constantly throughout the election and pretended she is a unity candidate despite being Owen Smith's campaign manager in 2016

All true, but she's also the only one in the race who doesn't appear to be in some kind of semi-comatose fugue state, which does have a charm of its own.

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
Based off the 1 brexiter I know well she's the most electable candidate because he thinks she talks a lot of sense

Camrath
Mar 19, 2004

The UKMT Fudge Baron



They made it out Monday night. Now they’re self-quarantining for two weeks to make sure they don’t get blamed if it spreads to the village.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Jose posted:

Based off the 1 brexiter I know well she's the most electable candidate because he thinks she talks a lot of sense

this is why i think starmer is a huge mistake - notwithstanding all the trilateral commission stuff, he's labour's Mr London Remain, and that's going to be toxic with the general electorate for a long while

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


We are required to hate Nandy but love Speccy Wrong Daily.

But I don't really get why and nobody has ever produced any compelling reason other than vague spooky noises about Blue Labour left nationalists which tbh sounds more likely to win than repeating Corbyns playbook but with a different substitute teacher.

She's also the only normal looking person in the race since thornberry dropped.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Communist Thoughts posted:

We are required to hate Nandy but love Speccy Wrong Daily.

But I don't really get why and nobody has ever produced any compelling reason other than vague spooky noises about Blue Labour left nationalists which tbh sounds more likely to win than repeating Corbyns playbook but with a different substitute teacher.

She's also the only normal looking person in the race since thornberry dropped.

nandy's problem is imo her heavy association with the chicken coup, maybe the most inept political maneuver in recent british history

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


V. Illych L. posted:

this is why i think starmer is a huge mistake - notwithstanding all the trilateral commission stuff, he's labour's Mr London Remain, and that's going to be toxic with the general electorate for a long while

Plus he always looks like he's apologising to you for the smell

He's Cummings ideal opponent lol. Probably so is RLB as an even less convincing Corbyn

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


V. Illych L. posted:

nandy's problem is imo her heavy association with the chicken coup, maybe the most inept political maneuver in recent british history

Yeah but it's easy to argue now that they all had a point. They were just all inept due to being British mps

forkboy84
Jun 13, 2012

Corgis love bread. And Puro


Communist Thoughts posted:

Yeah but it's easy to argue now that they all had a point. They were just all inept due to being British mps

No, they had no point except to make it easy to portray Labour as disunited.

Fair enough if you want to vote Nandy, do it, but personally I think left nationalism is not actually good even if it might win. Nationalism is cancerous.

No Dignity
Oct 15, 2007

Oh yeah I've already voted for RLB with no 2nd preference and have zero regrets over that, but her campaign has been a wet fart from start to finish and no one here expects her to win the thing at this point. Nandy's just been the only one in the race to show any game, and it's nice to see one person at least trying to win.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


forkboy84 posted:

No, they had no point except to make it easy to portray Labour as disunited.

Fair enough if you want to vote Nandy, do it, but personally I think left nationalism is not actually good even if it might win. Nationalism is cancerous.

I voted Speccy first.

I just think the left isn't gonna win if we leave patriotism solely the domain of the right. British people are super loving nationalist. The old thing about more Palestinian flags than union Jacks at socialist and labour rallies looks mad to normal people.
The common refrain to the left of "don't talk Britain down" is basically true, it might help to hide our hatred of this putrid shithole.

I'm just not sold it always turns to racism considering the Scottish nationalists are more pro immigrant than any English party. Sinn Fein and Plaid Cymru are better than either of our 3 parties too.

And the many liberatory nationalist movements around the world that had to throw our lovely rear end out their country. Could be helpful to throw Westminsters lovely rear end out of ours.

And frankly I don't think the idea that the government should concern itself with the country it runs is a bad one. Especially considering what the UK has done while meddling in other countries.

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


drat that post was too long for cspam sorry

Just feel like left labour's bizzare obsession with not appealing to people's love of britain coz we might turn into hitler is self defeating and nonsensical. Especially considering the damage the tories are doing to it.

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Communist Thoughts posted:

Yeah but it's easy to argue now that they all had a point. They were just all inept due to being British mps

oh i see you're in a process of kinnockification

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


V. Illych L. posted:

oh i see you're in a process of kinnockification

LOL is that where I become kinnock or where kinnocks loss turns me into a centrist dad?

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

speccy dumb daily is pretty funny, still voted her first mind

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


It's barfsack ocrumbo tier imo

V. Illych L.
Apr 11, 2008

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Communist Thoughts posted:

LOL is that where I become kinnock or where kinnocks loss turns me into a centrist dad?

the former - you're just reminding me a lot of the post-1983 labourites who are completely shell-shocked and start drifting slowly to the right...

Communist Thoughts
Jan 7, 2008

Our war against free speech cannot end until we silence this bronze beast!


V. Illych L. posted:

the former - you're just reminding me a lot of the post-1983 labourites who are completely shell-shocked and start drifting slowly to the right...

Dunno what you mean mate

W-w WE'RE ALRIGHT! WE'RE ALRIGHT!

Facehammer
Mar 11, 2008

Real change will never happen until many more people hate this poo poo heap of a country with the ever-burning passion we do. Don't be tempted to think how to bait the gammon hordes into grudgingly supporting us; think how to turn more people socialist.

ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь

Communist Thoughts posted:

We are required to hate Nandy but love Speccy Wrong Daily.

But I don't really get why and nobody has ever produced any compelling reason other than vague spooky noises about Blue Labour left nationalists which tbh sounds more likely to win than repeating Corbyns playbook but with a different substitute teacher.

She's also the only normal looking person in the race since thornberry dropped.

Blue Labour can get completely hosed

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ContinuityNewTimes
Dec 30, 2010

Я выдуман напрочь
what if we did socialism, but for the volksgemeinschaft community

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